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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

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whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 19:41

@EverydayIsPJday
I totally agree with you .
I'm not overly good at wording things and can't put thing as elegantly as you .
I don't wish to offend op but like it or not she has a child and life changes to fit around that child. Some people can make the adjustment but it seems to me op needs a little help to adjust .
Op and her DP need to compromise on responsibility.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:43

Those questioning my job - there are risks associated with dropping the ball which I am much more likely to do under conditions of poor sleep. I don't work in a job where people are routinely at risk necessarily - I'm not a medic, I'm not saving lives. But at times, not being fully on the ball could potentially put others at risk in my line of work, yes. Hence my worry about doing my job on little sleep.

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billy1966 · 31/05/2022 19:43

OP,

You poor woman.

You indeed sound at the end of your tether and he really has left it all to you.

Don't have more children with him.
Look at jobs closer to your family whom will support you.
Stop doing it all.
Stop doing anything in the house that benefits him.

He's selfish and has shown you exactly who he is.

You cannot force someone not to put themselves first, it is who they are.

You have to protect yourself.

You may love him, but he loves himself too, way more than he cares for you or his child.

Men that really love you, don't leave everything to you.

They pitch in and share the load.
Action not words. Always.

Mind yourself.

Blarting · 31/05/2022 19:45

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:43

Those questioning my job - there are risks associated with dropping the ball which I am much more likely to do under conditions of poor sleep. I don't work in a job where people are routinely at risk necessarily - I'm not a medic, I'm not saving lives. But at times, not being fully on the ball could potentially put others at risk in my line of work, yes. Hence my worry about doing my job on little sleep.

Or being distracted by an online forum?

Iateallthechocolate · 31/05/2022 19:47

It's definitely him not you. He's slacking, he's not doing half of everything and he should be. In fact he should be doing more than half since the pregnancy left you with health problems. He should be stepping up now and taking on more of the load.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:48

@Blarting

May I suggest you extend your detective work to checking time stamps on my posts?

You'll note zero engagement with this forum from me today for a 3 hour 10 minute period between 12.40 and 15.50.

That was when it was critical my attention was fully elsewhere.

There are times I can take my foot off the pedal a little.

Is that ok?

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Blarting · 31/05/2022 19:50

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:48

@Blarting

May I suggest you extend your detective work to checking time stamps on my posts?

You'll note zero engagement with this forum from me today for a 3 hour 10 minute period between 12.40 and 15.50.

That was when it was critical my attention was fully elsewhere.

There are times I can take my foot off the pedal a little.

Is that ok?

It's ok, but it does lead me to think your description of your job has been exaggerated. I wish I only had to concentrate in my job for less than four hours out of an eight hour working day.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:53

@Blarting

You win some, you lose some, I guess. Some days it's horrific and I'm meeting myself coming backwards. Others, it's much better.

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whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 19:54

"There are risks associated with dropping the ball in my job - risks to my own and others' physical safety. "

"I don't work in a job where people are routinely at risk necessarily "

Op you seem to contradict yourself,

"I wfh some days yes.
DC in childcare when I'm working."

How can you be in physical danger in your own home .

I'm sorry op but I've invested my time trying to help , but feel a little mislead .
You might be giving your DP mixed messages to .

Onekidnoclue · 31/05/2022 19:54

Have you read “drop the ball” by Tiffany Dufu. It’s life changing. Basically the point is something needs to give. It’s going to be your mental health, your job, the mental load or your DP needs to do some more for the family. Good luck.

Blarting · 31/05/2022 19:56

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 19:53

@Blarting

You win some, you lose some, I guess. Some days it's horrific and I'm meeting myself coming backwards. Others, it's much better.

It's good you have easy days! Can't remember my last one.

I'd have let my DH do the week of nights, then asked him to start sleep training on the week he had off, you could maybe go out/stay else where that week and maybe the sleep issue would be sorted. Especially as you have two weeks holiday leading on from that, which again your DH could've continued the sleep training?

InFiveMins · 31/05/2022 20:01

YABU.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:03

@whowhatwerewhy

I didn't say it was me who could be in physical danger by my errors, did I.

I don't contradict myself.

