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to hope that this is BJ's life from now on

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GreenLunchBox · 05/06/2022 19:32

This was last night as he arrived for the concert twitter.com/allymc29/status/1533205190404460556?t=VYkv1kg6OGBFfrHkzSklGA&s=19

Grin
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Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:31

@pigsDOfly i don’t think he’s humiliated because he’s realised he’s a terrible person and possibly the worst PM we’ve ever witnessed, I think he’s humiliated because a lot of people he considers beneath him and frankly stupid are making it increasingly difficult to garner sympathy and support from those he does have an iota of respect/use for.

He’s not particularly affected by the crowds in front of him - he can brazen that out - but his mind will be working overtime on how to spin this to team ‘big dog’. His humiliation lies in losing colleagues and whatever facade of credibility he’s ever had, not the public per se.

His humiliation lies in having virtually no credible profile when he leaves office to make a living off which has been his aim all along. He wants to be Winston Churchill and remembered in history as some sort of hero. Currently that’s looking increasingly unlikely.

Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:34

Incywincyspi · 05/06/2022 20:21

The man is a lying sociopath I honestly don’t think people booing him will bother him even slightly. He probably just thinks they are bad mannered, Ill bred ruffians

Oh he absolutely thinks he’s the ‘victim’ in all this, he has done since partygate erupted. He’s offended to even be looked at never mind scrutinised.

I do wonder how long Carrie will be prepared to be wheeled out and booed at though.

ThreeonaHill · 05/06/2022 20:38

Have other PMs been booed. I don't remember it, they seem to go one way or another before it comes to that, but maybe I just don't remember .

I do think it will bother all tories that union flag wavers are booing him, not because they care what people think, but because they know they need those people's votes.

GreenLunchBox · 05/06/2022 20:40

Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:31

@pigsDOfly i don’t think he’s humiliated because he’s realised he’s a terrible person and possibly the worst PM we’ve ever witnessed, I think he’s humiliated because a lot of people he considers beneath him and frankly stupid are making it increasingly difficult to garner sympathy and support from those he does have an iota of respect/use for.

He’s not particularly affected by the crowds in front of him - he can brazen that out - but his mind will be working overtime on how to spin this to team ‘big dog’. His humiliation lies in losing colleagues and whatever facade of credibility he’s ever had, not the public per se.

His humiliation lies in having virtually no credible profile when he leaves office to make a living off which has been his aim all along. He wants to be Winston Churchill and remembered in history as some sort of hero. Currently that’s looking increasingly unlikely.

I think he'll make more money than he ever dreamt of once he leaves office.

He'll go to the states and they'll lap him up over there. Won't matter how much he fucks this place up.

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LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

Fenella123 · 05/06/2022 20:42

Presumably the No 10 crowd thought, "we're working really hard during this pandemic, we need the odd little party/gathering here and there to stay sane"

But, here's the thing.

Decent people would have thought,

"So many people must be in just the same position or worse. Let's put effort into tweaking the regulations, so that everyone can safely get a little social contact, see their sick relatives and so on"

Did they? Did they @#£& !!

Why did they not do this? Did they think they were different and special and that nobody else was stressed? They KNEW this was not true, the awful experiences of medical staff was common knowledge. Did they think it couldn't be done? The impossible was being done daily, and the idea of pilot projects is NOT NEW.

I just can't find a plausible excuse for how they behaved. And that is why we're not letting this drop. Public shaming is 100% appropriate.

GreenLunchBox · 05/06/2022 20:42

ThreeonaHill · 05/06/2022 20:38

Have other PMs been booed. I don't remember it, they seem to go one way or another before it comes to that, but maybe I just don't remember .

I do think it will bother all tories that union flag wavers are booing him, not because they care what people think, but because they know they need those people's votes.

I can't remember either but I'm wondering if I've just never cared enough until now. Surely Thatcher was booed? Maybe not. Can anyone shine any light?

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ClaudiusTheGod · 05/06/2022 20:49

LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

No, you’re wrong. It’s not childish. It’s the behaviour of adults in a crowd who are expressing their disapproval in an extremely simple, spontaneous and civilised way. No swearing, no profanity, no violence. Sends the message clearly and safely.

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:51

I agree @ClaudiusTheGod

Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:54

He'll go to the states and they'll lap him up over there. Won't matter how much he fucks this place up.

Quite possibly. I’m not entirely sure he could pull it off though, the fondness for a bumbling posh persona is pretty uniquely british. I don’t know if he’s slick enough to add enough substance to hold an American audience.

