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To want to murder all people who make nasty comments about me being a Blind, Pregnant Mum?

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BlindBint · 13/01/2008 13:33

Hi,
Just wondering if any one has any ideas on witty comments to give to people when they say things about me being a blind mum and pregnant, or if anyone has any thoughts on how to deal with these people in a way that makes them think twice. I'd welcome suggestions whether you have an impairment of any kind or not.

Also, If you saw a Blind, pregnant woman out and about with her 10 year old daughter, what would your first thoughts be?

I am 29, and have discovered that a great way to deal with this is to have a few t-shirts with cheeky phrases printed on them. Two of my most recent ones are "Keep staring...I might do a trick!", and "Yes, I'm Blind. Yes, I'm Pregnant. GET OVER IT!!"

Best hurtful comments so far have been "I didn't think people like that were allowed to have children"
"Oooh, I bet that little girl has a horrible life"
and the most wonderful one came when I was STOOD UP on a bus (No-one would give me a seat), with my bump fully visible-two women were openly debating amongst themselves if I actually was pregnant or not. I was right next to them and could hear every word they said. They came to the conclusion that I wasn't pregnant, but I was wearing "One of those fake bumps, you know, like what they have in america to give to teenagers so that they don't get broody or don't get pregnant"

AAARRRGGGHHHHH!

I've only been Blind for 3 years! What was I supposed to do? Lock my daughter in a cupboard just because I lost my sight?!

OP posts:
PussinJimmyChoos · 13/01/2008 22:06
kindersurprise · 13/01/2008 22:08

BB
Welcome to MN and congratulations on your pregnancy.

I am unable to think of a suitable witty putdown, as I am so astonished that anyone could be so rude.

There were some great suggestions from others though, and I love what you and your DD do. She sounds really cool.

DoodleToYou · 13/01/2008 22:08

Message withdrawn

PussinJimmyChoos · 13/01/2008 22:10

Aww Doodle! Had an emergency C section though so that probably helped matters somewhat!

wannaBe · 13/01/2008 22:13

. I am extremely fortunate in that I have never come across negativity either to my disability or the fact that I have a child. I have come across a lot of ignorance though, it is widely documented on here for instance, that one day in m&s the assistant asked me if my guide dog helps with the cooking .

I have also had comments from people such as ?how ever do you cope? and had one comment from someone who said ?well it?s probably bestyou haven?t had any more children (have been ttc for nearly three years now) it must have been hard enough for you to cope with one.?. My general view on people that make comments like that though are that they are predominantly ignorant, and that most comments really aren?t made out of prejudice but ignorance, and that while I think a nasty comeback is often the most tempting thought, the best approach is to try to educate, and to try and do it without showing irritation or upset, much easier said than done I know. (doesn?t mean I don?t go home and bitch to dh about ?the ignorant tosser I met today though .?

I also think how you come across can influence how you are perceived by others. For instance, I am a very confident person and I am very independent. I don?t see being blind as a disability, not for me, yes there are things I can?t do such as drive a car, but for the most part I do everything that anyone else does. I have a 5 year old son, I help out at school once a week, am on the PTA, and in the process of worming my way on to the governors, I am a sahm as that is the choice I made, but I am a keen cook and cook everything from scratch, I volunteer to help out at school discos ett and if anyone has ever had an issue with that they couldn?t really have said it because I am confident in the person I am iykwim? But on the flip side I have a friend who has no confidence what so ever. This isn?t due to her disability but due to other issues she?s had in her life, but her lack of confidence has manifested itself in her seeing herself as blind and nothing else. To the extent she has only blind friend, goes to blind social groups, and only applies for jobs in the disability sector. As consequence she says that only blind people treat her normally, and IMO it has a lot to do with how she comes across. She makes her blindness an issue, so to people that know no better, it is.

One thing I also found helps is that I have a guide dog. I don?t know why, but people do seem to treat you differently when you have a guide dog, I think in a way a white stick is seen almost as a symbol of disability, whereas a dog, although still being a mobility aid, is seen more as something people can relate to. It?s hard to explain, but I found that when I was training with my last dog and had to use a cane while he was still unqualified, less people stopped to let me cross the road than did when I had the dog with me. Tis odd and I can?t explain why. have you considered getting a dog? Because the freedom a dog will give you will far outweigh that you would have when using a cane.

