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Why do you love The Royal Family?

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pedropony76 · 05/06/2022 18:39

I previously posted this on The Royal Family board but only received one response so wanted to post here for traffic.

For those that love The Queen & The Royal Family, can you actually explain why?

I often see MNetters saying ‘Oh I love The Queen, I love this member and that member’ but no one ever says why. I came across the video of Stacey Solomon saying she doesn’t get why the country is so obsessed with this family as it could be any one of us born into royalty and I totally agree.

For me, when I think of The Royal Family, I instantly think of colonialism and how many of the jewels on the Queen’s crown has been stolen from different countries. I understand not everyone thinks like this but why do some love the members of this establishment as if they’ve done anything to better your life? I’d love to hear people’s views. I’ve tried to have this conversation in real life but everyone I know couldn’t care less about The Royal Family so I’m none the wiser.

Here’s the Stacey Solomon clip for any who haven’t seen it before

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Libertybear80 · 05/06/2022 19:47

I just love the way Betty stands up for everyone but especially ex naval paedophiles. It makes me so proud to have them as our figureheads!

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/06/2022 19:52

I suppose if we all had to live as apologists for our more heinous family members then we'd all be living under a rock.

MotherOfRatios · 05/06/2022 19:54

I don't the royal family is the epitome of colonialism, the queen has soft powers which have influenced laws for the worse.

The jewels they wear are stolen, racism is embedded within the royal family, we have a government who spent millions on this jubilee but only made decisions to help with the cost of living at last minute?!

I don't think George will reign young people are mainly republicans

News paper article

twitter.com/dwnews/status/1532314079628517377?s=21&t=hfTrXz66yHeOJZ6f4KkyOg

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MintJulia · 05/06/2022 19:55

Because they are terribly British, because they aren't averse to occasionally saying it how it is, they have the same amount of battiness as most families, and I love the way the Queen deals with the more distasteful end of the world's diplomats.

I'm hoping Prince Charles will develop equally scathing tactics to deal with climate change deniers. 🙂

NippyWoowoo · 05/06/2022 19:56

gotthis · 05/06/2022 19:02

I am disinterested in the RF as a concept, but I will admit to a real affection for Diana. I remember the AIDS panic and homophobia as a teenager in the 80s. When the clip of her holding a dying AIDS patient's hand came out it really changed attitudes and compassion. There are also really touching clips of her interaction with sick children, or amputees. I know she was also from a privileged background, but I don't think her compassion could be faked.

I agree with this. I used to look at the royal family as something quite 'cute' but honestly Andrew has put me over the edge. Lost respect for their handling of it.

DingleyDel · 05/06/2022 20:02

I don’t but the history is interesting and has provided for many good plays/tv series/books. Shakespeare, Wolf hall, the crown. I saw a brilliant play the other day by living spit who do a lot of history based comedy. I don’t wish we’d never had them by any means.

I heard them described on radio 5 (by a caller) the other day as state funded Kardashians. I mean that’s basically their purpose nowadays. I think it’s for people to decide we want and need state funded Kardashians.

HandlebarLadyTash · 05/06/2022 20:03

I don't love them, but they are downsizing the hangers on and I think they are an interesting novelty for the country

FoiledByTheInsect · 05/06/2022 20:06

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/06/2022 19:52

I suppose if we all had to live as apologists for our more heinous family members then we'd all be living under a rock.

Apart from the minor fact that normal people never socialise/take money from crooks, serial rapists and paedophiles and get fired if they do, there's "apologising" and then there's supporting and allowing.

Panorama:

EM "Do you regret your association with Epstein?"

Nonce: "Still not... because of the people I met and the opportunities, which were very useful"

Nonce given 12million, car, free luxury accommodation, pride of place at public ceremony.

The British identity.

Penguintears · 05/06/2022 20:08

No one chooses the family they're born into.

DrunkSquirrels · 05/06/2022 20:09

A monarch as Head of State transcends politics and gives a longevity and perspective that we wouldn’t get from a politician. And it would be politicians that sought election.

I have personally met several royals through their charity work. Only a fraction of that makes the news but it motivates and highlights in a way that is remarkable.

The Royal Family attract tourists and generate income in a way that few Presidents achieve.

It’s not a perfect system but I do think it is better than a realistic alternative. And I wouldn’t want their life for anything! Yes, it’s privileged but it’s also prescribed and lived in a goldfish bowl. I’m not sure many of us would really give up our freedom and privacy for that.

RepublicOfNarnia · 05/06/2022 20:11

I don't love them at all but I do wonder what it must do to someone's psyche to one day realise that they were literally born into royalty. Like what sort of mind fuck that would be to just casually realise one day that you are literally royal. I think it's different to be born into wealth say if you're the kids of e.g. Steve Jobs or Elon Musk.

But there's something about the Brits which is wedded to anachronism. It's why people are falling over themselves to shout about the Queen's 'work ethic' and sheer dedication etc etc but seem to have forgotten that now more than ever before families are living in actual poverty. Kids are starving. People are having to choose between eating and heating.

FoiledByTheInsect · 05/06/2022 20:13

DrunkSquirrels what do you mean, "transcends politics"? Where did you get that idea, the RF website?

