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Why do you love The Royal Family?

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pedropony76 · 05/06/2022 18:39

I previously posted this on The Royal Family board but only received one response so wanted to post here for traffic.

For those that love The Queen & The Royal Family, can you actually explain why?

I often see MNetters saying ‘Oh I love The Queen, I love this member and that member’ but no one ever says why. I came across the video of Stacey Solomon saying she doesn’t get why the country is so obsessed with this family as it could be any one of us born into royalty and I totally agree.

For me, when I think of The Royal Family, I instantly think of colonialism and how many of the jewels on the Queen’s crown has been stolen from different countries. I understand not everyone thinks like this but why do some love the members of this establishment as if they’ve done anything to better your life? I’d love to hear people’s views. I’ve tried to have this conversation in real life but everyone I know couldn’t care less about The Royal Family so I’m none the wiser.

Here’s the Stacey Solomon clip for any who haven’t seen it before

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/06/2022 20:47

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Sums up my thoughts on SS. She's pretty pointless in my eyes 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sparklingbrook · 05/06/2022 20:52

Honestly I never really think about them (except for threads on MN). BUT they've given me a bit of a laugh this weekend. Two threads on here which were hilarious while watching the concert and pageant and I've eaten a cream tea which is a rarity. Grin

When the Queen dies I'll probably have a bit of time off MN because it will be chaos on here. People falling over themselves to say how much they don't care etc...

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:53

When the Queen dies I'll probably have a bit of time off MN because it will be chaos on here.

It will be chaos!

jimboandthejetset · 05/06/2022 20:54

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:45

As an aside who on earth is Stacey Solomon?

Here you go. She's a TV personality. A presenter, which as far as I'm aware is a perfectly acceptable job. She works, she gets paid.
But she's been slagged off on this thread countless times for daring to point out what a lot of ie think is the bleeding obvious.
Thankfully some people understand where she's coming from.

metro.co.uk/2022/06/03/stacey-solomon-praised-for-resurfaced-comments-on-royal-family-16763768/

pedropony76 · 05/06/2022 20:56

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@Notaneffingcockerspaniel what are you actually talking about? Where did I say I get my knowledge from Stacey Solomon? I said I came across this clip (which is from 4 years ago) and it summed up my thoughts towards TRF. I don’t get the obsession or why people love them and I’ve come here to ask why.

You speak of ‘thousand years of historical development’ as if that’s something to be proud of but this is literally a country built on colonialism

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the80sweregreat · 05/06/2022 20:57

Stacey Solomon is entitled to her opinion
My son and his friends feel the same way too.

Sparklingbrook · 05/06/2022 20:57

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:53

When the Queen dies I'll probably have a bit of time off MN because it will be chaos on here.

It will be chaos!

There will be 50 threads all trying to be the first to announce it for a start. Hmm

LondonWolf · 05/06/2022 20:59

UrsulaPandress · 05/06/2022 18:50

I haven’t watched your clip as I couldn’t give a rats arse what she thinks.

I don’t ‘love’ the Royal Family. I love history and continuity. Sir Keir Starmer wrote a great piece in the Telegraph the other day which perfectly encapsulated my feelings.

HTH

goady much?

This a good explanation for me also.

Also couldn't be less interested in what SS thinks if my life depended on it.

10yearoldwisdom · 05/06/2022 21:02

I disagree with the concept of monarchy and aristocracy. It rewards and protects those of us with the greediest and most cut throat ancestors, rather than those of us who work the hardest or provide the most key functions of society.

However.

I have grown to respect and be grateful for the Queen. She was an amazing role model and leader during the pandemic. The pictures of her alone at Prince Phillips funeral made me cry and admire her more. Comparing her leadership with the government, and Boris, in particular is a stark and depressing thing to do. She also reminds me of my Grandma who died recently which gives me a real soft spot for her. I’ll be genuinely sad when she dies.

I think Harry and William speaking out about their loss and the impact on their mental health has also been helpful.

Prince Andrew should be cut off and cast out. Dreadful man.

I don’t think public money should be spent on propping the institution up and I am all for a massive redistribution of wealth. The gaping chasm between rich and poor at the moment is shameful.

restedbutexhausted · 05/06/2022 21:02

Funny how people are slating the way SS accumulates her wealth.

So how did the Queen accumulate hers, hmm?

Hmm
NippyWoowoo · 05/06/2022 21:06

Here you go. She's a TV personality. A presenter, which as far as I'm aware is a perfectly acceptable job. She works, she gets paid. But she's been slagged off on this thread countless times for daring to point out what a lot of ie think is the bleeding obvious. Thankfully some people understand where she's coming from.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/06/03/stacey-solomon-praised-for-resurfaced-comments-on-royal-family-16763768/

Exactly. Snobbery prevails. It's a perfectly reasonable sentiment, one felt by many, whoever is making it.

NippyWoowoo · 05/06/2022 21:07

restedbutexhausted · 05/06/2022 21:02

Funny how people are slating the way SS accumulates her wealth.

So how did the Queen accumulate hers, hmm?

Hmm

The irony 😂

kagerou · 05/06/2022 21:08

Topgub · 05/06/2022 18:57

I dont.

I dont understand why anyone does.

They've done nothing to deserve their wealth or privilege

I resent having to pay for them

Exactly the same here

Sparklingbrook · 05/06/2022 21:08

I don't know why everyone is so bothered about what SS thinks, she's on a lunchtime chat show (which nobody on MN confesses to watch) where the panel chat and give their opinions, so she gave hers...

pedropony76 · 05/06/2022 21:10

I know I must sound like I’m being purposely obtuse here and I promise I’m not.