I would certainly ditch the slogan t-shirts. You do not need to wear your disability as a label, and I don?t think they do you any favours. I?m sorry to say that I think a lot of people viewing a disabled person with a t-shirt like that would consider them to have a bit of a chip on their shoulder.

And in future I would just be inclined to join in the ?are they allowed to have children? conversations by saying something like ?well, having no sight does have its advantages, after all, I can do nappy changes etc in the dark, which means that baby won?t wake fuly and is likely just to go straight back to sleep, as opposed to those babies who wake fully when the light is turned on in the middle of the night.".

remember, the more positively you are perceived, the more people you will educate, and the less people will have to endure such ignorance in the future.

Shitemum · 13/01/2008 22:16

Blindbint - congrats on your pregnancy. I hope you now have a stock of wtty answers ready for the idiots who make rude comments about you in public.
Can I ask a really stupid question? How do you navigate your way round the web and post on MN? I find it hard enough and I am not blind (tho' I am quite deaf and fairly 'dumb' )

nzshar · 13/01/2008 22:25

Hi BB my dp is registered blind with a small amount of sight but can totally get where you are coming from. People are so damn ignorant and arrogant sometimes. Dp has just in the past week had someone shout at him (blind not deaf!), offer help then when politely declined asked are you sure, then taken by the arm and walked across the road without dp's permission!! They are so so so lucky I wasnt there
Hate it when we go to restuarants etc and they take off at a speed to show the table and theres me with dp,3 year old and surly 13 yer old or when they get all huffy because it takes more time to decide what to eat as either i have to read the menu to dp or (if the light is good enough) he reads it very slowly with a video magnifier!
Apparently if yuo have any disablilty this renders you useless and not having a mind as well.
Oh dear sorry that ended up a bit of a mini rant.

nzshar · 13/01/2008 22:25

Oh congratulations on the pregnancy btw

wannaBe · 13/01/2008 22:32

oh I have had the "follow me" from people in shops as they disappear off into the distance .

I do think it's better when people ask their ignorant questions to you directly though, at least there is some hope of getting through to those, the ones that sit and talk to each other without asking directly are probably beyond help.

i have been known to correct the occasional comment about my dog "it's a blind dog" with "if it's a blind dog then im screwed". .

VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/01/2008 22:45

Congratulations on your pg and welcome to MN

I am ed and on your behalf.

The ignorance of some folk is utterly amazing.

Nightynight · 13/01/2008 22:48

In answer to the OP's question, if I saw a blind woman out with her children/pregnant, my first thought would be RESPECT.

BlindBint · 13/01/2008 23:02

LyraSilverTongue,
I'm sorry that you think my t-shirts sound aggressive. The truth is, when you're sick and tired of people's misconceptions and ignorance, it starts to make you FEEL aggressive, but so-called "Polite" society doesn't allow you to vent it, even though day in day out I experience "Aggressive" actions and comments by strangers and am expected to just accept and ignore it.

While wearing my slogan t-shirts, many members of the public have approached me and said how great and refreshing they think they are-and I've found that then it is a kind of Ice-breaker. They realise that I am a normal person with normal feelings and a normal brain capacity, and often it has been a good way to show that I have a sense of humour. I've never had a negative reaction to any of them-in fact it's always been the opposite. I find that when I am wearing them, I'm less likely to have someone plough into me, and some people are even using them as a conversation starter.

The one that always causes the most giggles is a fleece jacket that I wear. On the back is printed "It's not a white stick, it's an idiot detector..."
It's not always obvious to people what the exact meaning of this phrase is, until they are walking behind me and see all the people who bash into me, try to jump over my stick, etc.
I've had so many comments about it-always from people a few paces behind me who were confused at first and then couldn't believe the amount of rudeness they had witnessed.

