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Aibu to leave my partner over his use of adult work and messages to prostitutes?

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cbrenx · 04/05/2022 19:36

A really long one here but if you do manage to read I’d really appreciate it.

Last month I found out my partner, had messaged an escort asking about one of her services. I only found out because an email popped up on his phone when we were sat together that said payment made to adult work. I asked him to own up to what he was doing on this website (adult work) and he told me it was for tokens and to watch porn. I had a baby six months ago and we’d had sex once since she was born. But all week leading up to this message he knew I was prepping to get ‘intimate’ again after the baby, however in that same week I’d been suffering with my mental health a great deal as I’d just found out my other child is going to be assessed for autism, my mum ended up in hospital, I’d also just found out I am a high risk for cervical cancer and I’d just ended up being a nightmare to be around and irate and taking everything out on him. He was being so distant though, hardly wanting to discuss my feelings about what was getting me down and sleeping on the sofa some nights and even sleeping in a different room to me and the kids on a recent family holiday. Anyway, I’m not opposed to porn in some respects - but paying for it? When we have money troubles. anyway I dug deeper and found chats to prostitutes when I was pregnant last year, on one particular day. He swears it was talk and he was never planning to do anything with them. These messages were asking to meet, at 7pm! It didn’t seem like that to me. And he was asking them for services that I don’t do at home in the bedroom, if that makes any sense. So it seems sexual? This was when he was away from home for one day. A few months prior to him sending these messages we were having a really bad rough patch and he was diagnosed as clinically depressed and I do believe I played a part in this - I know it doesn’t give him the right to turn to a prostitute, or anyone for sexual favours for that matter. Maybe I’m trying to justify his actions or maybe he’d have done this anyway? I suffer from severe PTSD, OCD and anxiety which I have had minimal help for. My mental health troubles started around 4 years ago and have spiralled ever since. I manage to work and function, im a ‘functioning anxious person’ and I’ve said this before. But inside, every day I’m battling my head. During mine and my partners relationship I was taking a lot out on him, if he didn’t follow any of my OCD rituals I would be emotionally draining to him. (I have contamination ocd which peaked with covid).

My mental health issues stem from my previous child’s father, who cheated on me whilst pregnant with my first baby and gave me sti’s whilst pregnant. My partner is aware of this, so to even consider a prostitute when I’m pregnant makes me feel sick. Why would he potentially put me through the same experience that made me unwell? Prior to this with my previous child’s father, I’d never suffered with my mental health and was a glass half full, happy person and had had ‘normal’, long term relationships that were ‘healthy’. My current partner is my first partner since my abusive ex and he was aware of all of my mental health issues and toxic, emotionally and physically abusive past where I have also been raped, so to me sex isn’t something to take lightly. I laid all of my cards on the table to my partner before we ever got intimate or went down a relationship route. I wanted to make sure he knew what to expect in a relationship with me whilst I was suffering with my mental health. Anyway, some good has come from his infidelity, as I now know and have come to terms with just how much help I need with controlling my emotions… calls to perinatal and my works counselling scheme have been made by me and I am awaiting CBT.

Moving on, and thank you if you are still reading, I’ve found out bits and bats as he’s drip fed the info to me. The more I find out, the more he gives. He swears everything is now out in the open. He swears it wasn’t to do with my mental health and he genuinely, actually doesn’t know the reason why he messaged the prostitutee but says he definitely won’t do it again as he now knows what he has to lose. He has said he wants his own counselling to understand himself as he said he feels he doesn’t know himself anymore. When I did find out about the prostitute messages his initial response was to shout ‘were not doing anything’ so again this leads me to believe it was sex related and not mental health related with his diagnosis of clinical depression. But he said it was an impulse answer. We’ve looked at couples counselling through my work and had a brief chat with a counsellor. Since I found out about his infidelity we have strangely connected in a new way. We’ve realised how unhealthy our relationship has been. Our ‘arguments’ which are usually one sided on my part (because he has never, ever spoken to me with an ounce of disrespect), never get discussed and we brush them under the carpet and half an hour later we’ll be absolutely fine. I think it’s blinded us both in to thinking we had a ‘happy’ relationship. We planned our baby and it happened very quick in to trying. The counsellor we spoke to believes that our relationship has ‘connected’ since learning of his infidelity because all cards are out on the table. There’s no lies weighing him down and in a way it makes sense (if he has actually told the whole truth).

