To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

I've heard countless times over the past few months there is something that just isn’t nice about Amber Heard yet many seem to be in agreement that JD was probably abusive. What does it matter if she isn’t a particularly warm person

Understatement of the century

I think this trial will be old news and long forgotten very quickly. Factors such as the low conviction rate, victim self blame, shame and fear of consequences have historically made people far less likely to report abuse. These things existed long before the defamation case and will continue to take their toll long after it.

I’d say you’re the only one making a big deal out of that one comment. Get a grip.

Well what does it matter if she isn’t a particularly warm person

that he is warm and is attractive/charming to many make him less likely to be abusive

no it does not

There were two abusers and two victims in that case.

Physical abuse is not worse than emotional. Please don't let your DD hear you say it was "only emotional"

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I watched the whole trial from start to finish. I don't believe anyone who thinks AH is a victim and JD is an abuser could've possibly watched the trial. The jury made the right decision. I am not a Johnny Depp fan. At the outset of the trial I thought (like many others) that AH was the victim, or it was mutual abuse in a toxic relations, bearing in mind what I knew about the matter but as it progressed and more evidence came to light and certainly once AH took the stand it was clear to me (as well as pretty much everyone who was actually following the proceedings) that AH was 100% the perpetrator and JD the victim. Being a shit husband does not make you an abuser! I have no fucking clue what trial some of you must have been watching
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You don't think people can make their own mind up then? Not everyone sees what you see. Others see things in a whole other light.

Not at all @ bigfootisreal. If you tell me you watched the trial I will surely believe you 🤔

This is what I came on to say.

As long as she doesn't keep pursuing him she is currently threatening to fight the verdict and complaining he is on tiktok

@RomanceOnARooftop @FrecklesMalone I don’t believe JD is necessarily a good person nor was he a good husband. What I believe is that in his relationship with AH he was the victim of her abuse and she the perpetrator who then lied to try and ruin his life. This was proven in court.

There was also the U.K. case where he was found to be abusive. I’ll go with that one.

The UK case did not find him to be abusive. That case was more about the newspapers.

I'm no fan of Depp. IN fact until all this I barely thought about him. I started off assuming as many do, that the woman must be in the right. From the evidence it appears that I was wrong.

That’s a very dishonest representation of the case. He was not on trial, he was not convicted of anything. The trial was about whether the paper was justified in believing what Amber Heard claimed. Given that pieces of her evidence have now been proven to be false no-one should be inferring what you did from it.

The judge ruled that domestic violence had occurred. But everyone wants to ignore that.

@LoadedDice The judge in the UK case was not meant to say that he believed, in his opinion, that abuse had occurred. This went way beyond his duty as the deciding judge. The case also didn’t have Amber heard as a defendant which means she never took the stand (in the same way she did us the USA) and a lot of her evidence wasn’t shown. The same evidence that was totally disapproved in the USA trial. It is a shame that people cannot form their opinions based on facts and evidence and instead want to form them on ignorance.

I can see how it may deter victims from coming forward due to the sheer toxicity AH has received and that many (not all but many) people who tend to lean towards victim blaming now have a poster girl for their misogyny. And can now crow on until the cows come home about how women lie and can be abusive too, yadda yadda.

Any decent individual however will have the processing ability to know that fact and not let it cloud the likelihood that in more cases than not, women don't always lie.

If you let this ONE case and one INDIVIDUAL make you now doubt potential victims then your a bit of a knob.

No, I think the opposite. A victim of domestic abuse won against his abuser. How can that be anything but positive.

I completely agree. I could have written this word for word.

A lot of evidence that was shown in the U.K. case wasn’t shown in US. My opinions are just different to yours, you just don’t like that. He kicked her in the back and cried about it, he defends a child rapist which is just astonishing and he has a history of violent behaviour. He was so high that I’m surprised he remembers anything. He’s scum. That’s my opinion. I’m not going to spend any more of the day discussing this abusive man. My opinion won’t change. I’m sure yours won’t either so pointless continuing.

Why did you assume that the woman must be in the right? That’s pretty weird.

I assumed because it is ingrained into you that you must always believe the woman. Until recently expressing the opinion that might not be the case would have you shot down in flames.