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I think this guy's cocklodging but not sure.

93 replies

Kertrats · 05/06/2022 08:47

My good friend is in her late twenties and divorced with a small child. Her boyfriend is 33. (I'm going to call him John though obviously not his real name) has just moved in with her into her flat.

They met a few years ago and had a fling which he ended.
They've been 'mates' since drinking in the same local (with the occasional sexual encounter no doubt) and she had another casual relationship which ended.

Anyway John's never had a job and never moved out of his mother's house apart from the brief time he moved out and apparently lived in chaos and mess.

About six months ago his mother put pressure on him to move out (don't blame her) so he suggested a trial run of living together with my friend.
Apparently it 'worked out' and he's now moving in full time.

The reason I ask 'is this cocklodgery?' is that I can't see what he's gaining financially from it. Though he only ever goes to the pub once a week so spends little.
My friend also doesn't work but she has an extremely reasonable reason as her child is only two and she is her sole carer. Her child has some mild learning difficulties.
I don't see any reason why John is not working.
Basically they'd still all be on benefits.

What do you think of this situation? I've known her a long time and don't want to see her hurt. I know what I think but don't want to influence any replies.
TIA.

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ConsuelaHammock · 05/06/2022 12:52

He’s probably using her. And they’re both using the tax payers. Lovely couple !

ConsuelaHammock · 05/06/2022 12:56

They both need to get jobs and support themselves. What is wrong with this country that permits two young, able bodied people to sit around and do nothing while taking money from those who do work? If they had to ask tax payers directly for a share of their wages, I wonder would they be so lazy.
Shell probably be pregnant within a year, then she won’t be able to find childcare for two and so the cycle continues.

Kertrats · 05/06/2022 12:57

I don't really think Johns going to be that worried about an income drop as long as he has enough money for his baccy, booze, and, er, a certain habit he has. I think you can all kind of guess what that might be. Not something that could get him into serious trouble.
This is why I started this thread, really, as it occurred to me that he's not really a cocklodger in the traditional sense.

Maybe just a desperate user then.

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Muckymaisonette · 05/06/2022 13:02

Waccy baccy by any chance?

stuckdownahole · 05/06/2022 13:12

He's a waste of space but she's obviously lonely and feels as though she can't do any better.

Not much you can do, OP, not for the moment anyway. If you confront her with the fact that she's made an obvious bad choice, she will get upset and defensive.

decayingmatter · 05/06/2022 13:20

Blaze1886 · 05/06/2022 10:22

If your friend is happy, why can't you be happy for her?

Are you single and jealous?

Jeez, some people really do see having 'a man' (any man) as the only measure of success and happiness don't they.

Yes, Blaze, we are ALL jealous. We are beside ourselves with envy that this woman has a jobless, feckless loser stationed in her house and that she is the lucky woman who gets to wash his skiddy kecks, hoover around him whilst he picks his nose, and watch him game day and night. If only everyone without a man could achieve this utopia.

Redruby2020 · 05/06/2022 13:47

@decayingmatter 👏🤣

IncompleteSenten · 05/06/2022 13:56

Never mind those without a man, I'll trade in my fully functioning, weight pulling, adult one for this dreamboat. 😍😍😍
He's what we should all aim for.

ChairP0se9to5 · 05/06/2022 13:59

And dont forget the smell of wacky baccy! We'revall jealous of that too.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 05/06/2022 14:04

@Kertrats I hazard a guess that his "habit" is weed/other drugs?

custardbear · 05/06/2022 14:04

Goodness he's a waste of valuable air and water! Craigs list would read:-
Cocklodger seeks dimwit to mother him, pay for him, feed him, clothe him and wipe his arse

In reality your friend will lose out, but worse still her child will suffer - he's absolutely using her, he's scum

No doubt he'll also cheat on her too if he's a charmer

sst1234 · 05/06/2022 18:49

ConsuelaHammock · 05/06/2022 12:56

They both need to get jobs and support themselves. What is wrong with this country that permits two young, able bodied people to sit around and do nothing while taking money from those who do work? If they had to ask tax payers directly for a share of their wages, I wonder would they be so lazy.
Shell probably be pregnant within a year, then she won’t be able to find childcare for two and so the cycle continues.

Ssshhh you’re not allowed to say this. It upsets the kind hearted progressives.

Kertrats · 05/06/2022 19:54

Well thanks to those who replied. Seems Johns deemed by the majority to be a cocklodger - don't understand where the 25% who disagree are coming from but no matter. Lol.

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Jemmozlfc · 06/06/2022 19:11

Your friend needs to see the light- he's definitely benefitting: An unpaid mummy, maid, cook, carer and lover. Not blaming her and she might well be lonely, but she really should be focusing on raising her daughter, not entertaining men. He wanted a roof over his head because mummy kicked him out and he has nowhere to go, and your friend was totally convenient. I've sadly seen this happen to single mums a lot- men who've been kicked out by their ex/parents, just been evicted or just come out of prison with nowhere to go putting the charm on them or selling them a sob story. The simple fact was they wanted somewhere to live, and a single mum is a perfect target as she already has a house/flat.

Jemmozlfc · 06/06/2022 19:15

Just to add- I really pray for the kids in these situations, with a compete stranger suddenly moving in. I dont have kids but if I had, any new partner wouldn't be meeting them, never mind moving in, for a LONG time

ChairP0se9to5 · 06/06/2022 19:34

Yeh, i know that most men arent you know "like that" but im just relieved (as a single parent) that the only bf i had in the last 14 years never lived with us. My family is me+ my dc.

I hope that doesn't sound judgy though. Its just a relief to me.

I kept my kids safe. So did lots of women who did move a partner in tho, i know.

Comedycook · 08/06/2022 20:27

I read a brilliant quote on here ages ago...

No one falls in love faster than a man who needs somewhere to live

Kertrats · 11/06/2022 06:48

Comedycook · 08/06/2022 20:27

I read a brilliant quote on here ages ago...

No one falls in love faster than a man who needs somewhere to live

Excellent!

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