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Aibu to leave my partner over his use of adult work and messages to prostitutes?

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cbrenx · 04/05/2022 19:36

A really long one here but if you do manage to read I’d really appreciate it.

Last month I found out my partner, had messaged an escort asking about one of her services. I only found out because an email popped up on his phone when we were sat together that said payment made to adult work. I asked him to own up to what he was doing on this website (adult work) and he told me it was for tokens and to watch porn. I had a baby six months ago and we’d had sex once since she was born. But all week leading up to this message he knew I was prepping to get ‘intimate’ again after the baby, however in that same week I’d been suffering with my mental health a great deal as I’d just found out my other child is going to be assessed for autism, my mum ended up in hospital, I’d also just found out I am a high risk for cervical cancer and I’d just ended up being a nightmare to be around and irate and taking everything out on him. He was being so distant though, hardly wanting to discuss my feelings about what was getting me down and sleeping on the sofa some nights and even sleeping in a different room to me and the kids on a recent family holiday. Anyway, I’m not opposed to porn in some respects - but paying for it? When we have money troubles. anyway I dug deeper and found chats to prostitutes when I was pregnant last year, on one particular day. He swears it was talk and he was never planning to do anything with them. These messages were asking to meet, at 7pm! It didn’t seem like that to me. And he was asking them for services that I don’t do at home in the bedroom, if that makes any sense. So it seems sexual? This was when he was away from home for one day. A few months prior to him sending these messages we were having a really bad rough patch and he was diagnosed as clinically depressed and I do believe I played a part in this - I know it doesn’t give him the right to turn to a prostitute, or anyone for sexual favours for that matter. Maybe I’m trying to justify his actions or maybe he’d have done this anyway? I suffer from severe PTSD, OCD and anxiety which I have had minimal help for. My mental health troubles started around 4 years ago and have spiralled ever since. I manage to work and function, im a ‘functioning anxious person’ and I’ve said this before. But inside, every day I’m battling my head. During mine and my partners relationship I was taking a lot out on him, if he didn’t follow any of my OCD rituals I would be emotionally draining to him. (I have contamination ocd which peaked with covid).

My mental health issues stem from my previous child’s father, who cheated on me whilst pregnant with my first baby and gave me sti’s whilst pregnant. My partner is aware of this, so to even consider a prostitute when I’m pregnant makes me feel sick. Why would he potentially put me through the same experience that made me unwell? Prior to this with my previous child’s father, I’d never suffered with my mental health and was a glass half full, happy person and had had ‘normal’, long term relationships that were ‘healthy’. My current partner is my first partner since my abusive ex and he was aware of all of my mental health issues and toxic, emotionally and physically abusive past where I have also been raped, so to me sex isn’t something to take lightly. I laid all of my cards on the table to my partner before we ever got intimate or went down a relationship route. I wanted to make sure he knew what to expect in a relationship with me whilst I was suffering with my mental health. Anyway, some good has come from his infidelity, as I now know and have come to terms with just how much help I need with controlling my emotions… calls to perinatal and my works counselling scheme have been made by me and I am awaiting CBT.

Moving on, and thank you if you are still reading, I’ve found out bits and bats as he’s drip fed the info to me. The more I find out, the more he gives. He swears everything is now out in the open. He swears it wasn’t to do with my mental health and he genuinely, actually doesn’t know the reason why he messaged the prostitutee but says he definitely won’t do it again as he now knows what he has to lose. He has said he wants his own counselling to understand himself as he said he feels he doesn’t know himself anymore. When I did find out about the prostitute messages his initial response was to shout ‘were not doing anything’ so again this leads me to believe it was sex related and not mental health related with his diagnosis of clinical depression. But he said it was an impulse answer. We’ve looked at couples counselling through my work and had a brief chat with a counsellor. Since I found out about his infidelity we have strangely connected in a new way. We’ve realised how unhealthy our relationship has been. Our ‘arguments’ which are usually one sided on my part (because he has never, ever spoken to me with an ounce of disrespect), never get discussed and we brush them under the carpet and half an hour later we’ll be absolutely fine. I think it’s blinded us both in to thinking we had a ‘happy’ relationship. We planned our baby and it happened very quick in to trying. The counsellor we spoke to believes that our relationship has ‘connected’ since learning of his infidelity because all cards are out on the table. There’s no lies weighing him down and in a way it makes sense (if he has actually told the whole truth).