It’s been an emotional rollercoaster this last couple of week. I’ve been up and down since finding out but somehow there’s still a connection there some days. I’ve known him 12 years, But I am now starting to wonder if I’ve ever really known him…

I’ve asked him to get his phone logs to see if any of the prostitutes were called. He’s admitted to texting them on his personal phone and has requested his phone logs which will be coming soon. He’s shown me his bank statements and credit card statements as evidence he’s never drawn cash out around this time that he was talking to prostitutes or made a bank transfer to a prostitute. Hes going to request doctors records and prove he never had an sti test behind my back - which I would have hoped, if he went to a prostitute, he’d have done this before potentially harming his unborn child by having sex with me, knowing my previous child’s father gave me sti’s when pregnant and knowing that his unborn baby could have gotten poorly. Hes also had a polygraph lie detector which has come back showing ‘no deception’ and that he hasn’t had sexual contact or intercourse with anyone but me. I gave him countless opportunities to tell me everything but he became the boy who cried wolf. He did say at the time he messaged them when I was pregnant, he thought he’d lost his family anyway due to our arguing a few months prior. And his excuse for doing it this time is the good old ‘I was curious’.

I’m really mad at him for this. I was pregnant. If he went through with seeing a prostitute then he could have harmed me and the baby and knowing what he knows about what my ex did to me and the sti he gave me, I would have thought he’d have had more sense. He knows I’m on top form with all stis, so surely he’d be scared shitless to give one to me and he knows stis can be transferred through oral and a condom. We have a family. He’s done this twice (as far as I’m aware). He’s been using adult work, only fans and porn hub while at work and told me men look at porn at work… it isn’t surprising but I can’t believe this is normal? I understand our sex life has been non existent, even when I was pregnant. But bloody hell, I was pregnant with chronic heartburn. Does he really need to watch porn at work and message escorts?

I’m no innocent in this at all. I’ve said some really hurtful things to him when I’ve had outbursts of anxiety and ocd. I never meant the things I said and do try to talk to him after about any arguments we have but he shuts me down and says ‘I know it’s your anxiety’. I’m just honestly a shell of the person I was but I’d been open and honest about how bad I could get to him and he assured me he’d support me and would be there for me and I told him if he feels my ocd is out of control to contact the relevant mental health services and I gave him their numbers. He’s never done this and never communicated his feelings to me. Like i say maybe he’d have turned to prostitutes anyway and maybe this is just his real character and I don’t want to believe it. Maybe he’s done it in the past? Or maybe it was me? I can’t wholly blame myself for this though and I think what bothers me most is that I was pregnant. Also, the fact that I feel any man who would entertain a prostitute doesn’t have much respect for women. I feel like my whole relationship and pregnancy has been a lie and that I don’t know my partner. It took a lot to let somebody in to my life and start a family after what I’d been through in my first pregnancy and I can’t believe he betrayed my trust. He seems to think counselling will help us both understand where we’ve gone wrong, how to communicate better and how to rebuild trust. I already know where I’ve gone wrong and that I’m going to do everything I can, whether I stay with him or not, to sort myself out so I can be a better person for everyone around me. I’ve been in such a hole these past four years but after being raped, given sti’s and physically and mentally abused I do want to give myself some credit as I have insight in to my problems and I want to and accept the need to work on myself.

I’ve actually realised for a long time my partner was pulling away from me and other people have too because some of my anxieties aren’t ‘rational’ but I guess that is how anxiety can be.

The question is do I accept he’s accepted where he’s gone wrong and move forward on the basis he’s going to do everything he can to make sure this never happens again. Or do I leave before I get more hurt? I’ve asked him if he has ever used prodtitutes before and told him that if he has, this would actually help me understand more, so that I could help him get the help he needs. But he swears he hasn’t. Would he really lie if I’m so ‘open and understanding’. I told him to perhaps consider sexual counselling but he got quite offended by this and swears he doesn’t have a porn addiction as he hasn’t watched it or felt he misses watching it since I found out. He does have a past of debt, which he lied to me about. I only found out about it whilst I was pregnant after seeing an email pop up on his phone notification, again when he was sat at the side of me. I have debt and I told him this prior to us making the decision to have a child, so why couldn’t he tell me about his debt? He says it was to fund a cocaine addiction a few years before we got together, which was short lived but very, very bad. He said this is why he never told me about the debt as he was embarrassed. Like I say I’ve known him 12 years so him having a cocaine addiction in his past was a shock to me. But I’m now wondering was it really a cocaine addiction or a prostitute addiction or perhaps I’m reading in to this too much?