People are not routinely at risk. They are not dying. I am not a medic saving lives in emergency situations. But - if I fuck up^ at critical^ points in my job, it could have serious consequences for others.

Some days I wfh, others I work at my work base. Whichever place I am working, DC is in childcare.

What's misleading about that?

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Blarting · 31/05/2022 20:03

@stressedmum22 when DH is not out of the house working long hours, nights, does he help?

You've said he does all the night wakings, which is hard after long days.

Does he help elsewhere?

Does he do bedtime?

Crikeyalmighty · 31/05/2022 20:05

You did say you thought some people might disagree with you and then get shirtyif they disagree. I agree with your H and his comments- but then I'm two marriages and 3 children I've never had a husband who did significant amounts of nighttime feeds or awakenings but did work slightly less hours and with no shifts. Their May be some saintly men out there who are amazing in the night and do 50/50 fully on everything even when shift work involved but I've yet to meet one .

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:07

@Blarting

Yes. He is doing bedtime as we speak.

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Crikeyalmighty · 31/05/2022 20:11

@billy1966 I totally disagree about men not loving you if they don't fully pitch in. I know plenty of men who totally adore their wives and partners but are more than happy to do f all around the house 'if ' they can get away with it.

Blarting · 31/05/2022 20:12

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:07

@Blarting

Yes. He is doing bedtime as we speak.

So he works long hours, does overtime which you seem to need the money, does all the night wakings, some that are two hours long, is doing bedtime, whilst you've had a busy time of less than four hours today.?

But he's not being reasonable?

Jesus!

Blarting · 31/05/2022 20:13

Crikeyalmighty · 31/05/2022 20:11

@billy1966 I totally disagree about men not loving you if they don't fully pitch in. I know plenty of men who totally adore their wives and partners but are more than happy to do f all around the house 'if ' they can get away with it.

But this doesn't apply to this man, he does all night wakings when not on nights, is doing bed time, whilst OP has spent the vast majority of the day on MN!

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:15

@Blarting

Christ are you just looking for someone to argue with?

He wanted to do bedtime with his daughter when he came home at 6pm today after I had collected her and spent time with her. He enjoys that time with her.

That alright?

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Blarting · 31/05/2022 20:17

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:15

@Blarting

Christ are you just looking for someone to argue with?

He wanted to do bedtime with his daughter when he came home at 6pm today after I had collected her and spent time with her. He enjoys that time with her.

That alright?

Yes, that's what I'm saying I think he is pulling his weight, I think you're BVU!

whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 20:19

risks to my own and others' physical safety. "

Yes you have contradicted yourself .

Blarting · 31/05/2022 20:21

Can we imagine if a man had posted all this on MN, saying his DW was unreasonable for working weeks of contracted nights, whilst spending most of the day on a forum complaining about him? When she came home from working at 6, then did bedtime, so he could continue to mon about her on a forum?

Wouldn't go down well and even if she was the lower earner, he be told that her job was just as important for various reasons.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 20:21

Where have I said he does no bedtimes?! You're creating an argument against something I've never raised as an issue. My issue is the amount of time he spends not here because of work, which includes many (not all) evenings and many (not all) weekends and some night shifts. When he's here, he pitches in with night wakings as I've already said and he also does some bedtimes.

I mean, it's actually a novelty to have him home before 8pm tbh, for all 3 of us! DD is enjoying bedtime with daddy.

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Notfatundertall · 31/05/2022 20:23

I haven't rtft sorry. But I have read a few posts and I can kinda see both sides of the coin here.

Exdp used to work permanent nights. This meant all childcare emergencies, activities etc etc fell to me. Both for our dd and for my dsc on contact time. It was hard work and frustrating. Dd didn't sleep through reliably til she was nearly 6 years old. Sp please believe me when I say I know first hand what sleep deprivation does to your MH.

However his job involves night shifts which presumably it dod before you had a child and so I think you are being unreasonable to be cross at him and demand a plan for how he gets out of working them.

If he can't swap he will have to work and sorry @stressedmum22 you will have to suck it up and find a way to manage. If he has the following week off make sure on your day off you get time to yourself without being responsible for him or your child.

It is hard, but unless he finds another job that doesn't involve working nights you need to find a way to manage on those weeks.

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