It’s been an emotional rollercoaster this last couple of week. I’ve been up and down since finding out but somehow there’s still a connection there some days. I’ve known him 12 years, But I am now starting to wonder if I’ve ever really known him…

I’ve asked him to get his phone logs to see if any of the prostitutes were called. He’s admitted to texting them on his personal phone and has requested his phone logs which will be coming soon. He’s shown me his bank statements and credit card statements as evidence he’s never drawn cash out around this time that he was talking to prostitutes or made a bank transfer to a prostitute. Hes going to request doctors records and prove he never had an sti test behind my back - which I would have hoped, if he went to a prostitute, he’d have done this before potentially harming his unborn child by having sex with me, knowing my previous child’s father gave me sti’s when pregnant and knowing that his unborn baby could have gotten poorly. Hes also had a polygraph lie detector which has come back showing ‘no deception’ and that he hasn’t had sexual contact or intercourse with anyone but me. I gave him countless opportunities to tell me everything but he became the boy who cried wolf. He did say at the time he messaged them when I was pregnant, he thought he’d lost his family anyway due to our arguing a few months prior. And his excuse for doing it this time is the good old ‘I was curious’.

I’m really mad at him for this. I was pregnant. If he went through with seeing a prostitute then he could have harmed me and the baby and knowing what he knows about what my ex did to me and the sti he gave me, I would have thought he’d have had more sense. He knows I’m on top form with all stis, so surely he’d be scared shitless to give one to me and he knows stis can be transferred through oral and a condom. We have a family. He’s done this twice (as far as I’m aware). He’s been using adult work, only fans and porn hub while at work and told me men look at porn at work… it isn’t surprising but I can’t believe this is normal? I understand our sex life has been non existent, even when I was pregnant. But bloody hell, I was pregnant with chronic heartburn. Does he really need to watch porn at work and message escorts?

I’m no innocent in this at all. I’ve said some really hurtful things to him when I’ve had outbursts of anxiety and ocd. I never meant the things I said and do try to talk to him after about any arguments we have but he shuts me down and says ‘I know it’s your anxiety’. I’m just honestly a shell of the person I was but I’d been open and honest about how bad I could get to him and he assured me he’d support me and would be there for me and I told him if he feels my ocd is out of control to contact the relevant mental health services and I gave him their numbers. He’s never done this and never communicated his feelings to me. Like i say maybe he’d have turned to prostitutes anyway and maybe this is just his real character and I don’t want to believe it. Maybe he’s done it in the past? Or maybe it was me? I can’t wholly blame myself for this though and I think what bothers me most is that I was pregnant. Also, the fact that I feel any man who would entertain a prostitute doesn’t have much respect for women. I feel like my whole relationship and pregnancy has been a lie and that I don’t know my partner. It took a lot to let somebody in to my life and start a family after what I’d been through in my first pregnancy and I can’t believe he betrayed my trust. He seems to think counselling will help us both understand where we’ve gone wrong, how to communicate better and how to rebuild trust. I already know where I’ve gone wrong and that I’m going to do everything I can, whether I stay with him or not, to sort myself out so I can be a better person for everyone around me. I’ve been in such a hole these past four years but after being raped, given sti’s and physically and mentally abused I do want to give myself some credit as I have insight in to my problems and I want to and accept the need to work on myself.

I’ve actually realised for a long time my partner was pulling away from me and other people have too because some of my anxieties aren’t ‘rational’ but I guess that is how anxiety can be.

The question is do I accept he’s accepted where he’s gone wrong and move forward on the basis he’s going to do everything he can to make sure this never happens again. Or do I leave before I get more hurt? I’ve asked him if he has ever used prodtitutes before and told him that if he has, this would actually help me understand more, so that I could help him get the help he needs. But he swears he hasn’t. Would he really lie if I’m so ‘open and understanding’. I told him to perhaps consider sexual counselling but he got quite offended by this and swears he doesn’t have a porn addiction as he hasn’t watched it or felt he misses watching it since I found out. He does have a past of debt, which he lied to me about. I only found out about it whilst I was pregnant after seeing an email pop up on his phone notification, again when he was sat at the side of me. I have debt and I told him this prior to us making the decision to have a child, so why couldn’t he tell me about his debt? He says it was to fund a cocaine addiction a few years before we got together, which was short lived but very, very bad. He said this is why he never told me about the debt as he was embarrassed. Like I say I’ve known him 12 years so him having a cocaine addiction in his past was a shock to me. But I’m now wondering was it really a cocaine addiction or a prostitute addiction or perhaps I’m reading in to this too much?