I implore you, please, imagine you are in a position where you experience people walking into you, causing your stick to bash into your heavily pregnant bump, with them only to say something like "Watch where you're going" EVERY time you go out. In those few split seconds, you are more concerned with making sure your child is still with you, and that you now have to stop and reassess where you are and where you need to go than to think of an on the spot reply. So, wearing these T-shirts is my way of not only getting my own back in a sense, but a glimmer of hope that as I am approaching them, someone may read the t-shirt, and then see my white stick, and hopefully not walk into me.

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smartiejake · 13/01/2008 23:13

I can't believe that people (sorry neanderthals dragging knuckles and with hairy backs) can be so F*ing ignorant and insensitive to make such ignorant comments. Congrats on your PG and console yourself with the fact theat your dcs will be brought up in a loving and non-judgemental family.

Read a story the other day about some poor woman who had a terrible accident and ended up with a terribly scarred face. A passer by called her a "monster"!!!! WHo are these people?
They should be publicly humiliated and then flogged!!!

wannaBe · 14/01/2008 07:44

where do you live?

ratclare · 14/01/2008 08:55

sorry if this might not be PC ,but do you have a stick? if not could you get one , a quick accidental wack to these peoples ankles sounds as if its long overdue

saltire · 14/01/2008 09:22

Well Blindbint, in answer to your question - If I saw you out and about I would think "Wonder when she's due", the fact you were blind wouldn't occur to me, or make any difference. I think someone posted something similar further down.
I grew up with a partially blind dad thoughy, he had diabetes, and it caused bleeding behind his retinas and they had to be burned away with a laser. So in one eye he had tunnel vision and the other he described as having the bottom of his eye blocked off. We as children used to get a lot of negative comments when out with dad, he obviously couldn't work and as you can imagine it caused comments as well. people saw him wlaking aorund without his white stick ( he was too proud to use it) and said things like "Oh well he can when he wants to"

Pesha · 14/01/2008 09:42

I cant believe so many people bump into you BB when you're out with your stick

My friend doesnt have a stick, I think she did when she was younger but had an incident where she felt someone was following her and TBH in a town like this she probably would get people bumping into her all the time.

I find the most annoying thing when I go for a night out with her is men coming up and telling me how wonderful they think I am and what a great thing I'm doing. Er no, I'm out with a mate to get drunk and have a laugh!! We walk round arms linked all night and go to the toilet together but most women do that anyway dont they?!

She doesnt have the talking computer thing yet but I think is just about to go on a course to learn how to use it. I've told her about Mumsnet often enough so I imagine she'll be here as soon as she can!

Congratulations on your pregnancy btw BB, think I forgot to say that in my last post!!

LoveAngel · 14/01/2008 09:46

Haven't read the whole thread, but just wanted to say to the OP I cannot believe how rude and vile some people are. At least you have retained some sort of sense of humour about it (I doubt I'd be able to rise above it so well).
Fuck 'em. They're obviously complete imbeciles.

StealthPolarBear · 14/01/2008 09:57

Sorry, I should be shocked (and I am) but am too busy laughing at your comment about a cattle prod instead of a white stick.
I think whoever suggested the 'education' method had a good point, keeps you off their level and might actually change their opinion if not, sound like you have loads of put downs!

princessosyth · 14/01/2008 09:58

There are a lot of narrow minded ignorant people in this country.

bananaknickers · 14/01/2008 10:07

Wannabe you sound great fun

bananaknickers · 14/01/2008 10:08

congratulations BB

sabaidii · 14/01/2008 10:23

BB, there are some rotten, nasty peopleout there.

I live in Asia, and I am also from a developing country. it doesn't matter how much confidence you have, people still make nasty comments. There is a blind lady here who has children. She is the strongest person I know next to Sabaidii, and believe me, I mean strong.

Congratulations btw.

BlindBint · 15/01/2008 13:45

Thanks again for your replies and support.

Wannabe, I live in South Yorkshire. Nearest town is Barnsley.

All my love,
BB
XxXxX

OP posts:
ManxMum · 15/01/2008 14:17

Please remember everyone that you can be registered blind and still have sight.

I am and I do, but the looks I get from people (Glad I can't see them!) usually when using the 'blue badge' (don't worry, I don't actually drive the car, just from 'the back seat')and the mutterings of 'she doesn't look disabled'

Plus side is being able to touch up strange men and get away with it!! (So sorry, I thought you were my husband)

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