Topgub · 05/06/2022 20:13

But being royal is meaningless

They're not special in any way.

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/06/2022 20:16

Foiled to an extent I agree, but having come across many, many seemingly "normal people" who also have done lots of dreadful things, including just ignoring great transgressions that their 'family' have committed, I'd say the
Hat Lady does a rather good job at holding her head high.

When most of us either duck the truth or hang our heads in shame at it.

SchoolNightWine · 05/06/2022 20:18

cab321 · 05/06/2022 19:30

When I was younger I was not pro the Royal Family but now with years of life experience, I think a constitutional monarchy which works well, is infinitely better than a presidential system. We still vote for the actual Government and who is PM so it is the best of both worlds and the stability it brings is invaluable.
Whether it is fair for individuals to have to devote their lives in this way is another matter. I also am now an atheist and so do not believe the Queen has been 'chosen by God' to rule.

This⬆️
And Stacey Solomon has gone right down in my estimation with that speech! She may not have the state paying anything towards her lifestyle, but she's doing pretty well for basically being a pointless celebrity.

TheKeatingFive · 05/06/2022 20:19

I heard them described on radio 5 (by a caller) the other day as state funded Kardashians. I mean that’s basically their purpose nowadays. I think it’s for people to decide we want and need state funded Kardashians.

This is an excellent description.

I understand why the U.K. may have wanted state sponsored Kardashians in the past, but now when they're literally ten a penny on Instagram, I absolutely don't see why anyone would want to shell out vast quantities of cash for them.

SchoolNightWine · 05/06/2022 20:21

newbiename · 05/06/2022 19:33

PPs saying we don't want President Boris - I agree , but he is elected.
Although the Queen has no power - it's wrong she's there just because she happened to be born into a certain family.

I most certainly didn't elect him, but am stuck with him. Much prefer being stuck with the royal family who on the whole are caring and trying to do as much good as they can.

RepublicOfNarnia · 05/06/2022 20:22

The Royal Family's PR machine must be amazing. How are they managing to convince people they are the best mechanism in so far as a working constitution. As though they are some sort of benign power.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent

SchoolNightWine · 05/06/2022 20:23

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This has been withdrawn at the poster's request.

My thoughts on Stacey too!
And laughing at your user name as I have one🤣

gotthis · 05/06/2022 20:24

RepublicOfNarnia · 05/06/2022 20:11

I don't love them at all but I do wonder what it must do to someone's psyche to one day realise that they were literally born into royalty. Like what sort of mind fuck that would be to just casually realise one day that you are literally royal. I think it's different to be born into wealth say if you're the kids of e.g. Steve Jobs or Elon Musk.

But there's something about the Brits which is wedded to anachronism. It's why people are falling over themselves to shout about the Queen's 'work ethic' and sheer dedication etc etc but seem to have forgotten that now more than ever before families are living in actual poverty. Kids are starving. People are having to choose between eating and heating.

Regarding your first point I think they lead such an insular existence, with so few challenges to their beliefs, that ordinary people just can't comprehend their psyche. Maybe they are a bit like children abandoned in the jungle and brought up by a different species. They all marinade in the family's problematic history, such as sympathising with Hitler, racism, association with sex offenders, and other issues. They do not see themselves as part of ordinary humanity, I would think.

restedbutexhausted · 05/06/2022 20:25

I was ready to rip into you OP, but you've echoed my sentiments perfectly. Abolish the lot of them.

NippyWoowoo · 05/06/2022 20:36

When I was younger I was not pro the Royal Family but now with years of life experience, I think a constitutional monarchy which works well, is infinitely better than a presidential system. We still vote for the actual Government and who is PM so it is the best of both worlds and the stability it brings is invaluable.

Hi, former island colony chiming in to say that it's not one or the other.

We have a PM that is elected in the same way as in the UK. Our president is merely ceremonial, much like the queen. She signs off on things, but we do not vote for her and presidents serve set terms

jimboandthejetset · 05/06/2022 20:43

@pedropony76 I wanted to do a similar thread but I wasn't brave enough!
I'm sure the queen is a lovely lady. She didn't choose to be born a royal, and I have some sympathy for her having to live her whole life as the queen, not as herself.

But, it's not necessary. Not anymore. The UK would be no worse off at all if we didn't have the RF. The tourist money brought in is debatable (please Google if you don't believe me). There is no place in modern day society for a family who rule over us by birthright, by divine right even. Its obscene really.
What has the queen / RF actually done for us, their people? They may have helped with morale during the war but the war ended nearly 80yrs ago.
What about Andrew and their protection of him and his disgusting behaviour?
What about the treatment of Harry and Megan who dared take a stand? And by treatment I mean by the public. The treatment of Megan was absolutely appalling. She's just a human woman. That's all. As is Kate, actually. She's just a woman who happened to marry someone who happened to be born a royal. She's not something special.

I love the palaces and the history. It's fascinating. But enough is enough. Please let it end when Liz dies.

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:45

As an aside who on earth is Stacey Solomon?

lolanthe · 05/06/2022 20:47

FoiledByTheInsect · 05/06/2022 20:13

DrunkSquirrels what do you mean, "transcends politics"? Where did you get that idea, the RF website?

I was wondering the same. Transcends politics! What rubbish 🤔