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Insta post re Britney Spears

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confuzedd · 22/05/2022 07:25

The latest post on her instagram is a two minute video of her impersonating her therapist and I can't quite tell if it is genius (kind of comedy genius but then it is so traumatic that I'm not sure we should see it as a joke) or if it is something else.

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NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 07:36

Just goes to show that forcing someone to have psychotherapy doesn't work! In fact it's counter productive.

Sponge19 · 22/05/2022 07:37

There’s nothing genius about it. If you think that’s genius, you need to have your own head tested! At this point she is chronically unwell with a severe and enduring mental illness. It’s really sad

Sponge19 · 22/05/2022 07:40

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 07:36

Just goes to show that forcing someone to have psychotherapy doesn't work! In fact it's counter productive.

Not true in the majority of cases though certainly appears to be in hers. It’s fairly evident at this point that she is beyond help

RubyJam · 22/05/2022 07:40

Oh dear , I’ve just watched it , she has lost the plot.

What is going on in her life …

Ive followed her insta for a while and all the long rambling screenshot statements along with full naked photos is just extremely concerning.

I really feel sorry for her

Sam is using her and she is being completely rinsed.

Hes getting plenty of free holidays and obviously complicit in filming all these weird videos.

Something is not right mentally with her.

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 07:45

Sponge19 · 22/05/2022 07:40

Not true in the majority of cases though certainly appears to be in hers. It’s fairly evident at this point that she is beyond help

No. There's no such thing as beyond help and you honestly can't make someone change if they don't want to.

Sharrowgirl · 22/05/2022 07:46

I thought it was quite a funny takedown of therapists actually, in the beginning. But towards the end it all went mad and now I don’t know what to think.

Poor woman, what a life she’s had.

Bananarama21 · 22/05/2022 07:46

I couldn't finish watching it, just car crash. I could see Britney dying young like marylin monroe.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2022 07:46

Can we PLEASE stop pathologising her? She has been under state sanctioned coercive control and abuse for 13 years. Her behaviour isnt "mental illness" it's a reaction to trauma. And what caused it? A haircut. And lashing out at a photographer.

DashboardConfessional · 22/05/2022 07:52

Sharrowgirl · 22/05/2022 07:46

I thought it was quite a funny takedown of therapists actually, in the beginning. But towards the end it all went mad and now I don’t know what to think.

Poor woman, what a life she’s had.

This is my take. It started out, I thought it was quite a witty takedown, and then she started bellowing "TWISTER!" and lost me.

RubyJam · 22/05/2022 07:55

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2022 07:46

Can we PLEASE stop pathologising her? She has been under state sanctioned coercive control and abuse for 13 years. Her behaviour isnt "mental illness" it's a reaction to trauma. And what caused it? A haircut. And lashing out at a photographer.

How do you know it was “ state sanctioned abuse “

To be honest , everything she’s been posting in the last few months points towards the conservatorship being 100% the correct thing for her.

She does seem mentally unwell and poorly guided.

If I was like this would I expect my husband to just stand there and film me and let me post naked shots - No ! He would be concerned and try to guide me and get me some help.

Seems she has no help at all now.
Its went from full control to zero and look what’s happening …

Sparklingbrook · 22/05/2022 07:55

I can’t even look any more. Makes me wonder where it’s all going to end. Her children-are they watching it all?

coffeecupsandfairylights · 22/05/2022 07:56

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2022 07:46

Can we PLEASE stop pathologising her? She has been under state sanctioned coercive control and abuse for 13 years. Her behaviour isnt "mental illness" it's a reaction to trauma. And what caused it? A haircut. And lashing out at a photographer.

Exactly.

If any of us had been under such control and abuse for the past decade, we wouldn't be acting normally either!

Sponge19 · 22/05/2022 07:57

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 07:45

No. There's no such thing as beyond help and you honestly can't make someone change if they don't want to.

You’re wrong. I’m a mental health nurse. There certainly is a thing as being beyond help in some cases

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 08:00

Sponge19 · 22/05/2022 07:57

You’re wrong. I’m a mental health nurse. There certainly is a thing as being beyond help in some cases

Well that’s a disappointing opinion. I too am a MHP. I’ve seen far worse and she’s far too young with far too much recent abuse to write off.

Mif4 · 22/05/2022 08:13

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Mrpunchisagit · 22/05/2022 08:14

I also thought it started well and was going to be a witty take down but then it went somewhere very odd. She seemed almost manic.

im really surprised at anyone trying to Diagnose her,” oh she’s not Ill it’s trauma” when the rest of the world is starting to realise she’s really unwell.

