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To report my friend for pet neglect?

110 replies

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:04

Please don’t be rude in responses. I feel
awdul enough as it is but I just couldn’t take any more.
I have known my friend for approx 13 years, and in that time she has owned many animals (cats and dogs mostly, but there have also been hamsters and Guinea pigs, now a tortoise!)
At present she owns 3 cats, a chihuahua and the aforementioned tortoise. She lives in a 1 bed housing association flat where I know for a fact she is not allowed to keep these animals as per their rules. But in her last two residences, she ignored that then, too! Not only that, but I am sorry to say she is absolutely hopeless at looking after these animals.
She lives with her partner and their 1 year old daughter (whom I feel awful saying she is not exactly capable of caring for her either; her partner does quite literally everything, and their child is out of control. But that’s another issue. Social Services are already involved there.)
In regards to these animals, she:


  • Leaves them unattended for 2-4 days at a time whilst they (she, her partner and their daughter) go off to stay with friends. This is AT LEAST once a week. When I asked who is looking after the animals in that time, she said “no one.” Like me asking was a stupid question!? I asked “well do you come back to feed them?” And again she said no; she leaves a bowl of biscuits down for them, and a bowl of water. Yes, to last them for 2-4 days! I actually had to double check this with her myself as I couldn’t believe what I was hearing! But no, she has confirmed this to be the case.

  • She has a carer/personal assistant from a care agency who comes in to help her out with some things, and this lady has complained to Social Services before that dog and cat faeces were on the floor!? Near the child? (I did not witness this, but I do not see why this woman would risk her job fabricating this!)

  • She only feeds them biscuits and no meat because she can’t afford it. She’s admitted to being in debt.

  • The tortoise does not have a proper vivarium.

  • The dog is not walked at all (but apparently this isn’t neglect?! Yet it gets little to no exercise so I fail to see how it isn’t neglect?)

  • The dog is not properly trained, and was bought from a shady seller as a one year old dog.

  • She has had to be forced to rehome pets before due to lack of care, and also not being allowed to keep them in the property. Yet she insists on buying more and more! She says she wants pets, but as I have pointed out, they are a huge responsibility, and just because you WANT a pet, doesn’t mean you would be a good owner.

I feel awful but the last straw came when she once again decided to bugger off for days at a time and leave these animals unattended for 4 days around Easter, whilst she went off gallivanting with other friends. According to her neighbours, the dog barked, whined and scratched the doors all day long, every day. And they commented on how they could smell the stench from passing by her doorway after just one day!
We reported her to the RSPCA, and her neighbours reported her to the HA. I am not yet sure of the outcome, but she knows she has been reported. She’s saying that the RSPCA won’t tell her who it was, but they have real cause for concern, especially as they have been called on her numerous times before and she’s been forced to rehome pets many times before.
She’s angry and upset, claims that she’s not a bad pet owner at all, and people are trying to ruin her life.
I have distanced myself from her, and have not told her it was me as she will definitely fly off the handle, and unfortunately she’s one of those people who knows some quite unsavoury characters, shall we say?
She’s already making threats against the neighbours.
I feel wracked with guilt and questioning whether or not I did do the right thing after all? I am not a coward, but she really will make my life hell if I own up. But I just could not sit back and hear about those poor animals being neglected anymore.
She seems completely deluded that it isn’t neglect? Or am I the delusional one here?
I feel like a terrible friend but those animals were clearly suffering.
Was I completely unreasonable in reporting her?

Again, I ask that you please don’t be rude to me in the replies. This is a genuine question because I’m really struggling with my conscience over this.
Thank you for reading. X

OP posts:
LadyTwinkle · 25/04/2022 12:44

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 12:01

Out of interest
How do you hold up a relationship with someone like this?

Tenuously

Notbluepeter · 25/04/2022 12:51

That poor little girl having to live in that mess. It is not normal for a 1 year old to scream and scream at bed time. Is she hungry? Cold? Teething? Ill? Lonely? Has she tried giving some love and affection at night time?! It sounds as if the mother has no clue how to meet her needs either.

Sunnytwobridges · 25/04/2022 13:05

malificent7 · 25/04/2022 06:08

This is so hard. I probably would report. I don't think I could be friends with someone like this.

Agreed. I’d report and end the friendship.

my ex would keep all of his dogs except one crated all day except to let them out to eat/relieve themselves. They were crated for years like this. And he wasn’t nice to them either. It’s one of the many reasons why he’s an ex.

