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To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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PetraBP · 09/06/2022 09:23

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

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TiddyTidTwo · 16/06/2022 22:07

Christ @AdamRyan who has said on here he's perfect?

That's ridiculous. Seriously

HRTQueen · 16/06/2022 22:31

AdamRyan · 16/06/2022 22:00

This thing about Johnny being some kind of perfect victim is weird. It's like because the jury didn't believe AH that means Johnny is some kind of Saint.
He clearly is also very messed up and I don't know why there is so much denial. It's like some kind of weird conspiracy theory

It’s very strange it’s become cult like the following JD now has

AdamRyan · 16/06/2022 22:47

TiddyTidTwo · 16/06/2022 22:07

Christ @AdamRyan who has said on here he's perfect?

That's ridiculous. Seriously

Slight hyperbole
But he's clearly violent and yet there are people arguing he isn't. I don't know why they do that. His violent tendencies predate his relationship with AH yet somehow that's being overlooked. It's weird it's being portrayed as victim/abuser when it's obviously more complicated than that

Aspiringmatriarch · 16/06/2022 22:54

I saw somewhere that Amber was three years old the first time Johnny was arrested for assault.

Anyway there's multiple quotes from him over the years saying he likes to solve things with his fists (words to that effect).

TiddyTidTwo · 16/06/2022 23:01

"Slight hyperbole"

I think we all do that 😂

No he's definitely thrown, trashed stuff, has serious addiction issues. I believe when it was reported he went for a photographer trying to photograph Vanessa whilst pregnant, he very likely did.

There's not many men (or women) in their lives that haven't been involved in physical altercation, thrown stuff or just been downright horrible.

HRTQueen · 16/06/2022 23:44

I have felt like I hated my ex at times

but never had such sexually sadistic violent fantasies

and neither have I thrown around bottles and acted as aggressively as in the video but one of my ex’s has

or smashed up hotels or any room

but then I’m not an aggressive or violent person o can feel very angry at times and even if I fleetingly want to throw the tv across the room I don’t I control myself

Onthedunes · 17/06/2022 00:48

I think one of Amber's mistakes was trying to act during her testimony, she had propably been coached that much she didn't know whether she was coming or going.

She came across very badly.

Her testimony during the UK trial was much more natural, obviously with it not being in court but even so her nonchalance in that interview came across as indifferent and blase, more akin to a hairdressing appointment rather than a sworn testament to naming her wife beating husband.

Onthedunes · 17/06/2022 01:05

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 15/06/2022 17:02

Yeah

i think at this point I’m out…

im sure ill keep reading though 😀

I always love an an announcement.

Hope you didn't inform TMZ first 😉

madasawethen · 17/06/2022 06:32

The entire trial was a circus. Depp's attorneys would want the entire thing publicized as Depp is a popular charismatic actor.

The difference between the Uk trial and the US is mostly that a judge ruled the case in the Uk and a jury of 7 regular people made the ruling in the US case.

The jury wasn't sequestered so they were free to surf the web and read all the trial gossip. Juries are biased, incompetent, and unpredictable.
There was no way Depp would ever lose a jury trial in the US.

FrippEnos · 17/06/2022 06:51

madasawethen

Another difference is the amount of "evidence" in the US trial.

mynamesnotMa · 17/06/2022 07:15

Snaketime. Please provide evidence of this.

I think the way she was treated from the get go was anything but fair. All the armchair experts who think they know him. The way SM ridiculed her was sickening. The lawyers admitted they use an abusive tactic to discredit her.

My answer is to the op I don't need ridiculous insults by randoms who worship him.

buttersbottom · 17/06/2022 07:53

Aspiringmatriarch · Yesterday 20:26

Amber wrote that she became a representative of domestic abuse. I can't find anywhere she describes herself as a 'poor, innocent victim' and she's said they were both awful to each other at times.

Yes, she's just added the 'both awful to each other at times' bit, no doubt as a reaction to Johnny's lawyers saying she took no responsibility for anything. Yet when she's questioned about every specific allegation against her she denies everything.

No, she didn't use those specific words, 'poor, innocent victim' but that is certainly what she implied. If she had been honest and it was mutual abuse (the best case scenario for her side) then she should have said that, that they were awful to each other. But she didn't. She just concentrated on making herself out to be a victim, largely or entirely based on lies to get revenge.

But even if it's true that she's making the whole thing up, that's supposed to be worse (more worthy of 'loathing') than Polanski and Brown?