It sounds so toxic. I guess it has been without us realising and never accepting that we had problems in our relationship. I feel like we’ve not appreciated each other for a long time now. Since I’ve found out I’ve let him stay at my house, so he can still be around the kids and we are acting normal in the day around the kids. It’s as functional as possible and maybe that’s some sign of hope.

He’s letting me track his phone and to be honest, he never goes anywhere anyway, but he was messaging these escorts at work, and so he could do this again at work. He’s really trying but I don’t want to live like this, tracking somebody, lack of trust, it’s exhausting. I just want monogamy, trust, respect and communication from a relationship. He failed to communicate with me and even tell me that my mental health was affecting our relationship, and I’m worried he may use my mental health as his scape goat out of his infidelity. I hope not, though.

Since I found out a month ago we have had more good days than bad; but I cannot get my head around feeling like I don’t know my partner and his attitude towards women being bought. I’ve been reading the UK Punting website and omg… yuck! It’s an eye opener.

He’s also fed me the line that with it being a prostitute it’s less personal and I guess he’s saying he thought it wasn’t as bad as ‘cheating with a normal person’ and would spare my feelings as such. I’d have rather him have had an affair or a one night stand, at least maybe I could have understood his reasons for infidelity more and the emotional connection, rather than seeking sex services. He says he didn’t realise how easy it was to book a prostitutr (lol) and when he realised, he got scared and never went through with it because he couldn’t. Ive asked him if he didn’t love me at the time or didn’t/doesn’t want to be with me and I’ve asked him to answer honestly and told him it is ok if he didn’t but he swears he did love me and wanted the relationship but he thought it was coming to an end anyway when he sent the messages. I’ve asked him if he would go to a brothel or pull up on the side of the road and make ‘enquiries’ and he’s said no. He literally normalised adult work and escorting to himself, a prostitute is a prostitute so why is it ok online but not at a brothel?

He has shown remorse for his actions however over the last couple of days he seems to be getting irritated at going over the same things in conversation and ‘getting nowhere’. He needs to accept that it is important to me and things won’t go back to ‘normal’ straight away, whatever normal even is because I don’t know anymore.

Thank you for reading and I welcome your advice. I’m an overthinker and I always try to understand peoples actions and I reason that good people can do bad things but sometimes my attitude leads me to being a doormat. I don’t want to be anyones doormat, anymore. My kids and my mental health will always be my priority and if it is in my childrens and my best interest to leave this relationship, Im sure I’ll find the strength and I’ll find a way.

OP posts:
Bananarama21 · 04/05/2022 20:59

It sounds all very Jeremy Kyle especially with the lie detector, even murders can pass them they aren't reliable.
Hes clearly meet up to get his needs meet when he was away. You need to open your eyes its very blatant to outsider what's going on here.

cbrenx · 04/05/2022 21:01

@Workinghardeveryday honestly massively, thank you x

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Clarinet1 · 04/05/2022 21:09

I have read the whole thread and your last comment is what I was going to say in a sense - you may
not realise it but it sounds as though aspects of this relationship are very similar to your previous one and I think that this is what you really need to work on in therapy. Many people find that they repeat patterns unless the put a lot of work into changing but it can be done.

Clarinet1 · 04/05/2022 21:11

When I say “last comment” I mean the one about “Why does this keep happening to me?”

cbrenx · 04/05/2022 21:12

@Clarinet1 sorry, I don't think I am following what you are saying 100% but I would value to know what you are saying.

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ThereWillBeSnacks · 04/05/2022 21:21

All I'll say is this, if you feel you need a lie detector at any point in a relationship, it's over.

This. Sorry OP but no normal, functioning relationship (even one going through a bad patch) would ever, ever require the use of a lie detector. Regardless of their accuracy. Your relationship is dead as a doornail.