It sounds so toxic. I guess it has been without us realising and never accepting that we had problems in our relationship. I feel like we’ve not appreciated each other for a long time now. Since I’ve found out I’ve let him stay at my house, so he can still be around the kids and we are acting normal in the day around the kids. It’s as functional as possible and maybe that’s some sign of hope.

He’s letting me track his phone and to be honest, he never goes anywhere anyway, but he was messaging these escorts at work, and so he could do this again at work. He’s really trying but I don’t want to live like this, tracking somebody, lack of trust, it’s exhausting. I just want monogamy, trust, respect and communication from a relationship. He failed to communicate with me and even tell me that my mental health was affecting our relationship, and I’m worried he may use my mental health as his scape goat out of his infidelity. I hope not, though.

Since I found out a month ago we have had more good days than bad; but I cannot get my head around feeling like I don’t know my partner and his attitude towards women being bought. I’ve been reading the UK Punting website and omg… yuck! It’s an eye opener.

He’s also fed me the line that with it being a prostitute it’s less personal and I guess he’s saying he thought it wasn’t as bad as ‘cheating with a normal person’ and would spare my feelings as such. I’d have rather him have had an affair or a one night stand, at least maybe I could have understood his reasons for infidelity more and the emotional connection, rather than seeking sex services. He says he didn’t realise how easy it was to book a prostitutr (lol) and when he realised, he got scared and never went through with it because he couldn’t. Ive asked him if he didn’t love me at the time or didn’t/doesn’t want to be with me and I’ve asked him to answer honestly and told him it is ok if he didn’t but he swears he did love me and wanted the relationship but he thought it was coming to an end anyway when he sent the messages. I’ve asked him if he would go to a brothel or pull up on the side of the road and make ‘enquiries’ and he’s said no. He literally normalised adult work and escorting to himself, a prostitute is a prostitute so why is it ok online but not at a brothel?

He has shown remorse for his actions however over the last couple of days he seems to be getting irritated at going over the same things in conversation and ‘getting nowhere’. He needs to accept that it is important to me and things won’t go back to ‘normal’ straight away, whatever normal even is because I don’t know anymore.

Thank you for reading and I welcome your advice. I’m an overthinker and I always try to understand peoples actions and I reason that good people can do bad things but sometimes my attitude leads me to being a doormat. I don’t want to be anyones doormat, anymore. My kids and my mental health will always be my priority and if it is in my childrens and my best interest to leave this relationship, Im sure I’ll find the strength and I’ll find a way.

OP posts:
cbrenx · 07/05/2022 23:39

@BetsyBigNose he's willing to pay for a private investigator to retrieve all calls and texts from his phone. There are infidelity specialist private investigators. He's really trying to put it right. But for me I feel the damage is done. It's good he's willing to prove himself but as you say it's the fact he even considered it in the first place. That in itself has had an affect to my mental health.

Do you think I should actually go through with allowing him to get a private investigator. I just feel if I know the truth my mind will be at rest with it all. Im trying to piece together what the hell was going on.

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cbrenx · 07/05/2022 23:41

I also know he didn't have a burner phone. He was using his usual phone as his number was on the adult work profile.

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cbrenx · 07/05/2022 23:55

At the time he said he wanted to leave me, although he loved me and didn't want to leave but wasn't happy and was really depressed and he found my ocd outbursts too difficult to deal with and felt like he had to tread on eggshells as he never knew whether what he was doing was wrong or right but didn't dare communicate his feelings to me as he was scared he wouldn't see the baby if he called it off. We were having a bad time and I myself was on the verge of splitting up with him and was talking about moving hours away to where I have some family and friends (my closest family member lives a distance to me).

Still selfish of him to message a prostutue and shows no respect for women in my eyes.

I can see how he felt trapped in a situation. He had a very demanding job, where he had to work away at times and was in a strict contract that wouldn't allow him to leave without a very long notice period. His job was also causing problems as I had a 'high risk pregnancy' and he couldn't be around for all of the scans and emergency hospital admissions and I was struggling with him being away. He said he felt that if we split up and I moved away it would be even more difficult to see the baby.

