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To think that Boris bringing back the 'Right to buy' scheme from the 80s is a terrible idea

510 replies

somewhereoverthechipshop · 02/05/2022 14:00

Just this really. I think it's a slap in the face for all those private renters who cannot afford to buy a home, and just a horrible idea.
Boris Johnson mulls a new Right to Buy scheme as housebuilding hits the curb (cityam.com)

Not sure if link above works, but you can google it.
Evidently he is 'mulling over' the idea of bringing back Margaret Thatcher's scheme from the late 80s that decimated this country's council housing stock.
Just wondered what other people thought about it?

OP posts:
Zeus44 · 11/05/2022 12:04

That’s your view. No doubt you are stuck in generation rent and there’s a reason why.

Enjoy your basic wandering life.

JollyWilloughby · 11/05/2022 12:08

@Zeus44

I sure will 😁. Imagine coming on to a thread as a landlord saying you are proud to offer affordable rents and then ending it with “enjoy your basic wandering life stuck in generation rent”

True colours. You’re embarrassing yourself now.

x2boys · 11/05/2022 12:15

Zeus44 · 11/05/2022 11:48

Not market rate tho, subsidised by the taxes I pay.

We all pay taxes and how is social rent subsidised if there is no discernable difference to private rent ?
we don't all live in London and the South East.

mmmmmmghturep · 11/05/2022 13:50

I reiterate if the next pandemic is bacterial rather than viral you wont know whats hit you.

twitter.com/KwajoHousing/status/1524317629535727617?s=20&t=d3OSs4wawCVyJquLwkgNMg

Blossomtoes · 11/05/2022 14:57

Zeus44 · 11/05/2022 11:48

Not market rate tho, subsidised by the taxes I pay.

There is no subsidy on social housing. Council rent accounts are ringfenced. And HA properties have to wash their own faces.

Jayne35 · 11/05/2022 15:39

In the area I live in the local council have tried to sell the whole housing stocks to HA's at least twice - the tenants had to vote, to which the majority voted no both times. The councils don't appear to want the houses, with the costs that updating and repairs amount to.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/05/2022 22:03

Zeus44 · 11/05/2022 11:55

Laughable what your view of a good person is, if I even cared what you thought that is.

back to the thread in question, no right to buy. Give long term tenancies to key workers, that’s it.

Everyone else can join MN and talk about entitlement all day.

All workers. Not just key workers. All workers are valuable.

Villagewaspbyke · 12/05/2022 04:18

Blossomtoes · 11/05/2022 14:57

There is no subsidy on social housing. Council rent accounts are ringfenced. And HA properties have to wash their own faces.

Not true. Central government pays billions to housing associations and councils for them to provide affordable housing.

It is subsidized. That’s a fact regardless of whether you think it should be.

interestingly as @x2boys says, it’s not always cheaper to the tenant. Councils are notoriously inefficient and housing associations are often (although not always) not much better. Lots of well paid people with final salary pensions not doing an awful lot for example can add up.

Blossomtoes · 12/05/2022 05:10

Not true. Central government pays billions to housing associations and councils for them to provide affordable housing

I provided proof several pages ago that this is not the case. Where’s yours?

Blossomtoes · 12/05/2022 05:26

Blossomtoes · 07/05/2022 06:45

The government give billions of subsidies each year to housing associations and councils to provide or maintain social housing. It is subsidized (not saying whether or not it should be, but it is)

That isn’t the case.

Housing associations borrow money to pay for new homes and improvements. After the Housing Act 1988, the proportion of the cost of new homes met by capital grant was scaled back by the Government, so borrowing became the primary source of funding for investment. Much of this was simply borrowed from banks and building societies, but after the late-2000s financial crisis these institutions ceased to offer long-term loans, so developing associations are increasingly turning to corporate bonds to raise funds for expansion.[12]

Here you go @Villagewaspbyke. Just in case you missed it the first time.

Tabasco007 · 12/05/2022 06:38

Muckymaisonette · 02/05/2022 14:21

He must be desperate for votes!

