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To use the wrong word

213 replies

Feckingfeck · 05/05/2022 23:59

DM has always said "air licked" instead or air brushed for photos. DF says "Mourinio wool and Mourino glass"

Using "c" instead of "tt" such as licle not little absolutely drives me mad.

What word faux pas are you or others around you guilty of?

AIBU to think its not that hard to use the correct word for things?

OP posts:
Isittimeformynapyet · 06/05/2022 22:14

EarringsandLipstick · 06/05/2022 20:50

But the letter isn't pronounced 'aitch' or 'haitch' Margot in all cases?

You said: The letter is pronnounced haitch.
Some people say aitch.

I realise I got it back to front, sorry (you said it's pronounced 'haitch' I misread), but my wider point remains: in Ireland we say 'haitch'; but in most of the UK, not all, it's 'aitch'

So the point is it's 'haitch' or 'aitch' depending on where you live?

The letter F is pronounced Eff, not Feff.

Likewise L is Ell, not Lell.

M, N, R, S, U, W, and X do not begin with the phonetic sound they represent. So why would it be correct to pronounce Aitch as Haitch? Especially when it's actually SPELLED Aitch?

Of course, if you live somewhere where everyone pronounces it Haitch why would you differ? I get that.

H1Drangea · 06/05/2022 22:23

FIL says chimbley instead of chimney which makes me stabby

Should / could of is another annoying one

Conniebanana · 06/05/2022 23:34

Aw I thought this would be about getting words wrong in a comedic sense not grammatically speaking.
So my nana said jujitsu instead of jacuzzi !
Thought I do HATE the use of should of, I'd have preferred a cute mis sayings thread.
Oh and my old boss and his "the ball is in his coat "

RockItLikeRocketFuel · 07/05/2022 01:23

There is a big difference between the meanings of "everyday" and "every day".

PAFMO · 07/05/2022 05:41

Luculentus · 06/05/2022 21:34

I'm with him. Does he also hate "I'm sorry for your loss"? If you're sorry for something, you pity it. It should be "sorry about".

"sorry for" = express sadness/sympathy

"sorry about"= expressing apology.

Does your husband go around killing people's relatives?

PAFMO · 07/05/2022 05:43

(not your husband- other posters husband- yours is in the clear, you might not be though!) @Luculentus

Luculentus · 07/05/2022 08:08

PAFMO · 07/05/2022 05:41

"sorry for" = express sadness/sympathy

"sorry about"= expressing apology.

Does your husband go around killing people's relatives?

No, it's an Americanism that has crept in unnecessarily. If the two meanings are elided, then we lose the primary apology/pity meanings of "sorry for", e.g. "If that's the way he feels, I'm sorry for him", or "I'm sorry for my rudeness". When people are expressing support for a bereaved person, they are saying they are sorry to hear about what has happened.

onlyjustme · 07/05/2022 08:46

Ah, the English language!
I read a report recently about the "irresistible" covid-19.
When you break it down to a technical level, it is... as in it could not be resisted...

I like to say "flaming-ohs" for the big pink birds at the zoo.

And I will forever get the giggles from watching a clip of Benedict Cucumber-Patch trying to talk about penguins.

onlyjustme · 07/05/2022 08:51

@Pinklimey a male colleague (I am female) always says he is going to the bathroom. I said to him once that I now imagine the gents toilets to be like a sort of spa with a massive corner bath with bubble jets in... possibly someone handing you a nice iced drink as you enter, and a fluffy robe?
He said I was quite far off the mark. But it's a nice thought.

EarringsandLipstick · 07/05/2022 09:41

Of course, if you live somewhere where everyone pronounces it Haitch why would you differ? I get that.

It's not just that I live somewhere that does it.

An entire country speaks English and calls it 'haitch'. It's the way Hiberno-English is spoken.

SarahSissions · 07/05/2022 09:43

Tweny instead of twenty 😒

EarringsandLipstick · 07/05/2022 09:43

When people are expressing support for a bereaved person, they are saying they are sorry to hear about what has happened.

Luculentus wrong again. 'Sorry for your loss' is a long-standing, centuries old form of condolence used in Ireland to express condolences.

It's not an Americanism or a recent import.

Pinklimey · 07/05/2022 10:34

what entire country says haitch? I'm English, in England and never have. Its like the debate about scone and scone.