Still doesn't justify his reasons but I'm trying to understand. For someone I have known 12 years, had a really strong connection with when we were teenagers but a guy I know has been faithful to all of his girlfriends, it does seem out of character. But I guess you never know anyone judging by the fact he's also told me other lies about his finances etc.

He's now out of that job anyway as the contract ended and our relationship did strengthen although my anxiety and ocd still played a massive part. It was just over a month ago we had a hurrendous week and he went and messaged another prostitute come the end of that week.

My worry is, is this what happens every time we have a bad period? He never talks things through. This is why he thinks counselling will help us communicate.

I do wonder if I could move on if I knew the truth. But then again you can't fix something once it's broken and I did have all my trust in him. That is one of the reasons I loved him so much. He has always been nothing but nice to me and is great with my other child. Before all this I'd have said he was my most respectful partner.

I can't believe it.

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Beehappy21 · 07/05/2022 23:56

Honestly, stop putting yourself through this. That's not the kind if website you just 'go on to' so he was thinking about it long before he sent the first message. You're worth more than that, lie dector tests aren't always right either. To lie about debt would be enough for me 🙅‍♀️Move on with your babies and be happy! X

cbrenx · 07/05/2022 23:57

So he's saying the private investigator can retrieve his phone calls and text messages to prove he only made contact on two occasions and to prove the contact involved no meeting. And his phone logs will prove has hasn't contacted any other than those two occasions.

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Bunty55 · 07/05/2022 23:59

Whether he saw prostitutes for sex or not the intent was there He is protesting too much for my liking. He's sneaky and conniving and he has done things which are unfaithful, so he is a cheat and he always will be.
You will never trust him, not ever and you would be right not to.

Fuckthetories · 08/05/2022 00:00

Someone once said to me, when the trust is gone in a relationship, you cannot continue. Pull yourself up by your socks! I wouldn't share a bathroom with a person like that, let alone a bed.

You need irl support. Please confide in someone offline, perhaps a family member. Life is stressful, but it's easier alone than in shitty, draining relationships.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/05/2022 00:01

He's the kind of man who is willing to run the risk of contributing to a woman being trafficked, abused and coerced (because no punter can know for sure if a prostitute is any of those things - and she's arguably more likely to be than not) in order to get sexual thrills at best and to actually have sex with them at worst.

Men who pay for sex therefore do not respect women.

Why would you even considering sharing your life, heart and bed with a man who doesn't respect women?

cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:03

@Beehappy21 I think the fact he lied about Debt has been masked by all of this. I was so angry about it. But he said it was to mask the fact he had a coke addiction in the past which is what he ran up debt for. I have my own house, I've owned two. I've never done drugs. I've got a nice car and had he said that my debts are 'good'. His wasn't so he didn't want to tell me and felt like he was under me as such. He said that I am out of his league physically and mentally and just felt embarrassed. I owned my first house at 19. So he's felt like I'm 'superior' to him. I'm such an open person that there was no reason to lie and it makes me wonder if his past' coke addiction' was a 'prosittute addiction' but maybe I'm reading in to it all too much. The joys of anxiety eh.

He's never owned a house. Only just started driving halfway through our relationship and pretty much has nothing. But none of that mattered to me in the slightest. It does not give someone a reason to lie to me or be embarrassed when he knows I am not that type of person.

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cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:04

youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/05/2022 00:01

He's the kind of man who is willing to run the risk of contributing to a woman being trafficked, abused and coerced (because no punter can know for sure if a prostitute is any of those things - and she's arguably more likely to be than not) in order to get sexual thrills at best and to actually have sex with them at worst.

Men who pay for sex therefore do not respect women.

Why would you even considering sharing your life, heart and bed with a man who doesn't respect women?

I have said this exact thing to him!!!!!
To a T!!!!!

He said he never looked at it that way. And I said he should he has a daughter and it's fucking not on to disrespect women in that way!!!!

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Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:05

The things he's offering to do like the PI it's because he knows it won't show anything. He's not bloody stupid. And if he's paying cash to a street prostitute well a thorough investigation of his phone, or whatever isn't gong to show that is it.

Honestly none of this current shit matters.

HE CONTACTED A PROSTITUTE, WITH THE INTENT OF STICKING HIS PENIS IN ONE OF HER ORIFICES.

This is the only thing that matters.

Fuckthetories · 08/05/2022 00:07

Also OP, complete charming liars tend to be rather good at picking up on vulnerability in women. You need to be very selective. Trust me, I know. Watch out for yourself, cause no one else will. Better alone than in bad company!

cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:11

@Boiledbeetle I'm sure if he went with one arranged through text or phone it would show when all messages and calls are received?

