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Do you get more pay for working nights?

72 replies

Scarlettjones24 · 06/05/2022 14:50

Just started working nights in a care home and surprised I get same pay as day staff for a ten hour night shift.

OP posts:
Biker47 · 06/05/2022 14:57

Yes, I get a 35% premium for working night shift. Not in a care home though.

tomatoandherbs · 06/05/2022 14:59

Will you only be doing night shifts?

Mybestyear · 06/05/2022 15:01

Yes

Pollydonia · 06/05/2022 15:09

When I worked nights in a care home it was same rate as days .

Bedsheets4knickers · 06/05/2022 15:12

Yep we get £1 extra per hour for working past 6pm . We get £1.30 per hour extra for working weekends . £2.30 extra if you work weekends after 6pm

Pippa12 · 06/05/2022 15:28

Yes time and a third I think, nhs tho. My sister is a care home manager, and it’s flat pay.

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 06/05/2022 15:31

I've never worked anywhere that didn't pay extra for nights (10pm-6am).

PansyPetunia · 06/05/2022 15:33

Yes of course

Antisocial working hours are no fun!

Tortoisetroubles · 06/05/2022 15:35

That's normal for care work. We used to get day rate up until 11pm then not get paid at all for nights until 7am because they were said to be 'sleeping nights' even though the person I supported rarely slept before midnight and woke frequently.

Panda89 · 06/05/2022 15:38

My husband gets a 33% uplift on his salary for working nights (retail)

GregoryFluff · 06/05/2022 15:46

No, we don't get night enhancement in nursing home I work in

dottiedodah · 06/05/2022 16:51

Well no wonder they are crying out for Staff! I think its very poor that night staff get the same flat rate as day staff for essentially anti social hours

northernlola · 06/05/2022 16:56

Doesn't sound fair to me. I work a variety of shifts on a rolling rota, some are days, some evenings, and some full night shifts.

For this I get £3000 on top of my salary, compared to someone who does the same job working exclusively days.

CheapFoodShits · 06/05/2022 17:04

Someone in my work just got asked to do a night shift. It's also ten hours and same pay as the day rate 🤔
In my workplace (so not speaking for all care homes!) there's barely anything to do of a night, residents are in bed 99% of the time and the most you have to do is a bit of ironing, keep the place clean and stay awake. Far less work than the day shift (who work the other 14 hours!) have to do 🤷. As I say, that is MY workplace (I'm day staff but have covered nights several times), so I can only speak from my own experience.

Secretstory · 06/05/2022 17:08

I work in a care home and nights get the same as days. Only thing is they do have to be able to give out meds so have to be slightly more qualified than some care staff so get slightly more for that. But only the same as the staff who do Meds on days.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/05/2022 17:12

Yep but not sure how much more. Extra for weekends as well.

JudgeRindersMinder · 06/05/2022 17:18

Yes I do. It’s a contractual thing though, not a legal entitlement

Cheeseontoast32 · 06/05/2022 17:25

I do but I'm with an agency. I also got 40p more for working weekends even days. But i know a lot of permanent care home staff who earn min wage (£9.50) whether days, nights, bank holidays etc. So wrong!

Spaghag · 06/05/2022 17:33

When I worked in nursing homes no, nights & days were paid the same.

When I worked at an NHS hospital then yes, nights were paid more than days (for approximately half the work).

The last nursing home I worked in was exclusively for patients with advanced dementia who most certainly did not sleep through the night, although they would put twice as many staff on the day shift.

How easy or hard the day shift is compared to nights & how much people are paid for those shifts varies from place to place. The general rule though is that care/nursing homes will pay all staff as little as they can possibly get away with.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 06/05/2022 17:36

Afaik there should be an increase for unsociable hours.

I mistakenly thought it was the law.

My hourly rate was 12% more than the day shift workers. 11pm - 7am.

GregoryFluff · 06/05/2022 18:02

CheapFoodShits · 06/05/2022 17:04

Someone in my work just got asked to do a night shift. It's also ten hours and same pay as the day rate 🤔
In my workplace (so not speaking for all care homes!) there's barely anything to do of a night, residents are in bed 99% of the time and the most you have to do is a bit of ironing, keep the place clean and stay awake. Far less work than the day shift (who work the other 14 hours!) have to do 🤷. As I say, that is MY workplace (I'm day staff but have covered nights several times), so I can only speak from my own experience.

We do 12 hour nights and it's very, very busy
But we're a big home, have quite a few on 2 hourly turns and have a huge cleaning rota
I know we're maybe an exception, but we can't even get agency cause we're deemed a 'hard work' home

Scarecrowrowboat · 06/05/2022 18:49

When I had to do nights it would be three 13 hour shifts in a row and I'd get something like an extra £30 for the three. Such a change to when I qualified and I'd get an extra £100 or so a night. Definitely contributed to me getting out.

TabithaTittlemouse · 06/05/2022 18:59

Time and a half where I am.

I absolutely wouldn’t do it for the same as day rate! Unless I could only work nights I suppose.

Nights where I work are harder and we have less staff. It’s unsociable hours and really rubbish for your mental and physical health.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 06/05/2022 19:04

Me - not in this job, have in others. But I do get a lot of downtime. 🤷‍♀️Dh - yes and a premium on the premium for weekend nights and yet another premium(x3) on bank holiday nights.

Astrak · 06/05/2022 19:26

I worked 14 hour lone working waking night shifts, with volatile families in residence. The money wasn't any different to 12 hour day shifts.
I lasted eight months.
Management were hateful, staff team unsupportive. I was sacked on a trumped-up "ism" charge.
Vile company. Staff turnover particularly high. It took me a year to detox.