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To feel sad for Prince Harry

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OldManRivers · 06/06/2022 12:07

Have been looking at the photos today of Harry in the car being driven from the airport in America back to his home. He looks so sad. It must be very difficult for him to attend a huge family occasion like that with his role drastically changed, and to see all of his family but now he's on the sidelines popping in so very sporadically.

Also I can't help but think he must feel sad to think his children won't grow up around their cousins, and extended family. Meghan doesn't have any family except her mother so they don't have any in America either.

Originally he and Meghan wanted to carry on being part of the royal machine and do appearances etc but also have some independence so it's not as though this life was their original plan, where it seems like they're sidelined and alienated. AIBU to think regardless of what's gone on it must be very hard for him to be in another country, away from his ailing grandmother who he is very close to, and feel like a bit of an outcast?

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saddowizca · 06/06/2022 18:22

I don't think he is sad, I think he has a very nice new life with a woman he loves and two little kids. He is free of all of that intrusion now - within reason - and can get on with his own life.
He has enough money to jet to and fro across the world to visit his family as the mood takes him. I think he'll be fine.

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2022 18:24

The RF are the one who run to the press at every opportunity, not Harry and Meghan

Harry and Meghan run to Omid Scobie, who then shoots his mouth off. Same difference.

the80sweregreat · 06/06/2022 18:27

On a more lighthearted note , Fiona Bruce outside number ten on the bbc 6 o clock news looks like she will break into song with that head piece she has on ! It's very Britney Spears

the80sweregreat · 06/06/2022 18:27

Wrong thread ! Sorry

Maireas · 06/06/2022 18:29

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JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:29

wow, that's a very nasty and rather personal jab at another poster.

The irony of you saying that on a thread where another poster just had a post deleted for calling me a racial slur. Funny how no one objected to that "nasty personal jab" isn't it?

If someone chooses to reveal personal information on a notoriously harsh anonymous message board (and disclosing that you keep being dumped and ghosted by friends is pretty personal) then it's reasonable for people to question why their friendships keep ending, and and whether there might be factors beyond ignorant sweeping generalisations about an entire country.

Meghan has had the same close group of friends for decades. Clearly the issue is not with Meghan, or with Americans in general (or California in particular).

queenofarles · 06/06/2022 18:30

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IcedPurple · 06/06/2022 18:31

"Wrong as always."

Aside from being incredibly rude, you haven't responded to my factual corrections of your wrong statements above.

"William pursued creating a documentary series about mental health for years, had meetings to pitch it to various networks including Netflix, and it was rejected. The BBC ended up greenlighting William's documentary. William is also credited as producer on a documentary about Earthshot."

I'm not sure if all this is true, or Sussex Squad fan fic.

But the fact remains that William has no need to 'make content' or pursue commercial projects. Harry does. And to do so, he has to please his paymasters.

Why are you comparing him to William? He and his brother are on completely different paths now. Why not compare him to other wannabe NF producers?

"Just because you find inspirational disabled athletes boring and are only interested in celebrity gossip, doesn't mean nobody is interested in sport."

Again, astonishingly rude on behalf of people who don't know you exist and wouldn't care if they did.

Look at the documentaries on NF that have got the most viewing figures. They're not wholesome programmes about disabled athletes. That's simply not the sort of thing that draws in large audiences, and at the end of the day that is what NF want.

And has a date been announced for this supposed documentary? It was announced well over a year ago and the games have been and gone.

Maireas · 06/06/2022 18:33

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I'm sorry, I've no idea why the images repeated like that!

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:33

As a disabled athlete myself I find your comments about disabled athletes extremely rude and distasteful, IcedPurple

Boxowine · 06/06/2022 18:34

I think the brooch incident was very much intentional. I also think that Meghan received a great deal of racist treatment by the press and the public. I think that some of it was very threatening in nature. What Meghan supporters don't seem to get is that it is possible to have sympathy for her having experienced that and to support her desire to step away from the firm while at the same time hold her accountable for her interpersonal relationship failures with her family. We can also can express disdain for the naked greed driving the commercial enterprises they have engaged in.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:35

Oh and one of my closest friends produced a documentary for Netflix - a heartwarming documentary about a camp for disabled children.

