Fashion is just being skinny

[notsoskinny]

So I've been thinking about this a lot and came across some social media posts of celebs in tracksuits / the Princess Diana long t shirt and bike shorts etc. and the comments are always 'fashion (some fire emoji or heart)' but it's not is it? It's just a skinny person in clothes that if a non-skinny person wore, would look like they made no effort?

I know people who aren't stick thin look good in certain outfits and that there are more interesting fashion choices (I love Self-Portrait and Reformation) but realistically, so many 'trends' only look good on thin people.

Is this all in my head?

pp got it right about previous generations where the clothes were made especially for the person.

If you can sew, or you know someone who can sew for you at a price you can afford it is well worth having made-to-measure clothes. I have massive boobs and am now fatter than i have ever been due to covid + laziness + not getting back into a gym routine. I have made a lot of observations on fashion and clothing over the years.

No matter what your body shape: you should try to wear tailored clothes, that fit properly. Don't wear things that are too tight. That makes you look too fat, no matter what size you are (bodycon + slim + youth is the exception, but again, that is fitted not too small)

If you have boobs or a bum, get clothes that are fitted to that - if i wear a loose t-shirt, it hangs down from my boobs, so even in my thinner states, i have looked the size of Pat Butcher. The trend for the French Tuck (or versions of same) is actually very clever and a good way of breaking up shapes.

Basically you just have to experiment (also: it is very easy to make clothes for a tall skinny, flat-chested person. Darts and shaping are either non-existent or easy. It is just how sewing works)

I just scrolled her page and didn't see a single t shirt in like the first 50 pics. Looks to be mainly elegant dresses and button up blouses etc. She seems quite well dressed to me.

But I can see how a slim sunkissed girl can pull off a surf chick look, for example, with short denim shorts and an old baggy t shirt whilst others would just look like they were gardening.

But on the other hand, fat women often have invisibility privilege where they suffer less unwanted attention from men. One of my best friends is a model and she can barely have a drink without some guy sidling up and trying it on. Often they get rude even if politely rejected and it can put a real downer on a night out.

Ever think clothes don't look as good again because of how society views fat woman.they aren't MADE for you.its fat phobia,diet culture,thin ideal that spur this on.unrealistic photoshopped images.dicosl and media.
The clothes ate sized up for larger folk.they aren't tailored or thought of on you.that why when fat woman DO make collection for themselves they look shop in!
It's also how you feel.what you radiate,give off.thinner woman have a head start in being more comfortable,accepted,seen as worthy,introduced,helped,supported.
Larger people are shamed,thinner applauded.
It's breaking people down.

I think it is height as well. One of my children is skinny with very long legs so will end up I think with the proportions that fit fashion. I however am not blessed with the height or long legs so even when I’ve been at my most skinny, I’ve still looked a bit dumpy. My other child has inherited the short legged gene after me poor thing.

The clothes ate sized up for larger folk.they aren't tailored or thought of on you

This is exactly the problem. You can't take an article of clothing and just make it larger for bigger sizes, it doesn't work that way. While there is no thought put into clothes design we will always have a problem.

Look up Celeste Barber on FB. An Australian comedian who 'copies' these photos. I can't explain, really, you'll have to look. A photo really does say a thousand words.

The women who look good in the clothes aren't just thin though. They are a whole package of beauty, incorporating fabulous skin, pretty faces and great hair. Clothes look great on plus size women who also have these things. Conversely clothes wouldn't look nearly as good on a tall thin woman who was otherwise very plain.

Skinny people look good in everything. Fat people look frumpy no matter what they wear. I say this as a fat person who would like to be skinny!

I always think this when I see a photo of a model or a celeb wearing something like a plain white t-shirt, jeans and trainers. They’re always hailed as looking ‘effortlessly stylish’ or words to that effect whereas the rest of us would just look scruffy and unpolished.

Having said that, I do have some incredibly fashionable and stylish friends who are a size 20+ and always look fabulously put together. But I know they tend to shop very carefully and spend a lot of time accessorising and doing their makeup perfectly, it’s definitely not an ‘effortless’ look.

But on the other hand, fat women often have invisibility privilege where they suffer less unwanted attention from men.

Oh noes! privilege my arse. They aren't ignored. They are targeted in different ways and it is just as revolting. As though they should be grateful for any attention from any man, and it is usually the sweaty fat ones (men). Even when the fat woman looks fantastic and has great hair, looks and clothes.

Lol re invisibility privilege. It is a conscious ignoring where you are braced for some fatty remark or made to feel grateful for any scraps (usually about your tits or my favourite that I got a lot in my teens/20s 'but such a pretty face')

I have been what now seems to be termed mid size (14/16) for a fair portion of my adult life with some years like now where I am fat. I am also short with boobs and an incredibly short waist. I hugely struggle to look good in clothes despite many years of trying. It makes me a bit sad actually. My tall husband and daughter look stylish in jeans and t shirts from primark.

We can all complain about being too thin or too fat, but at the end of the day it’s quite easily remediable if a person is not actually ill. It’s not a disability.

Not just skinny but tall as well. I'm currently trying to find an outfit for a wedding and it's almost impossible. The choice is severely limited if you're late 50's, size 14-16 (depending on style/brand) and 5'3". Most of the things I see would trail 3 feet behind me!

I disagree. Many, even most, women these days are overweight. Very few are tall and skinny. Young women in particular are typically much fatter than in previous generations. Yet I see loads who look anything but frumpy, and equally see thin women who do. Frumpy is not a body shape or size, it's a look. It's subjective I know, but to me certain clothing trends, shapeless calf length dresses, mom jeans, ugly sandals, most things from the shops beloved on MN, like Seasalt, fat face, etc are frumpy, whatever the size of the woman in them. A woman in great clothes that suit her will never look frumpy. It's not bothering at all, or at the other end of the scale, following the herd and wearing whatever is the current uniform that does it.

Why care about what designers tell you is 'fashion'? I'm short, generously built, age 75 and I've never bothered about 'fashion'. Ever. Charity shops do well for me plus occasional new clothes. Haven't worn a bra for years. Still wearing clothes several decades old.

Try being a man...I am in my 50s tall with a chest, arms legs in proportion, but carry wait on my tum.
Everything is slim fit in the shops at the moment. I have bought a new suit, some of the trousers which should fit my waist I can't get over my thighs.
No one over 20 looks good in slim fit, it just looks like you bought clothes too small or have put on tons of weight

That's an interesting perspective. I see lots of men about who are carrying weight around their waists - I think it's normal for men to be 'apples' whereas women are a mixture of apples and pears. It surprises me they aren't better catered for; although a lot of men seem to be wearing those knee-length shorts at the moment which probably have an elastic waist.

Since I've started following more body positive folk I have seen my visions literally changing. What eyes are we seeing thinner people look better through?eyes trained and taught to see this way.we dont have this but from growing up in a world that has made us view certain body types as good or bad and made us associate size and weight with health.whcih it doesn't.and even if it did we should still see worth in larger sizes.
And I no it's sounding all daft and la la la but I've seen my views shifting.a weird thing sometimes,wheb I see a really beautiful woman and my views on her beauty are totally different.

It's just not true to say that clothes always look best on skinny women. You mean slim rather than skinny, and most models actually have quite broad shoulders (wider than their hips) which make clothes hang better. I'm often referred to as skinny even though it's unintentional - I can't wear so many types of tops due to having a small chest, narrow shoulders and sticky out collar bones. (Also having scoliosis, many clothes just hang unevenly off my shoulders).