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To think that televising the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp case is harmful to DV victims?

111 replies

Thorilicious · 07/05/2022 08:03

I know it's America, and it's the done thing.

However, the majority of the public have already decided that's she's lying, and we're not even halfway through the case.

Whatever you believe, there will be some DV victims who are even more afraid to come forward, due to opinions about this trial.
AIBU to think that such a high profile case should have been tried behind closed doors?

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Enough4me · 08/05/2022 15:37

I believe they were both abusive, but the court case is all about Depp trying to keep the abuse going. She wouldn't be there except for him aiming to publicly destroy her.

It's awful for DV victims as shows that if an abuser is rich they can employ the best team and continue to abuse their ex-partner and there is no way around it. If the rich person has lots of friends, the victim is publicly hated and vilified.

The abuser turns up to court with adoring fans high fiving them and cheers, then gets to smirk and laugh through their appearance. The system allows a rich person to run a show of humiliation and many are happy to watch.

SunscreenCentral · 08/05/2022 15:38

It's a civil (and not criminal) case. Depp wanted people to see, and they have. It's a pity the inadmissible recordings (where she admits cutting him) can't be included (due to multiple voices) but there we are.
I believe him.

knowinglesseveryday · 08/05/2022 15:38

They're both nauseous and should shut up, and the media should stop publishing about it.

Midlifemusings · 08/05/2022 15:51

Enough4me · 08/05/2022 15:37

I believe they were both abusive, but the court case is all about Depp trying to keep the abuse going. She wouldn't be there except for him aiming to publicly destroy her.

It's awful for DV victims as shows that if an abuser is rich they can employ the best team and continue to abuse their ex-partner and there is no way around it. If the rich person has lots of friends, the victim is publicly hated and vilified.

The abuser turns up to court with adoring fans high fiving them and cheers, then gets to smirk and laugh through their appearance. The system allows a rich person to run a show of humiliation and many are happy to watch.

I don't get this. If you listen to the recordings, she is clearly more the physical abuser. She spent three years falsely accusing him of assaults that the evidence shows didn't happen. She released photos and recordings and stories and made sure for 3 years that the headlines were all about how evil he was and how he hurt her, a poor victim. She is the one who took it public and kept it public and he finally decided to respond to defend himself and he is the bad guy?

Is he perfect or g aood guy - far from it but the recordings and photographic and video evidence tell an entirely different story than the one Amber has been putting in the public arena for the last 3 years.

What isn't good for DV victims is Amber lying and making up stories of abuse and excusing or forgetting her own actions.

Xenia · 08/05/2022 15:54

He spoke to her abusively. It does not matter if she wqas 1000 times worse than he was - he is suing her because he says it was a lie that she was abused by him. In my view the recordings show he was - end of story, case proven.

Xenia · 08/05/2022 15:54

Case not proven I mean of course... his case for libel against her not proven.

Midlifemusings · 08/05/2022 16:00

Xenia · 08/05/2022 15:54

He spoke to her abusively. It does not matter if she wqas 1000 times worse than he was - he is suing her because he says it was a lie that she was abused by him. In my view the recordings show he was - end of story, case proven.

The defamation includes the op ed title of him being sexually violent. This case isn't just about any incidence of abuse. It is specific to what was in the op-ed. That she became a public figure representing women who are vicitms of domestic abuse. That she spoke up against sexual violence and faced wrath for doing so.

BonnesVacances · 08/05/2022 16:38

Yes this. Plus she's making it a million times worse by digging the hole deeper and deeper.

I only see one person continuing the abuse tbh. AH sat in the witness box, looked at JD and said he did all those things, knowing well that he didn't. And the evidence proves that.

I expect there is an element of "fuck you, I can afford to take you to court and put you on the stand to tell your bullshit to the world" on his part. I can't blame him for that. I would too if someone made up shit about me.

InFiveMins · 08/05/2022 17:17

Totally agree. The vitriol aimed towards AH is shocking to me as well - people all over social media automatically dismissing her claims because they love JD and can't possibly accept he might be abusive. It's also quite sad how people think they know he couldn't possibly be abusive by watching him in a few films 🙄The whole thing is a circus but very damaging to women who are genuine sufferers of DV and could be more hesitant to speak out because of how the woman in this case is being treated.

BonnesVacances · 08/05/2022 17:41

The whole thing is a circus but very damaging to women who are genuine sufferers of DV and could be more hesitant to speak out because of how the woman in this case is being treated.

Or because of the absolute mockery AH is making of the process.

That it has got this far, having made so many horrific claims that so many intelligent & considered people judge to be unsubstantiated (not just JD fans), it will seriously and catastrophically undermine everything women have fought for to be believed in cases like this.

I cannot state how much damage AH has already done. Whatever the outcome, trust in the system has been damaged.

Midlifemusings · 08/05/2022 18:26

InFiveMins · 08/05/2022 17:17

Totally agree. The vitriol aimed towards AH is shocking to me as well - people all over social media automatically dismissing her claims because they love JD and can't possibly accept he might be abusive. It's also quite sad how people think they know he couldn't possibly be abusive by watching him in a few films 🙄The whole thing is a circus but very damaging to women who are genuine sufferers of DV and could be more hesitant to speak out because of how the woman in this case is being treated.

I am dismissing her claims because the evidence shows she is lying.

Nothing to do with Johnny. Never seen any of his movies - nothing to do with being a fan.

I am not alone in that. Many people are looking at the evidence and struggling to find any way to believe her given her accounts, the inconsistencies, and the lies.

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