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Landlord turning up unannounced

132 replies

Crazyhousewife · 27/04/2022 11:15

So I moved house recently and my landlord seems to be coming round a lot. He comes round more then my own family. He is trying to get my family to do repairs had to do a few as he hasn’t done them and it costs me for the things that needed buying to do the repair. I pay quite a high rent for my area and I’ve noticed he seems to hang around more when rent is due. He was supposed to be coming by for something yesterday but then turns up randomly today. Am i in the wrong but I’m kind of getting sick of it. I just want privacy is that so wrong.I homeschool so the constant disruption really isn’t good for learning. I honestly dread him messaging or calling because I can’t deal with the constantly coming around. I’ve got enough to deal with financially so I don’t need him hovering over stressing me out more.

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ElCoh · 03/05/2022 22:40

MissusMaisel · 27/04/2022 11:41

Ignore all the people who will blither on about 24 hours notice...that's not actually a thing. You are entitled to quiet enjoyment in your home and you do not have to let your landlord in to the property ever, at all. You should do for essential maintenance, but you don't actually have to.

Tell him to sod off, frankly

Untrue.

Junepassing · 03/05/2022 22:56

Ignore him and call the police, if he's making physical threats to come over then you need to call 999. Call shelter in the meantime if you're unsure but need advice. He's a bully.

mumda · 03/05/2022 23:00

Your landlord tenant relationship needs to be put on a more formal setting.
Write and post a list of repairs.

jackstini · 03/05/2022 23:13

I am a landlord and would say call the police

There is so much he is doing that's illegal - no certificates, no deposit amount on agreement (did you get a receipt for what you paid or have a record?) or been put in a scheme

Not allowing you quiet enjoyment, turning up without decent notice

Has he shown you a copy of landlord's building insurance?

If you were not given keys or allowed to move in until the 9th then that's when your tenancy should have started so your rent isn't even technically due yet!

Do not let him in tonight - you do not have to

Make a list of repairs and documentation you need and send him written and emailed copies

Landlords like this really get on my nerves giving us all a bad name Angry

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/05/2022 09:31

Sadly I expected the threats; he's clearly a complete maggot who feels he can do exactly as he likes despite the rules, and as PPs have said he's the sort who gives all LLs a bad name

You can try the police, though frankly I doubt they'll do anything, but Shelter's emergency helpline is 0808 800 4444 and they're probably the best source of advice

Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 09:41

Called my local authority this morning and they said try 101 if you feel in danger but they have logged it with housing solutions and I’ve spoken to environmental health and need to call back if he gets in the house and switches the gas and electric off and also housing solutions as I won’t be able to stay at the property without gas and electric. I’ve logged on to my local councils bidding list to see if I can even go on the list and explained the situation. Left the keys in the door but doubt that will stop him and we have been confined to one room as I home educate one child and have a toddler. I can see I’m gonna have to ring the police as he will be coming round. Just didn’t realise landlords went on like this, my last one missed a few repairs but was never like this. If I could just move out I would. My whole page of deposit is blank but luckily I had my step parent send it from her bank so I have proof I paid it and I do rent via bank transfer too. It’s only two days late and I have pushed the council who have said it could possibly be another day.

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BlanketsBanned · 04/05/2022 09:57

How can he turn the gas and electrics off, isnt it all controlled by the supplier. He sounds a nutjob, keep yourself safe and call the police if he turns up.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/05/2022 10:00

Just didn’t realise landlords went on like this

Fortunately the vast majority don't; as said, you've sadly got one of the few maggots who simply doesn't care, and even when the rent's paid he's likely to just find something else

It's rarely possible to stop someone like this by quoting the rules at them; the only thing that works is enforcement, so I'm glad you've contacted Housing.
Best just hope they actually do something and it isn't just put in a file because they're inameeting, on leave, off sick, etc. - which is why I'd also encourage you to call that Shelter emergency line

CheeseBoard2022 · 04/05/2022 10:11

He can't disconnect the services himself! He would need a qualified plumber and a electrician to do it, otherwise it's unsafe.

Call the police immediately if he turns up.

Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 10:56

I will be calling the police if he turns up. The messages have started again and he is now requesting my date of birth and previous address. He asked for my email address yesterday as I think he is trying to hack into my council account or break data protection to gain access to my information over the phone. Wouldn’t trust him not to commit fraud and try and get personal details about me via the council. I’ve put myself and my children in one room so that if I need to I can block the living room off with items of furniture. My deposit doesn’t look like it’s in any schemes as I’m trying them all now. My housing officer isn’t back until tomorrow so wishful thinking he stays away today but I doubt it. I just want to leave the property but he will turn up and switch everything off and possibly empty my items out of the house.

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BlanketsBanned · 04/05/2022 11:03

Is there someone you can stay with, do not give him any personal information or leave any paperwork around. By theeatening to turn the services off all he could do is break in, switch the fuse box off and gas tap. You shouldnt need to barricade yourself and your children in, he cannot remove your belongings.

Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:03

Also as my back gate entrance is at the side I’ve tried to barricade it and keep my curtains close. How do landlords like this get away with the way they go on and are able to keep renting properties out.

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Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:05

No my family live quite a distance away from me and I’ve only been offered the support of ringing the police from my local authority

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Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:06

I’ve got my paperwork hidden but we will be in today and no idea what I’m gonna do if he breaks in as I honestly believe he will be violent.

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PeacockPartyTime · 04/05/2022 11:08

My mum’s neighbour once found their (joint) landlord doing a poo in their toilet when they came home from shopping! He was told to leave and was most affronted. Mum’s neighbour was very worried that he’d been doing it the whole time she lived there.

Crikeyalmighty · 04/05/2022 11:11

If he hasn't protected your deposit in a scheme , once you leave you can sue him for 3 times your deposit- take him to small claims court at that point!!

TaranThePigKeeper · 04/05/2022 11:15

Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 10:56

I will be calling the police if he turns up. The messages have started again and he is now requesting my date of birth and previous address. He asked for my email address yesterday as I think he is trying to hack into my council account or break data protection to gain access to my information over the phone. Wouldn’t trust him not to commit fraud and try and get personal details about me via the council. I’ve put myself and my children in one room so that if I need to I can block the living room off with items of furniture. My deposit doesn’t look like it’s in any schemes as I’m trying them all now. My housing officer isn’t back until tomorrow so wishful thinking he stays away today but I doubt it. I just want to leave the property but he will turn up and switch everything off and possibly empty my items out of the house.

You need to call the police now, as I advised you last night, and as you were advised by the council earlier.

Why are you in the house today, with your children, if you think he is going to turn up and be violent? Call someone to pick the children up, then call the police and explain you aren’t safe and why. You don’t need to wait for your housing officer to do that.

And again, ring Shelter’s emergency number. You have got to get ahead of this situation.

Testina · 04/05/2022 11:30

There are only 3 rent deposit schemes to check. All with websites. You knew that a week ago, so I’m surprised you’re only checking it now.

Ditto Shelter - so many people here advising you to call them, but you haven’t. They really are going to be your best source of advice on the law regarding housing if this arsehole threatens you, or “evicts” you. I say “evicts” because he’s not followed the correct tenancy process to date.

Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:43

I’ve called the police but I was advised by the council it’s a civil matter just to call when he turns up. Unfortunately I can’t just get the children picked up and leave the house as I have no where else to go. My family are a large distance away and they work. Not everyone has family who retire, I have relatives still working full time at 80. I also home educate so I still have to carry on like a school day unfortunately and pray that he doesn’t turn up.

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Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:44

I didn’t check them last week as my tenancy was blank and council have presumed it’s not protected and we’re acting on that basis. I’ve only started today as I would prefer to clarify that it is definitely not protected.

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Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 11:45

Shelters line is extremely busy. I’ve called all morning the call just ends

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Crazyhousewife · 04/05/2022 15:35

Landlords just turned up and I’ve ignored the door. My son shouting that he was here, my child has a disability so doesn’t really understand why the landlord keeps coming round. I’m having to ring the police as I think he will be back since he just sat in the car and rang somebody. Probably the electrician to shut the electric off. Not sure what to do as the electrician will want access and if he shuts the electric off or disconnects I’m left without and he may do it at the suggestion of the landlord. Still waiting on shelter to be less busy

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BlanketsBanned · 04/05/2022 16:08

Just call the police

WiddlinDiddlin · 04/05/2022 16:29

TaranThePigKeeper · 04/05/2022 11:15

You need to call the police now, as I advised you last night, and as you were advised by the council earlier.

Why are you in the house today, with your children, if you think he is going to turn up and be violent? Call someone to pick the children up, then call the police and explain you aren’t safe and why. You don’t need to wait for your housing officer to do that.

And again, ring Shelter’s emergency number. You have got to get ahead of this situation.

You do realise some folk do not HAVE anyone to call to pick up the children, who do you suggest the OP calls.. you? me? Santa?

If she left the property without somewhere safe to go, theres a strong chance this nutter would get in and chuck her stuff out and then she'd be even worse off!

TaranThePigKeeper · 04/05/2022 16:35

WiddlinDiddlin · 04/05/2022 16:29

You do realise some folk do not HAVE anyone to call to pick up the children, who do you suggest the OP calls.. you? me? Santa?

If she left the property without somewhere safe to go, theres a strong chance this nutter would get in and chuck her stuff out and then she'd be even worse off!

The OP mentions family who have come and made repairs to the flat, and paid for her deposit. So there is someone who cares for her and her children.

I wouldn’t have my children stay in a place where a landlord, who the OP has said she expects to force entry and be violent, is expected to turn up at any time to turn off the utilities. Would you?

I didn’t say the OP should leave the house herself, by the way.

Perhaps a bit more reading before you leap into sarcasm mode might be useful.

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