Farage hasn’t done particularly well over there as far as I know. He only got an ‘in’ through trump and didn’t seem particularly comfortable towing that line.

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 05/06/2022 20:55

People booed and went on to egg Maggies statue.
Iirc she was also booed back when she was in power by miners and others when she started selling various things off to the private sector.

BJ is made of Teflon. Even before he was mayor of London he was a disgrace. After that we didn’t want him and there was loads of people saying don’t vote for the lying oaf.

Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:57

LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

You think a crowd of people should organise a spokesperson to approach their target and put forward a list of reasoned bullet points on why they’re displeased with their presence?

I’m willing to bet that 90% of the booers could articulate their feelings about Boris Johnson if asked directly but in a crowd I think booing is pretty succinct don’t you?

ChandlersDad · 05/06/2022 20:59

Once a Tory has lost the flag shaggers I would say they’re pretty done for.

GreenLunchBox · 05/06/2022 21:10

Cornettoninja · 05/06/2022 20:57

You think a crowd of people should organise a spokesperson to approach their target and put forward a list of reasoned bullet points on why they’re displeased with their presence?

I’m willing to bet that 90% of the booers could articulate their feelings about Boris Johnson if asked directly but in a crowd I think booing is pretty succinct don’t you?

I'd bet my last dollar that this person actually approved of the booing of the taking a knee Wink

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Happygirl79 · 05/06/2022 21:18

I blame the tory MPs for not having a pair between them. They are shielding this piece of s...

ChompChamp · 05/06/2022 21:19

LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

As appalling as I think anyone booing taking-the-knee is, it’s usually English fans booing their own players for doing so, with the backing of Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and alike.

Makes the booing of Johnson quite poetic.

GreenLunchBox · 05/06/2022 21:24

ChompChamp · 05/06/2022 21:19

As appalling as I think anyone booing taking-the-knee is, it’s usually English fans booing their own players for doing so, with the backing of Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and alike.

Makes the booing of Johnson quite poetic.

Exactly. So the Tories would be hypocritical (for once🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) to protest against Bozo being booed.

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Changingdirections · 05/06/2022 21:26

Windbeneathmybingowings · 05/06/2022 19:59

Nothing touches him, he has the skin of a rhino. I hope he slips over in public.

This has really tickled me😂i also hope there's a banana skin somewhere with his name on

SisterAgatha · 05/06/2022 21:29

I think he knows deep down it will eventually escalate to eggs and maccies banana milkshakes.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 05/06/2022 21:33

LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

This might be a valid argument if we didn't have a system where the general public don't actually have mechanisms to challenge a PM whose party won't remove him. There genuinely aren't opportunities for booers to put their point of view forward, in a way that isn't simply ignored and brushed off. We're simply told that he's apologised and to move on. So people use the mechanisms available within our system, in the absence of alternatives.

Roussette · 05/06/2022 21:35

LivingOnAnIsland · 05/06/2022 20:41

i don't think booing is ever a good way to make a point - whether it be at Boris or at Prince Harry or the England match yesterday (if you didn't watch it, Hungarian children at the England Hungary match were booing as the England players took the knee). I think booing belittles the booer, and highlights the fact that they are unable to put their point of view forward in a rational manner. Childish behaviour.

How are people supposed to put their point across when he is surrounded by sycophants and any hi vis jacket visits are with his fanbase? He goes off to a chutney factory, or a honey bottling plant and he has no opposition and no chance of any of the public making their feelings known. Do let me how 'we put our point of view forward in a rational manner'?
I write to my 1922 committee Tory MP. Last three emails he has totally ignored.

Booing is the only option. He saw it, he heard it, the great british public from all walks of life booed him. Great.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 05/06/2022 21:37

How are people supposed to put their point across when he is surrounded by sycophants and any hi vis jacket visits are with his fanbase?

I rather think the answer is that we're not...

Romeoalpha · 05/06/2022 21:42

I hope he clings on as prime minister as long as possible. Then the Tories will definitely lose the next election.

Westfacing · 05/06/2022 21:45

Johnson being booed spontaneously by patriotic monarchists at St Paul's must have come as a bit of a shock - it wasn't a football match or a picket line.

Westfacing · 05/06/2022 21:49

Romeoalpha · 05/06/2022 21:42

I hope he clings on as prime minister as long as possible. Then the Tories will definitely lose the next election.

Yes it's a dilemma isn't it - I'd like to see him trounced and be forced out but he serves a purpose if he survives!

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