Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.

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AIBU to hope for a libel trial as entertaining as Vardy v Rooney and an outcome that rivals the Katy Hopkins debacle?

Buying a tin of beans and immediately throwing away up to a third of the contents is extremely poor food management whatever way you look at it

A 400g tin of haricot beans from Tesco costs 60p, and contains 235g of beans. Do you have any suggestions as to what to do with the 165g of liquid?

A tin of Stockwell baked beans costs 22p. Why is it better to buy a tin of 60p beans and dump the liquid (fairly sure you wouldn't complain about that), than buy a tin of 22p beans in sauce that you don't want/like and do the same?

She also said that trans women are women and that anyone who thought she was not a woman was an idiot, as she has large breasts.

She is at best confused, but in my view just someone who will say whatever she things is best for her at any point in time, consistent or not with what she’s said before.

They have hugely increased the minimum wage and the tax-free allowance, while removing the entire allowance from higher earners, increasing income tax on higher earners, and stopping them from funding their pensions.

This narrative that they have helped higher earners while harming lower earners is disproven by the facts.

She also said that trans women are women and that anyone who thought she was not a woman was an idiot, as she has large breasts.

She is a woman. She was mocking those who thought she shouldn't accept a woman's award because she was considering transition and felt NB.

She's been very cagey on the TWAW thing since then, I think she's either changed her thinking (she certainly never thought that was literally true from her other statements about women) or decided TWAW will piss off her working class market.

Is it she or he or they or has Jack completely jumped off that unprofitable bandwagon?

She's a she now and has been for some time.

While I agree that a lot of what she says is suspect her claim to suffer from GD and her recovery from it has the ring of verisimilitude given the evolution of her presentation, the age of onset, the fact she's gay and her unfortunate early history with men.

Can’t be a very good qualification if you don’t understand defamation.

It is only defamatory if it is untrue. It is not current,y known if it’s untrue.

The interview I heard with her on this index was appalling. She was completely unable to understand that you can’t base an index on what her own, single, local branch of a supermarket in a very nice part of town is selling.

Her excuse for only looking at her own local shop was that poor people can’t travel very far.

That fact is true; very few can afford to travel to her local shop in a nice part of her town, so how can she possibly think that that can be used as the basis for any sort of index?

That’s not a “move”, the ONS has always been completely familiar with the idea that different people have a different personal rate of inflation.

Melissa (let’s stop playing along with her name games) seems to have done little about publishing her own index, as she promised to do, after her normal bit of self-publicism.

@Sorrynotsorryyeah Yes I do realise it's not all personal income by a long way, but £222,000 is going some. Even if you had a staff person in your constituency and one at Westminster..most MPs have this combination. Even if we take expenses out the equation he is paid by the state, she isn't. Both utter attention seekers- in different ways. She is annoying , but actually relatively harmless, he though is part of a gvt that are anything but harmless.

She's been very cagey on the TWAW thing since then, I think she's either changed her thinking (she certainly never thought that was literally true from her other statements about women) or decided TWAW will piss off her working class market

That's not strictly true, but you wouldn't know it from her feed. She posted something recently about how when she first came to prominence, she was compared a lot to JK Rowling (actual fucking lol) and how it wasn't a compliment and she's non binary AND trans and TWAW and they are who they say they are, and people should believe kids are trans if that's what they say blah, blah, blah. I think she was expecting to be lauded to the high heavens and for the post to go viral but what actually happened was a lot of GC accounts (politely) told her she was talking bollocks. So the post disappeared, because if there's one thing you can't say about Monroe it's that she has the courage of her convictions.

He’s not in the government.

If you don’t like how his food bank operates have you decided to run yours differently?

It’d be hypocritical in the extreme for you to complain about his if you’ve not bothered yourself to even try to set one up and run it to show him how it ought to be done.

Maybe Melissa could. That’d be helpful.

So we can add utter ignorance of nutrition to her list of achievements.

Is Lee Anderson saying he set this one up? I couldn't see anything about that but only had a quick skim.

Also does anyone know have we found out yet whether the referral is actually compulsory like he said in Parliament, or not like has been said on here?

Melissa (let’s stop playing along with her name games) seems to have done little about publishing her own index, as she promised to do, after her normal bit of self-publicism.

@SamReiver If your posts are reported they will get pulled. If you keep at it you'll likely get a strike. If multiple people deadname her the thread will be deleted. She's changed her name legally; nothing wrong with people not liking their name.

I'm not telling you off or reporting you, just warning that JM threads are very harshly policed on MN.

Deadname? She’s not changed sex, the name change seems to have been very much about pretending to not be from a well-off family.

Nice but if indignation to deflect from the point though; where is the index?

Nice but if indignation to deflect from the point though; where is the index?

Its not any indignation, see my other posts on here for my opinion of her.

I'm just explaining how MNHQ will see it. Feel free to ignore but they may ban you if get reported. I've had strikes for purely factual statements about her on previous threads.

Very few threads criticising JM survive.

Literally nothing about donquixotedelamancha's statement above mentioned sex. It's a legal name change. I fucking hate JM's work and stage persona too, but deadnaming is just crude and unnecessary.

If you need help thinking about it, imagine how women feel when they get mis-named after changing surnames after a divorce. Nobody accuses them of being snowflakes or whatever.

Nice bit of incongruous Trans Panic to deflect from... literally everything.

Yes, I'm surprised this one is still up as well. And I agree there's no need to call her any name other than Jack. She's refers to herself as a woman these days and has said that she/they pronouns are fine, so I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make @SamReiver Jack is her legal name, it's what she's known as, so I've no idea why you repeatedly keep calling her something else.

Yeah you do sound ridiculous not using someone's actual name. I'm gender critical, but names are different. It's also going to detract from any legitimate criticisms people have to offer. Adults changing their names is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Someone is really trying to get this thread zapped. Hmmm....

Fair point.

A writer has worked out that Jack is bringing in a minimum of £30k a year from Patreon. That’s at a MINIMUM.

Time to drop the poverty act Jack.

I remember that post very clearly. The tweet disappeared within minutes which she then tweeted to claim had been removed by Twitter because it had been mass reported by GC accounts. Despite the deleted tweet very clearly showing the message “this tweet is no longer available as it has been deleted by the author”. The woman’s an idiot.

Because the tories are the government and when they say it they're basically making excuses for their policies and using at an excuse to say that they don't need to do anything more to combat poverty (I.e. poor people just need to be more savvy). When Monroe says it, she has no power to make wider policy changes that might help combat poverty (other than lobbying government). Do ypu genuinely not see the difference?
Monroe doesn't make the rule, just helps people live within the system they're in. The tories make the rules...