I highly doubt he went with a street prostitute. From what I've seen around our streets, not to be stereotypical, I think it's unlikely but not for certain. However, we have two brothels within a 20 minute radius either side, and I've researched their websites, and I haven't ruled that out that he may have used a brothel and there will be no trace. The websites make it look very 'inviting' if you're a punter.

I guess I'll never know for sure.

He's told me he's used adult work for 'porn' in a previous relationship. The woman before he was with me. He said he used it in their last 3 months being together quite regularly. He then said it stopped when we got together. He started using it again now and again and then when our problems started and that's when he started his first messages. He's normalised this website for himself. I've checked his activity log ins and the content he views. The trace is all on there of what he's been looking at. It makes me sick.

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Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:11

What is this man going to have to do for you to see him as the loser that he is? Prossies, coke, debt? Does he need to rob the local post office?

Fuck me! Come on! You know you are worth now than this!

Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:13

I'll say it again

HE CONTACTED A PROSTITUTE, WITH THE INTENT OF STICKING HIS PENIS IN ONE OF HER ORIFICES.

cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:14

@Boiledbeetle I think it's more the fact of knowing the truth having a child with him. If I didn't have a child with him I wouldn't even hear him out. I want to know exactly what he's done and what risk he potentially put our daughter at when I was pregnant.

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Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:16

Ooh and you should see some of my neighbours gentlemen callers, they range from pervy old men to normal looking white van man types to business men. She meets them in pubs and offers her services. No phones or internet needed

Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:17

It honestly doesn't matter, you'll never know the truth, you'll never trust him. Just assume he's done the worst and move on. Or this will eat you alive.

cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:18

@Boiledbeetle so literally, a prostitute could have approached my partner in a pub and offered him her services? It's that easy?

I thought offering sex in a public place was illegal?

God it's amazing what really goes on in the world. Isn't it?

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Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:20

Its that easy

Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:22

My neighbour really doesn't care of the legalities of how she gets her Johns. She just needs the money.

Bunty55 · 08/05/2022 00:22

OP There is no difference between a street prostitute and one who works in a brothel or on adultwork. Your posts seem judgemental about these women when it is your man who you should be judging here

Boiledbeetle · 08/05/2022 00:27

OK I know I'm coming over as really harsh, but this guy has really done a number on you.

He's not thought of you or the baby in any of this.

its all been about his urge to stick his Willy in someone who wasn't you.

cbrenx · 08/05/2022 00:36

@Bunty55 hence why I said not to be stereotypical because I'm not, I just know that one of the streets near where we live, is commonly known and when I have drove past there in the past (many years ago for work) those women unfortunately looked very, very, run down and very Ill and vulnerable and is quite upsetting to see.

I think if my 'partner' drove down those streets, somewhere in him wouldn't be able to go through with that as it is evident those women are abused. Although those in brothels and using AW are still likely trafficked, mentally unwell, abused, funding drug addictions or just doing it because that's what they are choosing to do. However when he's messaging big boobed blondes on AW, I think he's failed to recognise that those women are just as vulnerable as those on the streets and when I kicked off about how he is part of a problem of abused women, he didn't see it until I painted the picture of how appalling and wrong it is to see a woman for sex just because she's offering it on the internet. I have told him it is no different than buying sex on the street. He didn't stop for a minute to think those women on AW may be being forced. Considering I've been raped and he knows this, I would have thought he would have a different view of what sex means to me, women and in general.

So yes I am fully aware that he has behaved like a scumbag and I am fully aware there may be women on the street who just also chose to sell sex because they want to. But I do feel here he has had some sort of addiction that's led him to think it is normal to message women for sex. He's allowed himself to get in to this mess. He should have never crossed that line. He now accepts he is no different to any other punter, whether he went through with it or not and has referred to himself as a 'weirdo' or something along those lines.

All of this I am only dwelling on so much for the reasons that we have a daughter. I was pregnant. And I need to know who this man really js and what he really gets up to. The weirdest part is when his contract ended in that job, we are never apart. He doesn't even go out with his friends or do anything. He always chooses being at home with the kids. But Like someone said there's always a lunch break...

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Bunty55 · 08/05/2022 00:38

And the truth is you will never know OP.
You are making too many excuses for him, but he has a track record which cannot be erased.

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