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Was this unreasonable?

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slpin27 · 01/05/2022 20:56

Okay. Today I was on a plane to Ireland from the UK, where masks aren’t mandated. So, I got on, settled on and I didn’t have my mask. I got told that I need to put my mask on, I said sorry, I don’t have one. Any spares? They said they didn’t have any, so I left it and a couple of minutes later the attendant came over and told me that I need to wear my mask otherwise they’ll kick me off. I was extremely confused, explained I was happy to wear a mask but they’re not mandated and had no way of knowing I had to bring one, and there are no spares provided. So, I went around asking half of the plane for a mask, eventually got one. But I ended up arguing anyway. Conversation as follows.
Me: if you’re going to kick people off for not wearing masks, surely you should provide spares?
1: I wasn’t going to kick you off.
Me: The other one threaten to.
1: And she had every right to. You were refusing to wear a mask!
me: I had no access to one?
so. Was I unreasonable?

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Stompythedinosaur · 02/05/2022 01:24

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Yeah, I mean, I still work in a hospital will full requirements for staff and patients to wear masks, and we can barely move for suffocated bodies in the corridors...

(If you actually think this is true, have a look at any of the videos of people putting on masks while attached to an oxygen saturation monitor - masks have no impact).

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 01:52

@Stompythedinosaur Those videos say nothing about the long term detrimental effects of wearing masks, they prove nothing.🙄 Neither does 'working in a hospital'.
Check out this peer reviewed study though, which suggests masks are actually detrimental www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 01:57

So basically mask-wearing had no discernible impact on the spread of COVID-19 in Europe during winter 2020-21 and may actually have increased mortality 🤔

Ponderingwindow · 02/05/2022 03:00

At this point leaving the house without a spare mask seems odd. You can keep one in a sealed plastic bag. You never know when you might need one.

getting on an airplane without a stack of them is just negligent. Not realizing you need them is like not saying you weren’t aware of the security requirements for toiletries or the baggage claim allowances. The information is published and when you travel it is your responsibility to seek it out.

PurpleRainbowSun · 02/05/2022 03:08

I flew with Ryanair recently and had no idea I would need a mask. They informed us during boarding for the first time. If they informed us during the booking process I missed it...I do think that airlines ought to send a clear message if it's a requirement - it wasn't a requirement of the first airline I flew with. I did have one but only because I legally needed earlier on trip.

Ryanair made several announcements about wearing masks on the flight I was on but the majority of people around me weren't wearing one. They didn't try and enforce.

Superhanz · 02/05/2022 04:40

You were being unreasonable for not bringing one.

I recently flew from NI to North of England and one of the first things on my list was a mask (and at least a few spares).

In the end I didn't need one but given the times we are living in there was no excuse to forget.

SonicWomb · 02/05/2022 04:48

They can also refuse to let you fly if you're dressed inappropriately. Should they carry a bunch of spare clothes to?

I’m not sure this got the appreciation it deserved!

Vikinga · 02/05/2022 04:49

With all the chopping and changing of tiles they should have spares. Even if they are for sale. I mean even when we had to wear masks and I once left mine in a different coat, I was given one in a supermarket after I asked.

And my string broke at the dentist so they have me one.

Yanbu

SlatsandFlaps · 02/05/2022 04:52

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THIS!!!

KatherineJaneway · 02/05/2022 05:39

After the last two years I'm surprised you didn't have any spares on you just in case. Don't believe for a minute you couldn't buy one in the airport.

comealongponds · 02/05/2022 06:06

YABU

you're an adult, it’s your responsibility to ensure you have everything you need, including a mask.

WeCouldBeSpearows · 02/05/2022 06:08

Ryanair don't even give you water for nothing, yet you expect them to give out masks 😂

WeCouldBeSpearows · 02/05/2022 06:13

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This... isn't a serious post, surely?

The only way I can think this is real, is if you bought some of the same batch of cheap masks that my mum did during early COVID - that had a layer that was literally plastic and you couldn't breathe through it. And then you didn't bother trying any other ones thinking they were all like that.