I feel very sorry and concerned for her, as I think it’s becoming very apparent she’s been left without the support network she needs and she is likely now at risk.

nolongersurprised · 22/05/2022 08:18

I think people are actually quite attuned to when something is “off” with others. People can justify it as satire or a trauma response or whatever but she looks mentally unwell to me as well.

This is not me criticising, or “hating” on her or thinking she should be back under a conservatorship. I hope someone is looking out for her and has her best interests in mind and she has good psychiatric care.

DashboardConfessional · 22/05/2022 08:18

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What do you mean by "celebrity mums"? I don't think a maternity shoot for a magazine is the same as posting a naked iPhone photo on your social media the week after a miscarriage.

Lazerbeen · 22/05/2022 08:18

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 08:00

Well that’s a disappointing opinion. I too am a MHP. I’ve seen far worse and she’s far too young with far too much recent abuse to write off.

Just like physical illness, for some mental illness is not something that can be 'cured' or adequately treated to the point the person can live what would be considered a 'normal' life- surely you know this as a MHP, and that just like throwing lots of medical interventions at someone can be counterproductive and harmful, the same is the case in mental health. Not saying this is the case for Britney as we just see snapshots of what someone/she decides to share (possibly for attention, possibly genuine who knows); but it's very naive.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2022 08:20

How do I know it was state sanctioned abuse? By the legal system placing her under a conservatorship which removed all her agency over her person and estate WITHOUT the proper fucking paperwork! Conservatorships are meant for people who cannot look after themselves, not someone who is still able to work, do a 4 year stint at Vegas and be on xfactor. She couldnt even make decisions about her own body.

Id recommend listening to Toxic the Britney Spears story and also Crime analyst.

RubyJam · 22/05/2022 08:23

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2022 08:20

How do I know it was state sanctioned abuse? By the legal system placing her under a conservatorship which removed all her agency over her person and estate WITHOUT the proper fucking paperwork! Conservatorships are meant for people who cannot look after themselves, not someone who is still able to work, do a 4 year stint at Vegas and be on xfactor. She couldnt even make decisions about her own body.

Id recommend listening to Toxic the Britney Spears story and also Crime analyst.

You have completely misunderstood my question.

I am fully aware it was state sanctioned
What is not fully evident however , is that it was “ abuse “ .
It’s quite clear from her declining mental health and manic episodes on social media that the conservatorship was very much needed.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 22/05/2022 08:38

It’s quite clear from her declining mental health and manic episodes on social media that the conservatorship was very much needed.

Or maybe her behaviour is a traumatised reaction to being heavily medicated and under state-sanctioned control for the past decade?

NutellaEllaElla · 22/05/2022 08:39

Lazerbeen · 22/05/2022 08:18

Just like physical illness, for some mental illness is not something that can be 'cured' or adequately treated to the point the person can live what would be considered a 'normal' life- surely you know this as a MHP, and that just like throwing lots of medical interventions at someone can be counterproductive and harmful, the same is the case in mental health. Not saying this is the case for Britney as we just see snapshots of what someone/she decides to share (possibly for attention, possibly genuine who knows); but it's very naive.

well given that my first post on this thread was to say that you can’t force therapy on someone I’d say yes I very well understand that. Doesn’t mean she is beyond help whatever that looks like and whenever is the right time for her. I never said anything about “curing” her either.

RitaFires · 22/05/2022 08:49

Britney needs support, but she was silenced for so long that sharing her thoughts with people must be very important to her. It was the campaigning of her fans that led to her being released so she feels very grateful to them, is that necessarily healthy? Probably not but she has a lot to work through so her posting weird stuff is to be expected.

The conservatorship was unjust and abusive, nobody else in her legal position was ever forced to work let alone perform on stage like she was. They recorded an album under her name that was mostly sung by someone else because they felt she wasn't compliant enough with their demands. She was punished for being unhappy in rehearsals by being involuntarily committed. A lot of her money has mysteriously gone missing leaving her poorer than many of her peers who have not toured nearly as much as she has.

People with mental health issues are allowed to live their lives and use social media. Obviously Britney has a lot going on but it sickens me that so many people seem to think locking her up and throwing away the key is the answer.

Mrpunchisagit · 22/05/2022 08:51

coffeecupsandfairylights · 22/05/2022 08:38

It’s quite clear from her declining mental health and manic episodes on social media that the conservatorship was very much needed.

Or maybe her behaviour is a traumatised reaction to being heavily medicated and under state-sanctioned control for the past decade?

For her sake I hope so, because if it’s not, and she is very mentally unwell and needed the conservatorship then she is now at huge risk.

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