I'd be happy if Polanski and Brown got more loathing but let's not pretend what she did was some small thing not worthy of hatred. She deliberately set out to destroy a man, to tarnish is reputation, to make him out to be a wife beater and rapist, simply out of spite. She did damage his reputation and career for the six years and he spoke of it ruining everything in life for him. She did that and she still is doing it now, even though no-one outside of a few feminists and a few lousy MSM types is daft enough to believe her. She also did it while piggy backing onto a worthwhile movement, me too, damaging that and the fight of real victims of domestic violence to get justice.

The woman is utter garbage and deserves the hatred she's getting.

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/06/2022 08:11

So you're using her denials as evidence she doesn't take responsibility? She has stated in multiple ways that she's done and said things she isn't proud of. You seem to want her to take responsibility for everything else as well.

And no, she hasn't tried to act the poor innocent victim. She's always been quite outspoken and spiky. This was the joint statement they released during the divorce:

"Our relationship was intensely passionate and at times volatile, but always bound by love. Neither party has made false accusations for financial gain. There was never any intent of physical or emotional harm."

Your view of her motives and behaviour is very extreme and obviously I don't share it, nor do I think anyone deserves the treatment she has received.

AdamRyan · 17/06/2022 08:40

TiddyTidTwo · 16/06/2022 23:01

"Slight hyperbole"

I think we all do that 😂

No he's definitely thrown, trashed stuff, has serious addiction issues. I believe when it was reported he went for a photographer trying to photograph Vanessa whilst pregnant, he very likely did.

There's not many men (or women) in their lives that haven't been involved in physical altercation, thrown stuff or just been downright horrible.

That may be true but most people aren't arrested multiple times for aggressive behaviour.
What he's been arrested will be the tip of the iceberg.

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/06/2022 09:50

That may be true but most people aren't arrested multiple times for aggressive behaviour. What he's been arrested will be the tip of the iceberg.

This. I posted a link (to a tiktok video - sorry!) on the other thread and if there's any truth in it, it's pretty shocking. I can't verify who the people are so obviously take with a pinch of salt, but they say that basically anyone willing to speak out has been paid off or intimidated.

BlanketsBanned · 17/06/2022 10:19

So now its being reported that she has handed over her confidential medical files to the interviewer, files that the trial Judge has already dismissed as hearsay. I thought she wanted to move on with her life, is she deliberately trying to instigate another defamation trail.

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:25

This is the full vid from the TikTok @Aspiringmatriarch

Woah there's some accusations in there 😮
tv.gab.com/channel/aaronmckinney/view/addressing-paul-barresi-with-richie-albertini-62aa4a63a4432ab5c247b50f

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:27

@BlanketsBanned how can medical records be hearsay? I'd guess they're the therapist ones and the nose surgeon who she saw 2 years after the divorce.

BlanketsBanned · 17/06/2022 10:37

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:27

@BlanketsBanned how can medical records be hearsay? I'd guess they're the therapist ones and the nose surgeon who she saw 2 years after the divorce.

Yes, you're right therapists notes from 2011. No mention of the nose surgeon.

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:45

Yes, therapist notes are classed as hearsay. She won't get anywhere with those.

AdamRyan · 17/06/2022 10:45

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:25

This is the full vid from the TikTok @Aspiringmatriarch

Woah there's some accusations in there 😮
tv.gab.com/channel/aaronmckinney/view/addressing-paul-barresi-with-richie-albertini-62aa4a63a4432ab5c247b50f

Wow. Never heard of that Paul Baresi guy. Really hard to know what to make of that.

AdamRyan · 17/06/2022 10:48

I just googled him being very pro depp despite working for Amber's team. Its very murky and strange.

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 10:54

@AdamRyan
Getting into the depths of Hollywood....eww

I'm going down another rabbit hole, find out who these guys on the video are!

TiddyTidTwo · 17/06/2022 11:06

Ok guy in the middle is Richard Lambertini. Interesting posts!

gab.com/RJA90211/posts/106982186161238726

Yeah, I'm not surprised AH didn't call him as a witness.

AdamRyan · 17/06/2022 11:10

www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/single-post/2019/12/20/the-bagman

Working both sides of the street proved highly lucrative for Barresi. By first spreading ugly rumors about Jackson and then casting doubt on them, he pocketed nearly $60,000. He got a sweet bonus, too: revenge on two people who’d dissed him.

Interesting prize winning article about Barresisi, unrelated to JD/AH

I'm not sure i will be able to look at Eddie Murphy the same way though

In 1999, “The Bagman” won the runner-up prize for “Best Hard News Story” at the American Society of Journalists and Authors/Los Angeles Press Club Awards. Originally published in New Times LA April 26, 2001. By Mark Ebner, Jack Cheevers. Additional reporting, Johnny Wendell

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