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Do you know that a man is not dead while his name is still spoken?

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Didactylos · 24/05/2022 23:42

No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away

YANBU - Truth! Freedom! Justice! and a hardboiled egg!
YABU - what are you talking about?

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DefiniteTortoise · 25/05/2022 10:04

In memoriam

Do you know that a man is not dead while his name is still spoken?
DefiniteTortoise · 25/05/2022 10:05

Argh, no idea why that is sideways!!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/05/2022 10:07

Wow, @DefiniteTortoise - want

weebarra · 25/05/2022 10:07

GNU STP

Pbbananabagel · 25/05/2022 10:10

@Antarcticant the trouble is the first couple of books in the series are no way near as good as the rest, when he was first building the world it was a bit buggy. Avoid The Colour Magic and The Light Fantastic until you’ve Gotten into the swing of things and then go back for them. The watch series is arguably the best of the best so Guards Guards! (Or if you like more female driven narratives the witches series that starts with Weird Sisters) is a great place to start, OR try one of the standalone’s like Small Gods.

VintageGibbon · 25/05/2022 10:12

MrOllivander · 24/05/2022 23:44

YANBU. I have the quote saved

I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time

I've never heard this. That's intriguing and sad at the same time.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 25/05/2022 10:13

My personal favourite is Witches Abroad, I think that's an easy one to start with.

Nanny0gg · 25/05/2022 10:17

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/05/2022 09:54

What a lovely thread.

Pratchett is under-rated. His writings on death and illness and ageing are beautiful.

My friend's daughter died yesterday, it was expected but devastating for many. I have spent months looking for a quote to send to my friend but nothing seems right. Kicking myself for not thinking of Sir T.

"No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away" is perfect. That kid caused ripples.

Sending a wee hug to those of us who found comfort in Granny Weatherwax and Mort.

So sorry.

Do you know that a man is not dead while his name is still spoken?
ancientgran · 25/05/2022 10:19

As a child I remember being told you have to let people go, mourning too long ties their spirit and they can't move on.

AvDemeisen · 25/05/2022 10:19

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BogRollBOGOF · 25/05/2022 10:22

Moonface123 · 25/05/2022 09:34

This is true, when somebody close to you dies, you don't stop loving them because they are no longer here, physically. You carry that love inside, it becomes part of your DNA, you have memories of them and speak about them to others, once there is no longer a voice, an echo, then they are gone.

My dad's been gone nearly 3x longer than I ever had him for, and well over 50% of how long he lived. There is still a spark of his soul in many hearts and remembered every time I say my son's name. My son carries forward the memory of another relative also gone too young who had no descendents of his own who deserved his memory to carry on forwards. My dad himself was named after two uncles who died in youth

I'm not familiar enough with the great Terry Pratchett, I adore the wit and wisdom of the great Douglas Adams though. And still miss Wake up to Wogan. I'm not sure if the podcast is still on BBC Sounds, but the programme based around a lost and found rare interview was most illuminating and contained much wisdom.

PearlclutchersInc · 25/05/2022 10:26

Too much pTerry

Crimesean · 25/05/2022 10:27

I'm wearing the lilac today.

Truth! Freedom! Justice! Reasonably-priced love! And a hard-boiled egg.

How do they rise up.

ancientgran · 25/05/2022 10:28

mynameisbrian · 25/05/2022 08:20

Interesting thread...i used to be happy in the knowledge we die and thats that. Its nice to think there may be an after life or heaven but thats just something to prevent us being terrified of death.

Although I did have that view challenged when my youngest became verbal. He told me consistently until he was around 4 or 5 that I was his new mum. Told a story of having a mum , dad and two brothers and living in a house in the woods and the soldiers came and shot them. He then came to me. Kept telling me i was his new mum. Doesnt know what I am talking about now when I mentioned it and he is 7

One of mine was like that but without the shooting but with the addition that he knew me when I was a child and that my behaviour as a child was nothing to be proud of, he said I was very naughty.

MichelleScarn · 25/05/2022 10:36

Crimesean · 25/05/2022 10:27

I'm wearing the lilac today.

Truth! Freedom! Justice! Reasonably-priced love! And a hard-boiled egg.

How do they rise up.

They rise knees up, knees up, knees up.

GNU Sir Pterry.

Worldgonecrazy · 25/05/2022 10:37

I truly believe that in a few hundred years Pratchett will be remembered as one of our greatest observers on human nature.

Minimalme · 25/05/2022 10:41

This is a bit dull to share but...there were only two people who loved me growing up, my Gran and a Great Uncle who died 13 years ago.

In the last two years I've worked out two completely new facts about him. I find it amazing that this lovely man who cared about me when no one else did is still managing to communicate with me.

Look up Uncle Harry

Crimesean · 25/05/2022 10:42

“That's a nice song," said young Sam, and Vimes remembered that he was hearing it for the first time.
"It's an old soldiers' song," he said.
"Really, sarge? But it's about angels."
Yes, thought Vimes, and it's amazing what bits those angels cause to rise up as the song progresses. It's a real soldiers' song: sentimental, with dirty bits.
"As I recall, they used to sing it after battles," he said. "I've seen old men cry when they sing it," he added.
"Why? It sounds cheerful."
They were remembering who they were not singing it with, thought Vimes. You'll learn. I know you will.

Dyra · 25/05/2022 10:44

Antarcticant · 25/05/2022 09:38

Then I suggest they start.

I really have tried with them - my husband is a huge fan and has most if not all the books - but I just couldn't 'get into' them - didn't find them readable for whatever the intangible reason is that makes some books readable for me and others not, regardless of whether they are popular or obscure.

At least you've tried, which is a far better thing than having never bothered like many others here.

I can relate though. I'm a huge fantasy lover, but I cannot get into Wheel of Time or Dresden Files. They should both be right up my alley. But nope.

GNU Sir Terry, and all who have gone before us.

Thud! Is my favourite. It hit hard even before I became a parent. Now.....

babymidgetgem · 25/05/2022 10:45

Vebrithien · 25/05/2022 06:55

GNU PTerry

I shall wear Lilac today.

I too, have not read the Shepherd's Crown. I don't want to be in a world where there is no more Pratchett books left to read.

I'll pop a copy of The Truth in my handbag, for a lunch read.

I have it, but can't quite bring myself to read it.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 25/05/2022 10:45

Worldgonecrazy · 25/05/2022 10:37

I truly believe that in a few hundred years Pratchett will be remembered as one of our greatest observers on human nature.

Absolutely. He also writes beautifully - the man crafted language beautifully. I can re-read and re-read Pratchett in a way that I think is most similar to Dickens. His writing never gets old or tired.

"The great Terry Pratchett, whose with is metaphysical, who creates an energetic and lively secondary world, who has multifarious genius for strong parody... who deals with death with startling originality. Who writes amazing sentences." - A.S. Byatt. (Novelist, poet, Booker Prize winner.)

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 25/05/2022 10:47

Bollocking auto correct. 'Whose wit is metaphysical'

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 10:47

I think being remembered and living are different. My dad isn't 'with' me in any shape or form much as I wish he was. He's long gone and anything he said or did is then not now. He doesn't know he has grandchildren, he doesn't know I got married, he doesn't even know I passed my A levels or got safely home the last time I saw him in hospital.

Pthagonal · 25/05/2022 10:53

GNU STP

I am wearing my lilac toga in tribute. That is not my cow though, it goes neigh.

Some of you may like this. www.discwordle.com

Chemenger · 25/05/2022 11:04

I have only read half of The Shepherd's Crown, that way there is always something left to read.

I got Discwordle in one!