FeetupTvon · 04/05/2022 21:54

You need to get rid.
For the sake of your mental health, get rid of him.
You need to feel secure and safe for the sake of your children.
Regardless of how poorly your mental health was at the time your partner should have supported you even more so.
You have not driven him to it... he made that choice, at a time you needed him the very most.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 04/05/2022 21:55

cbrenx · 04/05/2022 20:36

@ChiefWiggumsBoy I know, sorry, I've posted a lot. I just don't really have anybody to speak to about it so I just went wild writing everything down. I'll try and keep it shorter next time.

I'm so sorry @cbrenx I didn't mean to make you feel bad about that! You post as much as you want, as much as you need to.

WhereisWallyFFS · 04/05/2022 22:07

I didn’t manage to RTWT but I don’t need to say that whatever you have done or not done, messaging prostitutes is not OK in my book.

I really hope that you get your therapy soon. It seems like everything is going around your head and it’s hard to think straight.

Your first priority needs to be looking after yourself. OCD can be tough but with hard work and the right intervention it’s beatable.

Clarinet1 · 04/05/2022 22:25

cbrenx · 04/05/2022 21:12

@Clarinet1 sorry, I don't think I am following what you are saying 100% but I would value to know what you are saying.

What I mean is, as you seem to have already identified by yourself, you seem to have got in to another relationship which damaging for you in similar ways to the previous one. I think you will find therapy helpful to see why this happened and avoid it in the future.

Marvellousmadness · 04/05/2022 22:34

So you basically went from a partner who gave you ptsd(?) because he cheated on you... to a new partner that is now also cheating on you but you are considering counseling (?) now.

Uh. I dont know what is going on here. The man has cheated. He didn't pay for watch porn. You can do that shit for free. He paid to get laid. And is now lying to you. And you are lying to yourself.

You've fallen for the same trap. And you're even blaming yourself for it. You are not in the right mindset to have a relationship
You are not in the right mental capacity to have a relationship. You need to end this. Focus on the baby and on getting better. And break this cycle of toxic men

BadLad · 05/05/2022 01:05

Phone logs, medical records, bank statements, polygraph lie detectors, yeah, when your relationship looks more like the FBI tracking the KGB than a couple in love then it's time to call it off. I can't see the trust ever coming back here. Staying together is just prolonging the agony.

Bunty55 · 05/05/2022 01:28

He's being unfaithful to you. He's cheating and devaluing you. He's seeing other women for sex, looking at images on websites, messaging them, looking at explicit photos of them and discussing sex acts with them.
it's nothing to do with you. It's all on him. You need to stop trying to work him out and stop blaming yourself for what he is doing.
He will not stop doing it.
Dump him quick smart. He's a lost cause

MardyOldGoth · 05/05/2022 01:41

Can I whittle your post down to one key issue? You feel betrayed and your trust is broken. That's the nub. And as a person with high anxiety (I'm one too) you will ruminate and go round and round looking for a clear answer. But how can you get one? You can't believe what he says and there's no way of proving if someone shagged someone X number of months ago. So your mind will never rest on this issue. This man, who is supposed to love you, did something that he knew would fuck with your head, in full knowledge of your vulnerabilities due to your past experience and current mental health issues. Maybe he didn't visit a prostitute, but contacting one was enough to send you spiralling, and he caused that.

MrsWooster · 05/05/2022 08:05

cbrenx · 04/05/2022 20:02

@MrsWooster all of these things, I've said to him is what I don't want in a man. Or a father. Or a partner. However I'm trying to understand if I played a part in this, if his mental health did or if he's really just an absolute lying dick who has faked our whole relationship. God this is awful. I mean am I just justifying this and would it happen again? Why only two occasions? That do fall in line with bad periods. But why continue to use adult work since he messaged the first prostitute if he was so guilty about that and never went through with it? Surely you wouldn't stay on the website you'd be too shook?

Your anxiety etc IS difficult to live with -I was you for a long time. A decent partner supports you, understands your and his own frustration and finds a way to deal with it that works for the family.

Instead, your partner made himself feel better by seeking other women to exploit and allowed you to think it’s your fault.

LampLighter414 · 05/05/2022 08:49

Give him a chance OP

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/05/2022 08:52

he genuinely, actually doesn’t know the reason why he messaged the prostitutee but says he definitely won’t do it again

Please don't fall for this absolute bollocks.

