Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.

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AIBU to hope for a libel trial as entertaining as Vardy v Rooney and an outcome that rivals the Katy Hopkins debacle?

I've read her background.

It sounds like she ran into severe financial trouble during her life and struggled with debt and providing for her child.

Do you agree with that?

But that’s the issue.

Lee Anderson, it appears, has far more experience with actual poverty that JM.

JM poverty was a choice. Which means it not poverty.

Her father is has loads of property. They are, by most peoples standards, a wealthy family. Who have done massive amounts for children who need help.

I don’t like LA or JM, but saying she has a better idea of living in poverty than someone who grew up in it and lived it for years, is incorrect. Even if it turns out his background is also spin, she still doesn’t have the experience she claims to. In that case they would be coming at it from the same position. One of privilege.

Jack Monroe has a solicitor who works pro bono

Yes I’d also like to see her Vimes Boots Index, if the person who mentioned it could give us a link to it, that’d be great, because up to now I’ve been unable to find it .

Thanks.

Lee Anderson like most of his ilk from that type of background will just say what he sees without prejudice. Might not be tactful, but working down a mine, working for the CAB, I think he has far more direct and indirect experience of the real problems people may face.

Monroe on the other hand is masquerading and indulging in competitive poverty with this identity they have created for themselves.
It's all a bit Punch and Judy, it's a game, and people have fallen for it.

Food poverty is only one aspect of poverty. I would argue that high rent is equally if not more crippling. Jack never mentions this because it might draw attention to the fact that her family are landlords who own at least 12 properties and her grandad made a good living from benefit claimants in his rundown hotel. You can't believe her claims to be poor or working class in the light of this. And she does claim it, right up to the present day.

Spending 20 hours a day on Twitter is not work.

The Vimes Boots Index doesn't exist.

She is a dreadful cook with no grasp of the basics after 10 years.

She grifts from the poor and sucks up to famous people.

None of the above is untrue or libellous.

Lee Anderson, it appears, has far more experience with actual poverty that JM.
JM poverty was a choice. Which means it not poverty

What makes you think her poverty was a choice?

There’s only so many times people can tell you to read the thread, rather than expecting people to write out the same things again and again.

The questions you ask with faux naivety whilst ignoring every counter point made to you is quite boring.

WarnerSisters · 15/05/2022 19:22

Please, supporters of JM, what has she done for those in poverty?

Her meals are inefficient and wasteful, don’t taste good and rely on odd combinations that show a real lack of understanding for the massive proportion of the world who live on cheap ingredients to make good tasting, healthy and filling meals”

this. Most of the recipes are awful.

I haven’t read the whole thread, but I ‘met’ JM in a bar in Edinburgh. I was with a friend and we were drinking a probably overpriced fancy cocktail and enjoying the luxurious surroundings. JM decided that we were hideously pompous, disgraceful right wing ‘rich twats’ for our choice of drink and by our appearance and gave us an absolute earful about being in this overpriced bar, full of absolute posh, rich wankers that she herself had set up camp in. We left shortly afterwards. I actually had tickets to see her talk at the Edinburgh book festival that week, but couldn’t stomach the hypocrisy, so I didn’t go to her show. Which was a shame as when my children were small, her (free) recipes on her website were invaluable to me as there wasn’t much left from my husbands salary and maternity leave pay. My circumstances improved for the better - as did hers - but why she felt it was ok to shout and swear at others in the same bar as her is beyond me.

He hasn't worked down a mine.

That's Jack rumbled then 😆

When you’re part of the government responsible for soaring poverty through shoddy management (and also claiming expenses!) saying “people just don’t know how to budget and cook” is not okay.

Nonsense arguments don't help anyone. Claiming expenses! Is not the reason for soaring poverty.

@LoosyGoosie post may interest you. Educate yourself before spouting nonsense.

@TwinklingFairyLights I understand that my wording might have been confusing there- I'm not claiming that expenses is the reason for poverty. Im saying that if you’re part of the government responsible for poverty and you claim expenses- it’s a bad look to suggest poor people are just shit with money.

You posted that claiming expenses is one of the reasons for spearing poverty?

@TwinklingFairyLights Once again, I understand it was poorly worded and I don’t blame you for the conclusion you came to, but I literally just explained what I actually meant.

Let’s get back to basics.

Jack is a good and CREATIVE writer who is very economical with the truth when it suits her. This has always been true and her blogs even back in the day had an air of “I am making this up” about them.

Jack made claims she was donating her winnings from the KH case to charity. She didn’t , I doubt there was much left after expenses. She bought a naice sofa (she has posted herself about this).

The Judge in the KH case gave her a rollicking about her Twitter behaviour in the lead up to the case and about the multiple deletions. JM won the case because she was correct and what KH said was horrible, it was the right judgement and KH didn’t bother turning up to defend herself.

Jack had one visit to a food bank and blogged about it. At this point her family pitched up with food, money and help because they hadn’t realised she was struggling OR because the fact she was struggling at that point would reflect badly on them.

Jack has been dining out on this ever since. Rattling her tip jar, bringing in more than the average worker receives. She has had several lucrative TV and advertising gigs as well. Don’t mention the Linda MaCartney job though as she and they were eaten alive the the vegan community and rightly so.

And she lost her job with Sainsbury's for a horrible tweet about David Cameron’s dead son. She earned more than the basic wage for this and she didn’t donate the rest to charity.

Read up before accepting what she says. She wouldn’t know the truth if it bit her on the arse.

The current problem with JM is she still frequently posts on Twitter that she has no money, she’s struggling to pay her rent, struggling to buy food, and all she dreams of is a little home for her and her small child. So people, many who don’t have that much themselves, send her money.

She even suggested she doesn’t earn enough to pay tax. All whilst renting a huge house in an expensive part of the U.K. and taking in thousands from a Patreon alone. Nothing ever adds up.

A court case would be terrible for her if they exposed her actual earnings. All those poor people sending her money because they think she has nothing whilst living off a very healthy income. It’s disgraceful.

Why did she change her name? I have read something about her saying she is a "jack of all trades" which may explain the switch from Melissa. Did she ditch the surname so it wouldn't connect her to her well-known and not hard up family?

@cakeorwine she comes from a wealthy, supportive family and the father of her child is comfortably well off. She was determined that she wanted to support herself entirely despite this, even claiming to have turned to prostitution to feed herself. One of the things she claims she had to sell during her poverty years in order to support herself (as well as the same phone which she claimed she sold multiple times at various points) was a watch given to her for her 18th birthday by her parents and was worth several thousand pounds. I don’t deny she may have lived through poverty but it certainly appears that she did it out of choice to some degree.

And also - if she has really only used a food bank once, then she's being economical with the truth on her Twitter bio as the very first thing in the description says "Former foodbank user". Which implies regularity.

This is the equivalent of putting fingers in the ears and going 'nah nah nah nah' isn't it?

Well, according to sources he worked at a colliery in Nottinghamshire. I'm not going to get into an argument about how deep he went, or how many pieces of coal he picked. Apparently, the whole family has a history in the industry.

Coal miners were thought of as salt of the earth, the very definition of the working class and whom the Labour party represented.

Jack Monroe is a Walter Mitty.