PAFMO · 07/05/2022 10:35

EarringsandLipstick · 07/05/2022 09:43

When people are expressing support for a bereaved person, they are saying they are sorry to hear about what has happened.

Luculentus wrong again. 'Sorry for your loss' is a long-standing, centuries old form of condolence used in Ireland to express condolences.

It's not an Americanism or a recent import.

You're correct. Smile
"Sorry about" is actually the newer (linguistically) of the two prepositional phrases. Originally "sorry for" was used for both phrases (and as you rightly say, is centuries and centuries old) where we'd now consider "sorry about" to be more appropriate.
Interestingly the use of "sorry about" first started to be noticed in US English about 60 years ago.

So the "Americanism" is "sorry about" @Luculentus not "sorry for".

Though those of us working in the field don't tend to see "Americanism" as a dirty word either, but just find these little quirks and nuances of language fascinating.

Goldijobsandthe3bears · 07/05/2022 10:37

I think picking on things like ‘Sorry for your loss’ just feeds into people avoiding that topic/not knowing what to say for the best. When you are grieving you wouldn’t stop to think ‘But it’s sorry ABOUT my loss’ 😖

iklboo · 07/05/2022 11:39

@EarringsandLipstick - sorry I should have said spelled aitch. I know some people say 'haitch' and it's often regional. I learned that on here. It wasn't me who made the post about people reading it back as 'haitch' though. It makes no difference to me.

iklboo · 07/05/2022 11:44

@IrishMama2015 - that is regional / linguistic thing. I say aitch, but pronounce the H in words that start with it - happy, horse, holiday etc.

PrettyMaybug · 07/05/2022 12:08

I loathe people saying 'myself' being used instead of 'me' or 'I' too. It sounds so naff! People use it, to try and sound more articulate than they actually are. IDGAF if it's correct or not, it sounds shit.

And I also loathe - sorry for your loss - when someone has had someone close to them die. It just sounds so naff. I HATE it!

Another pet hate of mine recently, is people using the word 'transparent' which apparently means 'honest and open.' To me, transparent means see-through Like a WINDOW. It has always meant something you can see through, but for the past 5-6 years, it's developed extra meanings... 'to share your thoughts and opinions honestly and respectfully,' and 'transparency is an approach to communicating and forming relationships that emphasize being direct with people." IMO, it means SEE-THROUGH!!! It's often used on the news when reporting on politics ... Every time I hear someone say (on the news) 'they need to be more transparent' I feel my hackles rising! Angry I have never heard it used as being 'open and honest' up until this past 5-6 years!

Also hate people putting SANS in an ENGLISH sentence, instead of 'without.' Eg, 'we went to the beach sans the dog.' Why the random French word you pretentious git?

Finally, people have started to say 'chill' this past couple of years, to describe something that was relaxed and quiet and easy going. 'Last Christmas was so chill I could have cried.' Why????????? Chill means coldness, or coolness, or to scare, frighten, or alarm someone!

PrettyMaybug · 07/05/2022 12:09

First sentence should read...

"I loathe people saying 'myself' instead of 'me' or 'I' too. It sounds so naff! People use it, to try and sound more articulate than they actually are. IDGAF if it's correct or not, it sounds shit."

IrishMama2015 · 07/05/2022 12:51

Pinklimey · 07/05/2022 10:34

what entire country says haitch? I'm English, in England and never have. Its like the debate about scone and scone.

Ireland

LizzieAnt · 07/05/2022 13:01

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LizzieAnt · 07/05/2022 13:23

As a pp has said too, haitch/aitch is a shibboleth in NI.

LizzieAnt · 07/05/2022 13:46

Yes, as @IrishMama2015 said, haitch is the usual pronunciation in ROI. Haitch is taught in schools, for example. If a child said aitch they'd normally be corrected, as haitch is the standard pronunciation in most varieties of Hiberno-English (ie the English spoken in Ireland).

VintageGibbon · 07/05/2022 13:49

BelleTheBananas · 06/05/2022 05:41

@IrishMama2015

Most people say a mash-up of the two: genuarlly. It’ll probably become a word eventually.

Don't you mean eventerally?

iklboo · 07/05/2022 13:52

My old boss used to say 'hence because'. She was an all round knob though.