You would be unreasonable to stay with this cheating sleaze bag. He doesn't respect you or any other woman.

RealBecca · 05/05/2022 09:22

If hes such a good guy he would be worth the stress. But we all know that genuinely good guys dont cause this much stress.

So my answer would be that he isnt worth the stress.

cbrenx · 07/05/2022 19:48

@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy well he knows why he did, it's obvious to us all so he can't wo his way out of that. I've seen every message on the website.

But he says he doesn't know why he did it to me although he remembers at the time he did question leaving me for our relationship troubles and how awful I was being to him. But it still does not excuse messaging a prostitute.

He's offered to pay for a private investigator who offers infidelity services to recover all of his deleted text messages throughout our relationship to prove that he never made an arrangement to go meet one. He has admitted to texting but obviously I can't see those messages unless they're recovered.

I'm owed the truth at least I guess. But it doesn't excuse going as far as he did when I was pregnant. And all my sti results are back and I'm all clear. Thank god.

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cbrenx · 07/05/2022 19:50

Throughout our relationship he's been nothing but loving towards me and when I blow with my anxiety he just takes anything that comes his way. I'd have had him down as one of the loveliest guys I've ever been in a relationship with. Pftt. I never expected this at all. He was actually my best friend and the person I turned to for everything. This is what makes it worse for me. I don't have many friends or family. I just feel like walking away I don't deserve this kind of hassle I want and need peace. But I also need the truth. He swears I have the truth and said he knows that with a private investigator we can find the truth. I just want to crawl under a rock.

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cutebutscary · 07/05/2022 20:55

Also you need to remember you can pick up a prostitute by driving thru any red light area. No paper trail at all. I'm sorry to say but I fear he is still lying and just told you enough of a version of the truth to get himself away with it and you off his back about it
Hope things work out well for you

cbrenx · 07/05/2022 21:15

@cutebutscary aren't red light areas usually drug users? I don't know much about this at All.

Do you think it's unlikely he did it off of adult work then if he's prepared for a private investigator?

I've searched the area he was staying in when he was away and it said 'red light area graveyard' basically not much. But where we live we have two brothels close by. Ugh.

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Boiledbeetle · 07/05/2022 21:40

Oh OP! You need to kick this shithead out!

You made a big error at the start of your relationship.You say yourself you laid it all out for him. The anxiety, the causes of it, the prostitutes, the abuse. You gave him all the insight into you that he needed to pull the wool over your eyes.

I get why you did it, but you effectively gave him all the power.

Of course he's actually used prostitutes, and most towns still have places that all the local sleazeballs know about where he can quite happily hand over cash, not traceable, for a quick 5 minutes down an alley! (Trust me one of my neighbours is a prostitute, she does it in the back alley/her back yard/kitchen whilst her baby gets pushed round the block a few times in the pushchair by her boyfriend!) He probably squeezes one in every now and again on his way home from work, to work, lunch break, that extra trip he did to Sainsbury's etc!

They'll be a bank account/ pre paid creditcard / mobile phone /email account / loans that you don't know about.

And even if everything I've put above isn't true, you do know that he's contacted prostitutes. You do know that he's in debt. You do know that he's a former? Current? Coke head!I

If you stay with him your anxiety will get worse, and worse, and worse!

I bet you any money if you bin this guy off within a fairly sort period of time, whilst your anxiety won't magically go away it will be better without him taking up all your head space!

And the reason he passed the lie detector? He is a really good liar!

cutebutscary · 07/05/2022 21:54

Red light areas are prostitution areas where there are brothels and people selling sex on street corners. He is seedy. You deserve so much better than this and are worthy of it too. No wonder you have anxiety x

BetsyBigNose · 07/05/2022 23:26

I really feel for you OP, you've had a really rough ride and as you say, it's clearly still affecting your MH.

None of us can know for sure if your DP actually used a prostitute, but the fact that he even considered it - knowing full well what had happened with your previous partner and how horribly it had affected you - tells me that he doesn't value your feelings anywhere near as highly as he should. Frankly, his behaviour makes him sound like an arsehole.

I'm really sorry this has happened to you. You sound like you're making a huge effort to deal with your trauma and the affect it's had on your MH and it's this, and your DC that you need all your strength to focus on right now - this guy does not deserve your efforts. Take care of yourself. Flowers