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High earners - how do you spend your salary?

988 replies

Citygirly · 21/05/2022 10:03

DH and I earn just under £140k combined.

We do maximum pension payments (his is 9% as NHS) and we also give about 10% a month to charity.

Other than that, we plan to start overpaying the mortgage. We invest £1k a month (so £500 each) and save £1k for holidays. We of course do general/specific savings but then have a good chunk left over for disposable income.

AIBU to ask other high earning households how they tend to allocate their money? Just want to see if we could be using it better or this is about right for comparables.

OP posts:
CockSpadget · 22/05/2022 11:42

@burnoutbabe have you really just compared a problem where someone has fallen out with their mum, to someone who's problem is having more money than they know what to do with.
Yeah, ok.

Topgub · 22/05/2022 11:43

@Katypp

So you think extra qualifications are worth the extra money rather than job role /worth to society?

An ANP (band 7) will have extra qualifications (masters, prescribing). Top of a band 7 isn't 85k. Its around half that.

Google tells me the average for a lawyer is 70k.

More than double the average wage for a nurse

C8H10N4O2 · 22/05/2022 11:44

Citygirly · 22/05/2022 11:24

@C8H10N4O2 how do you propose that I raise this topic with my peers at work who are just my colleagues and definitely not friends? People are happy to talk about holidays and staycations and recommendations for those but they definitely do not discuss the cost.

So they talk about holidays, trips and outings and you can't work out the likely costs? Or you could simply ask.

When I was your age rent, mortgages, living costs, nursery costs, wedding costs, holiday costs were all pretty hot topics both at work and with friends. Amongst peers so were investments as I work in a high paying sector. This also had the advantage of knowing the likely reality rather than asking randoms on the internet.

My kids are at the same stage and also discuss these things with friends and peers.

You can also pay for financial advice and future planning which has the advantage of being qualified and experienced, also something you won't find in randoms on the internet.

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 11:44

Merryclaire · 22/05/2022 11:35

@lancsgirl85 if you took a poll of the general population of who was being a bigger dick - the person who told us all they are sad because they can’t afford to buy food, or the person who said that person was a dick for making rich people feel bad, I think we know which way it would go!

Yep!

RosesAndHellebores · 22/05/2022 11:45

We had paid off our mortgage by 2005. Because I experienced interest rates at 15% in 1990/91 and prior to that regularly 12%. Our home has always been as safeguarded as possible despite high earnings.

Inflation hit 9% on Friday. Interests rates will move relatively swiftly. As they go up, property values go down.

Nobody where I work is aware of DH's job, or of our finances. I dress appropriately for my senior role in a casual environment. I wouldn’t take a £100 handbag to work or wear a tank.

Merryclaire · 22/05/2022 11:46

@burnoutbabe no, it is adding some perspective to the thread. Not being able to buy food is a real problem and we should all try to have empathy for that person.
The reality is, most people don’t think that the question of how to spend excessive disposable income is actually a problem. And clearly a number of people think presenting it as one in the current climate is a bit insensitive.
Having an irreparable argument with your mum is a genuine problem, so I don’t see how the two are comparable.
We all need a perspective adjustment sometimes.

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:47

I wouldn’t take a £100 handbag to work or wear a tank.

What's wrong with a £100 handbag?

SofiaSoFar · 22/05/2022 11:49

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 10:53

@Katypp

Also, your specific example isn't comparable at all. A high earner posting on a thread about someone struggling to buy bread and coffee contributing: "I can't help because i have plenty of money, thanks", would be very rightly ripped to pieces because what purpose is there to that other than to smugly run someone's face in it who is less fortunate? It would clearly be motivated by being a total twat. Whereas, someone struggling for money coming onto a thread about high earners and saying "this makes me sad as I can't even afford bread today" - that's very clearly not motivated by being a dick, is it? Not aimed at rubbing anyone's face in it, is it? It's just an expression of sadness about their own situation where they are in poverty and others are clearly very well off.

I know which poster I'd have sympathy for and which one I'd be heavily rolling my eyes at.

But what response do you expect to the loaf of bread comment?

What can the high earners say? What should they say?

RosesAndHellebores · 22/05/2022 11:49

@workintums absolutely nothing and I have several but at work I blend.

CaliforniaDrumming · 22/05/2022 11:49

Citygirly · 22/05/2022 11:24

@C8H10N4O2 how do you propose that I raise this topic with my peers at work who are just my colleagues and definitely not friends? People are happy to talk about holidays and staycations and recommendations for those but they definitely do not discuss the cost.

Don't ever talk to even your close friends about money. Makes for envy and resentment in this climate. We have a financial advisor and she is the only person who knows what we earn ( except MN!).

The poster who asks why people are saving, there is a massive recession coming. Worse than 2008. Layoffs have begun at DH's workplace and I expect my work to be affected too. High earning jobs also tend to be very volatile.

Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:50

@SofiaSoFar exactly, hence my virtue signalling comment

Nothappyatwork · 22/05/2022 11:51

CaliforniaDrumming · 22/05/2022 11:49

Don't ever talk to even your close friends about money. Makes for envy and resentment in this climate. We have a financial advisor and she is the only person who knows what we earn ( except MN!).

The poster who asks why people are saving, there is a massive recession coming. Worse than 2008. Layoffs have begun at DH's workplace and I expect my work to be affected too. High earning jobs also tend to be very volatile.

I don’t suppose he’s a data architect by any chance is he ? I could have him a new job by lunchtime.

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:52

@RosesAndHellebores I just don't think a £100 bag is a sign of anything, it's quite different from a 3k plus watch. Can you even buy a good quality leather bag on the high street for that these days? my fabric rucksack was about £60

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:53

Don't ever talk to even your close friends about money.