This, it can only be to try and win votes sadly.

Plasticpenelope · 12/05/2022 07:37

ilovesooty · 02/05/2022 14:35

Because he thinks it will make him popular. He doesn't care about whether it benefits people or addresses the housing crisis.

Well he will no longer be in power once the consequences of this policy emerges. It will probably be a Labour Government being blamed for not being able to produce cheap housing out of a hat because the social housing has all been sold off. Meanwhile a whole generation of people will continue to vote Tory because they personally benefitted from it years ago cf. Mrs M Thatcher.

Villagewaspbyke · 12/05/2022 08:31

Blossomtoes · 12/05/2022 05:26

Here you go @Villagewaspbyke. Just in case you missed it the first time.

Thanks- that completely contradicts your claim that councils and housing associations are not subsidized. They may be subsidized now less than in the past, but they are still subsidized to the tune of billions a year. Rightly in my opinion provided we are getting value for money.

Villagewaspbyke · 12/05/2022 08:35

www.gov.uk/government/news/86-billion-for-affordable-homes-to-give-boost-onto-housing-ladder

that’s one program of funding but look it up yourself. Stop spreading misinformation- it’s not helpful.

Zeus44 · 12/05/2022 12:43

All paid for by tax payers. Even landlords!!

Misinformation and stupidity, rife in the user group here with their sense of entitlement.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 12/05/2022 15:04

Zeus44 · 12/05/2022 12:43

All paid for by tax payers. Even landlords!!

Misinformation and stupidity, rife in the user group here with their sense of entitlement.

Sense of entitlement, like the one you have, thinking you have the right to multiple properties that you don't need.

JollyWilloughby · 12/05/2022 15:57

@Waxonwaxoff0

She is the only one who pays her taxes don’t you know? Everything is paid for by her 😂

Waxonwaxoff0 · 12/05/2022 18:18

JollyWilloughby · 12/05/2022 15:57

@Waxonwaxoff0

She is the only one who pays her taxes don’t you know? Everything is paid for by her 😂

Weird argument isn't it. Everyone who works pays taxes, not sure why that poster thinks they're special because of it.

Blossomtoes · 12/05/2022 18:27

Villagewaspbyke · 12/05/2022 08:35

www.gov.uk/government/news/86-billion-for-affordable-homes-to-give-boost-onto-housing-ladder

that’s one program of funding but look it up yourself. Stop spreading misinformation- it’s not helpful.

You’re the one spreading misinformation. You missed:

so borrowing became the primary source of funding for investment

The money referred to in your link isn’t a subsidy, the vast majority of it is for privately owned homes. The social housing element will be repaid from rental income. You seem to think we’re all stupid. We’re not.

TwinklingFairyLights · 12/05/2022 21:06

Everyone who works pays taxes, not sure why that poster thinks they're special because of it.

Even people who don't work pay tax. VAT.

I think our friend may be using the words tax payer when he / she means net contributor.

TwinklingFairyLights · 12/05/2022 21:08

I think the landlord may be upset because the taxes on BTL have gone up a bit recently. And he / she thinks it isn't fair. Hopefully the taxes will continue to go up and he / she will have to start selling up.

TwinklingFairyLights · 12/05/2022 21:10

The taxes on BTL need to go up so that they are equal to what those of us on PAYE pay. Level playing field and all that.

saleorbouy · 12/05/2022 21:15

When people are crying out for social housing and councils don't currently have adequate stock it seems absurd to sell it at a knock down price and cheaper than the stock can be replaced.
Tenants in London made huge sums when they sold their properties, to me it's not the best use of housing or value for taxpayers. It doesn't fix the housing crisis either.

AnyFucker · 12/05/2022 21:32

Hopefully the taxes will continue to go up and he / she will have to start selling up

And reduced private rental stock will diminish, leading to further increased rents

some folk really need to apply a bit of critical thinking

TwinklingFairyLights · 12/05/2022 21:52

some folk really need to apply a bit of critical thinking

Yes, you really do.