Part 2 -AIBU to wonder why so many people assume Johnny Depp is the good guy and Amber Heard is the villain

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Just thought I would start a follow on thread for anyone interested in the trial. I have kept it in AIBU so that it is easier for previous posters from Part 1 to find.
We are halfway through and have heard JD's testimony so next week we will hear from AH.

I think there is a difference between being polite in a volatile situation to protect someone and reaching out of your own accord to say you love someone and they will always be family after the relationship has ended.

I think she's trying to set the scene for love bombing.

She's made a mistake though. She'd have been better off going for the "he hit me when we are having our humdinger arguments" angle than trying to pretend he just suddenly hit her from nowhere, which in the context of his past relationships is unbelievable. Whereas in a toxic triggering relationship with an abusive person like his mother the former might have had legs.

It's a shame. She seemed sweet, resourceful and smart at the beginning of her testimony. I hope her DD turns out ok.

No one said that to my exes either. In fact my dad still wouldn't speak to them if he saw them and my siblings wanted to kill him. No one would be so nice to someone who abused their child, if they believed their child.

I wonder what the judge thinks. Like is she ‘omygod these people’

I find it interesting how she remembers very specific things on specific dates. If someone asked me what my relationship was like on a certain month and year, I couldn't recall huge details. In fact, I've blocked a lot out.

Same here I can’t remember months when things happened. Although maybe if I was famous and my diary was scheduled etc I would.

I wonder what the judge thinks. Like is she ‘omygod these people

Given her comments when AH’s lawyers wanted the case thrown out yesterday, I think she thinks she’s listening to a lot of bullshit!

very good point re her mother being so lovely to Depp

I think there is a difference between being polite in a volatile situation to protect someone and reaching out of your own accord to say you love someone and they will always be family after the relationship has ended.

It depends on the person. If she's from a background of abuse then why wouldn't they gloss over that, to a certain extent? Her dad was an alcoholic and her mum stayed with him. And they had a good relationship with him separately from Amber, she's talked about how generous he was and how he made them feel special.

The biggest mistake for me is when she infers she doesn’t have the words, that parts is acting as she been preparing for months.

She started telling the story and she was about to say that she threw something at Johnny and then she changed it to he slapped her first and that was the reason she threw something. She stopped herself and changed the story.

She also makes a number of strange errors eg the leaning against the car window and then using the word windshield and then having to correct that to window. It’s just a bit odd if it’s a real moment to her

What on earth is she going on about him howling for?

It's slightly clutching at straws to suggest she is lying because her mother was nice to jd, one of the most famous movie stars of all time

I also think it’s clutching at straws to suggest that she’s lying because she remembers in detail, or told family early on. I personally remember a quite bit of detail from incidents that took place when I was abused, and also wrote about some of it in a journal afterwards which I would review if I were going to trial. Everybody deals with things differently.

Agree

I just watched the video on the BBC about the first slap and I believe her
The "wino" tattoo is what he did to change his "winona forever" tattoo so I can imagine it escalated if he thought she was laughing at him.
I could tell you plenty of dates of my own abuse as I had to go over and over in my mind to make sense of stuff.

I still can't get over that he would sue her if she was abusive. The last thing I would do is provoke my abuser. I let him divorce me ffs, to avoid escalating things

I do believe her; I think if I was critiquing her testimony though I would say when she talks about the abuse creeping in she keeps it quite general and doesn't go into specific incidents so much. It creates the impression of lots of events which again I do believe, but I think skimming over it makes it sound potentially more like a story. She does have a flowery way of expressing things at times but then so does he, so I don't think that's an issue. They both clearly had a narrative of the relationship as a sort of tortured love story so it kind of reflects that.

Don't believe a word she is saying to be honest. Way too dramatic and emotional. It's almost like a movie with bad acting.

This is so awful to have her having to do this. I don’t understand why they do this on public.

Are you believing her?

Why? She was happy to write an article about him abusing her, without mentioning she abused him. Why cant she now be questioned publicly about it? He was. Now its her turn.

I don’t think anyone should have to relive or be accused of sexual violence publicly. That’s it.

I don’t know. I’m finding it hard to know what to think tbh. I generally don’t think people should relive/ be accused of sexual violence publicly , but I know that’s not a widely held view.

Completely agree.

My mum has said on a number of occasions if I didn’t fight back I wouldn’t have been so hurt and that really I gave as good as I got

not all mothers understand dv not all mothers accept the lovely son-in-law could be that nasty not all mothers love unconditionally not all mothers and daughter relationships are as good and supportive as they should be.

her responses are her responses she isn’t you she isn’t me and none of us had the worlds press tearing us apart (this started way before they even divorced she was blamed years ago for JD’s obvious heavy use of drugs and alcohol)