It was nominated for an Oscar.

queenofarles · 06/06/2022 18:38

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IcedPurple · 06/06/2022 18:40

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The only thing that surprises me is the absence of screenshots from Twitter posted as 'evidence'.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:40

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the80sweregreat · 06/06/2022 18:44

The difference between William making a documentary and Harry making one is money.
Harry needs the work and to be relevant and has contracts to honor with Netflix etc. William hasn't. They are on different paths. Harry 's one is much harder to achieve too especially as he had never been privy to this world before and how cut throat it is and probably this may well be a bit of a shock to him I would imagine. Much Different to his old life anyway.
I've read that the book is going to be available at the end of the year , but this was the mail so who knows?

Boxowine · 06/06/2022 18:52

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/06/2022 18:58

the80sweregreat I believe it was Penguin Random House themselves who originally said they planned to publish Harry's memoirs at the end of 2022.
However there don't seem to have been any recent updates, so it's hard to know what's happening

WibblyWobblyJane · 06/06/2022 19:03

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:15

Harry and Meghan did one single interview. The royal family have been leaking private and nasty stories about them for years, including planting a spy in their own household, and making up lies about them to the press.

The RF are the one who run to the press at every opportunity, not Harry and Meghan.

The RF are the ones who can't be trusted as they leak everything to the press, not Harry and Meghan.

And Thomas Markle is the one who ghosted Meghan, not the other way round. His behaviour has been incredibly abusive and stalkery (not just explicitly threatening his daughter, but turning up on his ex-wife's driveway with a camera crew, just sheer stalker behaviour). Stop acting like she cut him off because he cooperated with the press once.

Well no, you couldn't. William doesn't 'make TV content' for starters. He has appeared in some programming, but he doesn't 'make content'. He doesn't have to, as he has no need to pursue commercial projects.

Wrong as always.

William pursued creating a documentary series about mental health for years, had meetings to pitch it to various networks including Netflix, and it was rejected. The BBC ended up greenlighting William's documentary. William is also credited as producer on a documentary about Earthshot.

frankly I don't see a lot of interest in a documentary just about the athletes.
Just because you find inspirational disabled athletes boring and are only interested in celebrity gossip, doesn't mean nobody is interested in sport.

It seems like you have some info not publicly available?

badhappening · 06/06/2022 19:06

He wasn't thinking about his poor grandmother and his grandfather when he was on his death-bed when he did the Oprah Winfrey show.

He's made his bed and now he must lie in it.

He's alienated his innocent children too. Silly silly boy.

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 06/06/2022 19:27

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thebellagio · 06/06/2022 19:44

I’d have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Harry met up with Mike Tindall.

I reckon it was something along the lines of “Haz mate , you’ve really landed yourself in it this time haven’t you? If you get the pints in, we’ll forgive you”

WibblyWobblyJane · 06/06/2022 19:45

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 18:35

Oh and one of my closest friends produced a documentary for Netflix - a heartwarming documentary about a camp for disabled children.

It was nominated for an Oscar.

The one by President and Mrs. Obama?

isadoradancing123 · 06/06/2022 19:53

He whinged non stop about his life here, he wanted out so now he has what he wanted, he may have some regrets now but thats just tough he should have thought of that before he went on american t v

luckylavender · 06/06/2022 20:17

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/06/2022 12:20

I'm a republican and it's very rare I have a supportive sentiment toward any one of these over-privileged, unelected people.

But I thought the booing of that couple - when presumably invited there by his grandmother who's event it was, after all - was disgusting behaviour and showed this country up in a very poor light. They are not unaware of the bias against them and showed a great deal of courage, grace and stoicism in the face of such palpable, open hostility. As for their own family, the only ones behaving with any kind of grace or humility were Zara and, funnily enough, the York sisters.

And if they did shoot off home early after such an antagonistic reception, it's not to be wondered at. I can't imagine for one moment how that might have felt. And then people wonder why they keep their children under wraps and don't want to come back here. I was surprised to see Markle on UK soil at any point after she originally left: she'd have been well within her rights never to return to this country no matter how many bridges were tentatively rebuilt.

I doubt she will again, and I wouldn't blame her in the slightest. I don't doubt she and Harry did have some legitimate complaints about the behaviour of that family - the wearing of a racist brooch in her presence and a likely raft of other things, it's not as though they don't have a well-documented past form.

The whole thing leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.

Presumably they factored all this in when they gave the Oprah interview and dropped their truth bombs? And allow a spokesman to constantly churn out stuff on their scoping? Agree to write a biography? Na, I have zero sympathy.

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