Most aren't... And the majority of the population have managed to successfully wear masks AND breathe oxygen at the same time.

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 06:25

@WeCouldBeSpearows You have been researching the long term effects of wearing masks for long periods every day then? Show me your evidence, I have already posted a link to peer reviewed research that suggests they do jack shit to prevent infection/ are actually detrimental to health

WeCouldBeSpearows · 02/05/2022 06:32

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 06:25

@WeCouldBeSpearows You have been researching the long term effects of wearing masks for long periods every day then? Show me your evidence, I have already posted a link to peer reviewed research that suggests they do jack shit to prevent infection/ are actually detrimental to health

I would love you to post the research that has been done to support your assertion that they starve people of oxygen. That's the bit that made me laugh.

SunshineAndFizz · 02/05/2022 07:02

It's annoying they didn't have spare ones. But ultimately this ones on you. After the last couple of years we'd love all to do away with masks, but seriously who thinks they don't need to have one with them. You deliberately didn't bring one.

rainyskylight · 02/05/2022 07:16

Hi OP. The covid fanatics are out. These are the same people who would say that you absolutely must stay in the house isolating rather than take a brief walk around an extremely isolated rural area at 6am because you might get fined by a random policeman if you go out.
Most of the vote is with you. YANBU.
however I would say that if you’re flying with Ryan Air it’s always a good idea to check the rules first because they’re so horrendously unreasonable themselves and set people up to get caught out.

rookiemere · 02/05/2022 07:26

YABU.

We're just coming out of a situation where we've been requires to wear masks most of the time. The sensible thing would be to bring along a mask just in case. Ryanair operates on thin margins- no way would they provide a free mask, if they did it would be the poor cabin crew paying for it from their own pocket.

NB I don't care if people wear masks or not and unless they're medical grade ones I doubt they make any difference, but I generally carry a mask for me because it's easier to have one than not and because I know airlines are sometimes different from countries.

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 07:48

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WeCouldBeSpearows · 02/05/2022 07:58

It's funny because it's overblown nonsense. People have not been starved of oxygen because of masks. Feel free to prove me wrong.

'The tighter the better'? Well aren't you a peach 😂😂. 'grow up and let me know' - well I did ask, but so far I see nothing to suggest people are asphyxiating due to mask wearing.

I love that because I don't think masks starve people of oxygen (because they don't) you assume I'm still wearing one. Presumably you think I think they are effective. I have never said that. In fact I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that they haven't helped curb the spread of omicron. It certainly doesn't appear that they have. But that's not what I was talking about.

slashlover · 02/05/2022 08:00

SlatsandFlaps · 02/05/2022 04:52

THIS!!!

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What material is your mask made of that it's airtight?

londonrach · 02/05/2022 08:03

I'm surprised you didn't know you needed a mask. They should have sold you one. Mostly you being unreasonable. If you forgot your passport you couldn't fly so same re a mask.

slashlover · 02/05/2022 08:06

Fizzyfish · 02/05/2022 01:52

@Stompythedinosaur Those videos say nothing about the long term detrimental effects of wearing masks, they prove nothing.🙄 Neither does 'working in a hospital'.
Check out this peer reviewed study though, which suggests masks are actually detrimental www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Cureus is a post publication peer review site though.

rookiemere · 02/05/2022 08:13

How many threads have there been on the efficacy of masks over the past two years? Several thousand I would think.

It's irrelevant, this is purely a planning question. And yes at this point I think it's fairly daft to plan a flight and not bring a mask with you just in case, and then to expect the airline notorious for cost cutting to provide one for free.

daretodenim · 02/05/2022 08:19

I recently flew with the kids and DH flew separately with same airline to a different city in the same country. He didn't have to wear a mask in the airport. I did. He didn't need a mask onboard we were told in an email a day before flying that they were mandated onboard and to bring spare..only nobody was wearing any onboard, including the flight staff.

It's easy to say OP is BU but the whole flying+ mask wearing is a nightmare.

I think anybody flying should assume that at some random point they'll be required and bring extra. But anybody who genuinely gets confused is not BU, especially when flight crew aren't wearing them when the airline mandates them!