I do think it's harder these days, everyone can see what you paid for your house for one.

CaliforniaDrumming · 22/05/2022 11:54

Nothappyatwork · 22/05/2022 11:51

I don’t suppose he’s a data architect by any chance is he ? I could have him a new job by lunchtime.

No :) but thank you.

Robinni · 22/05/2022 11:54

Katypp · 22/05/2022 10:14

This kind of thread always goes the same way. Despite the fact most of MN seems to be high earners, most of MN seems to hate high earners.
I am sick of every thread being hijacked by well-meaning virtue signallers talking about those who can't afford to buy a loaf of bread. The OP can - so what?
I am not a high earner, but I don't hate those who are and I don't think being a high earner means posters have a free pass to be as unpleasant and snarky and spiteful as they want to them.
And one last thing - LOL at the reference upthread implying teachers and nurses are low earners. The unions have done a great job to brainwash people into thinking this. For info, a newly-qualified teacher starts on nearly £26k and a newly-qualified nurse starts on just under £25k. Both can rise to a lot more. There are plenty of professions which need a degree and training - mine included - that start on less than that, so spare your sympathy for those people not the 'poor' teachers and nurses so often trotted out.

@Katypp for a teacher you’re talking starting salary circa 25k, max salary for a head would be 120k.

For someone in finance, a starting salary could be 90k with fantastical salaries up to 500k+

Not saying that teachers or nurses are not well off. But that hard work does not have an equal outcome.

The amount earned is dictated by the profession pursued and the ability for an individual to access education/money to start a business etc. in the first place.

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:59

for a teacher you’re talking starting salary circa 25k, max salary for a head would be 120k.

I thought it was 32k for a london teacher

workintums · 22/05/2022 12:02

For someone in finance, a starting salary could be 90k with fantastical salaries up to 500k+

Even in London there aren't hundreds of thousands of people on 500k plus.

Oscarthedog · 22/05/2022 12:05

The bitterness to those who have gone out to work and earn good money is staggering on here. We should be celebrating the op who is obviously paying tax so the lower earners don't have to. Well done @Citygirly and all the other successful women on here. I am lucky I have 2 sisters both on decent money one earns more than me and one about 2/3 but all are well in the top 10% of earners. We can discuss this others might not be so lucky and I as the oldest and first to get there relied on a forum (not this one thankfully) to seek advice on high earning tax efficiency and spending.

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 12:06

@SofiaSoFar

I don't "expect" any response, my point was that you cannot compare the motives and intent of^^ someone coming on a thread like this to comment on not being able to afford bread, and the motives and intent of a high earner going on a poverty thread to say "I can't help, I have plenty of money". That was my point with that comment. The two are not comparable.

One is clearly expressing sadness and frustration at one's situation relative to others', the other is being a first class dick.

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 12:08

What can the high earners say? What should they say?

Well I'm not "high earner" by these standards, I'm somewhere in the comfortable middle I guess. And my own response was to feel sad for another person's suffering and to express that. I mean, it's just empathy that comes naturally. I guess we aren't all that way, so if you need a script for what to say someone less fortunate than you, then I can't help I'm afraid,

Topgub · 22/05/2022 12:09

@Oscarthedog

Is being a higher earner the only measure of hard work and success?

Bit of a contradiction to praise the op for paying tax so the lower earners dont have to (wtf?!) and then advice she finds out how to be 'tax efficient' (ie avoid asucj tax as possible. Something lower earners don't have the luxury of

Robinni · 22/05/2022 12:10

Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:04

@lancsgirl85 but there's no point to either post on either thread is there? The posts from those struggling on threads like this are clearly plopped in to make the poster and others in the same position feel shit. So I would be open to the possibility that they were being a dick, actually.

@Topgub But those who enter nursing can earn a lot more too. Many in the professions I mentioned above will not progress much either. In every job, there's those who will reach the top or middle and earn well and there is those who don't for many reasons. Why is nursing so different and worthy of special sympathy?

@Katypp Omg, because nurses are the ones who wipe your backside in hospital. They’re the ones who give you a bed bath after surgery. They’re the ones who use a catheter to help you pee so your bladder doesn’t explode. They hold your hand when you’re frightened. And they have a vast knowledge base and generally hold shit together when it goes tits up…. Much more so than those higher qualified who don’t have the time to spend, or frankly the people skills.

That is why nurses get a special focus they have a huge responsibility and are essential, but underpaid for what they do. Many stay grade 5-6 and don’t progress because the higher paying roles are few and far between.

NohoHank · 22/05/2022 12:19

Oscarthedog · 22/05/2022 12:05

The bitterness to those who have gone out to work and earn good money is staggering on here. We should be celebrating the op who is obviously paying tax so the lower earners don't have to. Well done @Citygirly and all the other successful women on here. I am lucky I have 2 sisters both on decent money one earns more than me and one about 2/3 but all are well in the top 10% of earners. We can discuss this others might not be so lucky and I as the oldest and first to get there relied on a forum (not this one thankfully) to seek advice on high earning tax efficiency and spending.

Hahah your post is hilarious! I can't tell if it's satire or if you're actually being serious.

Lovemyheathershimmer · 22/05/2022 12:43

The person who originally posted this knew fine well she was going to cause controversy, that’s why it was posted. Bragging about your wealth is vulgar. Have a little respect on folk that are struggling to feed their families. Also it bugs me folk on high incomes keep harping on about they made it by working hard! Wtf millions of folk on low and minimum wage jobs work hard for their wages. Nurses, teachers, bin men, care assistants. They prob work harder than any of you high earners ever know. I’m logging out of this thread.

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