But I really don’t understand this The pictures of her alone at Prince Phillips funeral made me cry and admire her more
The Queen is a regular human like you and me. She’s not a God. Just a human who was randomly born into this life. What is there to cry about and admire? I seriously just don’t get it.

Tbh I’ve accepted that I’ll never really understand why people are so moved by The Queen/TRF or are so invested in them because I just see them as regular people. I don’t look at them as kind/generous people or people who represent anything. I just look at them as people who do a specific type of job and nothing more than that really. Thank you for all of the comments as it’s definitely giving me a deeper understanding of what others think

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Overthewine · 05/06/2022 21:21

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10yearoldwisdom · 05/06/2022 21:02

I disagree with the concept of monarchy and aristocracy. It rewards and protects those of us with the greediest and most cut throat ancestors, rather than those of us who work the hardest or provide the most key functions of society.

However.

I have grown to respect and be grateful for the Queen. She was an amazing role model and leader during the pandemic. The pictures of her alone at Prince Phillips funeral made me cry and admire her more. Comparing her leadership with the government, and Boris, in particular is a stark and depressing thing to do. She also reminds me of my Grandma who died recently which gives me a real soft spot for her. I’ll be genuinely sad when she dies.

I think Harry and William speaking out about their loss and the impact on their mental health has also been helpful.

Prince Andrew should be cut off and cast out. Dreadful man.

I don’t think public money should be spent on propping the institution up and I am all for a massive redistribution of wealth. The gaping chasm between rich and poor at the moment is shameful.

With regards to the redistribution of wealth, let's say everyone gets a set amout, how long before we are at similar levels again, as some.will spend, some save, some invest and rebuild wealth, then what ? Keep redistributing ?

RepublicOfNarnia · 05/06/2022 21:31

Will her death or funeral be a public holiday? Or even Charles' coronation be a public holiday?

Florenz · 05/06/2022 21:34

How much money do we pay to politicians and in return we get? And people want to replace the Queen with yet another politician?

jimboandthejetset · 05/06/2022 21:34

@Overthewine well wasn't that a lovely way to describe some of the British population? Do you honestly think it's just "thugs who watch daytime TV" who don't understand the point of the monarchy? Is just not getting it an education thing?
I'm highly educated, I don't watch daytime TV, and I certainly don't understand the adulation they get.
But on the other hand, if no one cares what she says, why has she been slated for it?
As someone else has pointed out, there is an irony to people talking about SS earning her money as someone who started in reality TV when the RF and the queen are the biggest and by far the richest reality TV stars out there...

StoneofDestiny · 05/06/2022 21:58

I don't love the Queen or her family. The whole institution of monarchy is an affront to democracy.
Chronic injustice having a family elevated above all others, destined to live in extraordinary privilege with jobs guaranteed for life. Appalling, that they have abundance of palaces, most lying empty for most of the year, when so many have no roof over their head.
As for the Queen being a model of duty, service and moral values etc etc. Not a bit of it. She had to be forced to pay taxes. Forced!
We have to pay to keep her family in the manner they expect, but she never wanted to contribute to societies essentials without being made to.
She tolerated her racist, misogynistic arrogant husband and equally openly supports her son who has just paid £12 million to shut down a case of child abuse! Flaunted her support for all to see.
As for hard working - gawd help us if that's the definition of hard work. No serious hard graft, stress by over demands in your time, no threat of redundancy, no threat of relocation or wage cut. In fact, no worry about childcare, feeding your children, educating them or their future employment. No worry about housekeeping, heating costs, clothing budget, cleaning, transport or home security. All taken care of.

Romeoalpha · 05/06/2022 22:00

I don’t ‘love’ the Royal family. However, I think we are better off keeping them, at least for now, for the following reasons:

  • Democracy is imperfect. I support it, but like capitalism it has its downsides - you know what they say about the people who pursue power being the least suitable to wield it? Just look at the bunch of tossers and chancers we have chosen for ourselves recently. At least the royals give us something better to aspire to.

  • And yes, I know historically they are a dubious lot, and that the institution can be seen to represent the class system and inequality. But we can’t change the past sadly, and in the here and now I think they do rather a good job of raising awareness of important causes and serving the public.

  • And YES, I know they are supported by taxpayers money. But think about the money we send off to google, facebook, amazon, etc every day - disgustingly rich corporations who avoid paying taxes and who co tribute little to nothing to the culture and success of our nation. I can’t get that exercised about some of my taxes going to the royal family, but the amount I end up unwillingly giving to monopolistic corporations makes me feel ill.

*Finally, I think they are an important part of our national identity and reminder of our history. I definitely think there is work to be done to modernise the monarchy, a bit of ‘rebranding’ is you like to move away from associations of empire etc. But we shouldn’t ‘cancel’ history we should remember and learn from it. Alongside the transient short-termist world of politics I think keeping in touch with the long view is v.important.

FoiledByTheInsect · 05/06/2022 22:01

Florenz · 05/06/2022 21:34

How much money do we pay to politicians and in return we get? And people want to replace the Queen with yet another politician?

The concept of an impartial referee-type president, Ireland or Italy style, really isn't rocket science nor is it that hard to implement. They step in to uphold the constitution if necessary. The advantage of having a constitution is that a country actually knows what it stands for so has a chance - in theory if not always in practice - of upholding those values.

Unlike the UK which has no clue about what it stands for except what the BBC and the RF propaganda machine tell it to stand for.

BBC "Look, plebs, 70 years of devoted service"

Plebs "Ooh doesn't she look good for her age oh yes we must be such a strong and stable democracy"

FoiledByTheInsect · 05/06/2022 22:06

Romeoalpha Seriously. National identity??? I am absolutely ashamed to be British and automatically associated with those people and a country too backwards to even think it's necessary to update its political system.

MasterBeth · 05/06/2022 22:06

I love Queen Stacey.