To think that Boris bringing back the 'Right to buy' scheme from the 80s is a terrible idea

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Just this really. I think it's a slap in the face for all those private renters who cannot afford to buy a home, and just a horrible idea.
Boris Johnson mulls a new Right to Buy scheme as housebuilding hits the curb (cityam.com)

Not sure if link above works, but you can google it.
Evidently he is 'mulling over' the idea of bringing back Margaret Thatcher's scheme from the late 80s that decimated this country's council housing stock.
Just wondered what other people thought about it?

‘Beat the landlord’

@Zeus44 Bet you expected them to wear a mask to protect you though, oh yes it was "we are all in this together" then. Different now eh. Back to the default setting.

The ignorance here is mind blowing. Benefits - apart from the state pension - are already set at levels whereby claimants would be better off working full time for minimum wage.

Between exploiting renters and benefits bashing, you’re doing a stellar impersonation of a “grind the faces of the poor” Dickens character.

You don't get the same in benefits as you do working a 40 hour week. Benefits are always LESS. You clearly don't understand the system.

You clearly do not understand the benefits system. You cannot just "choose" to stay on benefits and not work full time, unless you are a single parent with a young child that needs childcare, and a single parent looking after a young child with no help is hardly lazy, unless you think SAHPs are lazy.

Agree with this.

I live in a HA flat. Lived in it from when it was built. Assured tenancy.

So technically although it's HA stock officially I can live in it until death and then ds can take it on.

I wonder if it'll benefit the economy more if I bought it and paid interest on the mortgage?

but I do think it's not as simple as it reducing the stock as once occupied it's not "available" anyway.

The people on here defending landlords are just proving my point to be honest. A bunch of selfish, privileged, "I'm alright Jack" types looking down on people worse off than themselves. No wonder no one has any sympathy for landlords.

Yup. They’re certainly not persuading me.

The people on here defending landlords are just proving my point to be honest. A bunch of selfish, privileged, "I'm alright Jack" types looking down on people worse off than themselves. No wonder no one has any sympathy for landlords.

The people on here defending landlords parasites just proving my point to be honest. A bunch of selfish, privileged, "I'm alright Jack" types looking down on people worse off than themselves. No wonder no one has any sympathy for landlords parasites.

Fixed it for you

Just making themselves look worse with every post. So desperate to prove they're not bad people and then start in with the "lazy people on benefits" trope. True colours always show.

Right to buy isn't the issue, I know a couple of single mums for whom the help to buy scheme got them onto the otherwise unobtainable housing ladder. The problem lies with multiple home ownership and population increase vs housing availability.

RTB is most certainly the issue. A decent home should be a right. Owning one most definitely isn’t. Those two women could have had a secure home for as long as they wanted without removing properties from already depleted housing stock.

But as I said, it’s generally poor value to the taxpayer.

Not as poor value as housing benefit being used to pay off the mortgages of private landlords.

They get housing in return!! Just like when you use benefits to pay for food or water. Someone somewhere makes money off it, same as housing.

It’s not an entitlement and it’s not a basic human right.

@Zeus44

So you don’t think anything is a human right and that includes access to food, shelter etc etc. Fair enough, but aren’t you a delightful human being 😂.

I believe in personal responsibility in life, but I believe in human kindness too.

No it’s not a human right to be just given it nor are you entitled to it.

Its not about kindness, unless you help yourself, no one is going to help you.

Certainly not with any decent housing for sure!

AFFORDABLE housing SHOULD be a right.

And in many countries affordable housing is prioritised by the government.

unless you help yourself, no one is going to help you.

im 30 and most people I know a similar age have only managed to get on the housing ladder because they have been lucky enough to have help from parents.

Until you change your entitlement mindset, you won’t ever move forward.

@Zeus44 So if a care worker who cares for you when you are a in a nursing home has nowhere decent to live and risks bringing in a contagious illness because of it i take it you wouldnt complain. Oh btw Channel 4 news covered this during the pandemic, Care workers living in HMOs sharing kitchens with several other families was apparently ok but the biggest risk was two women walking in a field while drinking coffee.

The past two years should have taught people that decent homes and access to decent sanitation (See Kwajo Housing on Twitter before you reply) is bloody important. Its one of the reasons social housing came about, Read Municipal Dreams The Rise and Fall of Council Housing by John Boughton. Because the middle classes were fearful of catching something off the working classes. If we end up with something bacterial rather than viral you wont know whats hit you.

I don't know who you're talking to, but I own my house. I just feel sympathy for those who can't afford to save for one because of greedy people like you who think it's fine to buy multiple properties and charge extortionate rent.

A decent home should be a right. Owning one most definitely isn’t. Those two women could have had a secure home for as long as they wanted without removing properties from already depleted housing stock

Exactly this - but as I've said, it's notable how fast those principles around affordable housing for all can vanish, when some who've previously been loud on the subject are offered a good deal

Funny how so many blame the politicians but rarely comment on this isn't it?

Understand your point, it’s well put together. However the underlying issue is not housing, it’s the value each job pays.

Critical jobs such as NHS staff, police officers, refuse workers etc should all get access to a grant subject to working in these sectors for x period of time.

This will give people security whilst retaining key skills but working must always mean you are better off in every way.

We have enough (Through inheritance) to buy a second home which we decided not to, now our money is depreciating - we should put it in bricks and mortar, because it would hold it's value then. That's the dilemma.

On principle we won't.

What should happen is we should pay land value tax - then landlords and tax avoiders like starbucks and amazon would have to pay. That money could then be put towards proper investment

But that would be taxing the rich