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:13

@LadyTwinkle

i couldn’t be in the same room as him

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:14

Notbluepeter · 25/04/2022 12:51

That poor little girl having to live in that mess. It is not normal for a 1 year old to scream and scream at bed time. Is she hungry? Cold? Teething? Ill? Lonely? Has she tried giving some love and affection at night time?! It sounds as if the mother has no clue how to meet her needs either.

All of the above In all likelihood
plus worse I suspect

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:17

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tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:21

I didn’t actually know about just how neglectful she was of her pets prior to this last year.

so you knew neglectful
just not “how neglectful”

and who looked after the baby when she went off for four days ?

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:24

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:49

No worries! I wish I had known sooner then I could have done something sooner.
That is also where a lot of my guilt lies.

So… don’t let it hang on for ages re the baby

Zwellers · 25/04/2022 15:24

tomatoandherbs are you just continuously going to bash the op or add something useful to the thread.

Zwellers · 25/04/2022 15:27

Op you have done the right thing to report. Now you need to disengage from this person. Her and her dramas are not your issue and you shouldn't feel guilty about it. She's not a friend, she's using you.

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:27

There is a child at serious fucking risk here

Crikeyalmighty · 25/04/2022 15:28

I would report too - she really shouldn't be owning pets if she can't care for them

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:28

Zwellers · 25/04/2022 15:24

tomatoandherbs are you just continuously going to bash the op or add something useful to the thread.

I’m hoping so badly that the Op is galvanised to do something about this baby

and not wait another 13 years.

Memyselfandfood · 25/04/2022 15:33

Yanbu. She doesn’t deserve animals, she needs banning.
she needs reporting every single time.
some people don’t deserve pets.

Rinoachicken · 25/04/2022 16:19

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 15:28

I’m hoping so badly that the Op is galvanised to do something about this baby

and not wait another 13 years.

But she already has, and SS are involved

ToCaden · 25/04/2022 16:28

I wonder if the dog is a stolen pet. Especially if she bought him as an adult anytime during covid. So many dogs and cats were stolen during that time in order to breed or resell if already fixed.

Anyway. You were right to report and should continue to report any new information you come across.

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 16:30

Ss already involved

the op has NOT reported her concerns re the child

mycatisannoying · 25/04/2022 16:30

Report the stupid bitch.

hattie43 · 25/04/2022 16:40

She sounds very chaotic and should have the pets removed , social services are obviously keeping an eye on her child but the pets need removing .

I personally wouldn't be friends with someone like this , she obvious lives outside the bounds of normal .

DogWithMyOwnRoom · 25/04/2022 16:48

Hope you are feeling reassured that you did do the right thing, well done

WDTABNONONO · 25/04/2022 16:56

Not a terrible friend at all.

When vulnerable are involved (animals, children) who can't choose the environment they are in, their needs and wants matter more im afraid.

She's angry as she knows full well her behaviour isn't ok but she's entitled enough to think she can get away with it.

I'd just completely cut contact with her I wouldn't want a friend like that I'd rather be a loner.

You did the right thing.

2bazookas · 25/04/2022 17:09

You did the right thing. This might be her very last wake-up call. If the RSPCA and HA and support agency force her to face the neglect issues (of the pets and the filthy property) it's possible she might realise her child is also in danger of being removed, and step up.

It's not just the animals and home she risks losing :-(

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/04/2022 17:54

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:38

Yes actually it is a very good point…
I thunk her carer reported that to the SS actually (the animal mess on the floor. I remember my “friend” moaning to me about it.)
Oh god. Now I dread to even think what might really be going on…
She’s always maintained that she’s done nothing wrong, she’s doing her best, that “toddlers are just like this at that age”, that people are picking on her because she’s disabled etc. It is now dawning on me that I feel like I’ve been/am being manipulated, as are her friends who defend her behaviour no matter what. Oh god.
I don’t know if I even want to know what’s really going on behind closed doors now! She’s always made out like she’s a good mum and a good person, but you’ve raised a very valid point and now I’m left wondering what on Earth the reality is?!
I feel so bloody stupid. Really have been so blind to the truth. Those poor animals :’( and potentially that poor girl! Sadly I don’t have enough information about her to make a report, otherwise I absolutely would!

You really do not need substantial information to report something. When I reported something to the school when dd was small (of a child, who I later discovered had SS involvement and was eventually removed), the teacher told me to report anything however small. He obviously didn’t divulge anything about the family situation but said any information is collated to create a wider picture.

So yes, please do report this. You have quite a lot to say actually and it will help to create this wider picture. Right now, SS may think the family is coping. But they are perhaps not aware of the screaming and crying at night and the animal abuse etc.

I am sorry you’re having a hard time. It is truly difficult to ascertain the truth. I was friendly with the mum in the example above. She was struggling with her children. However, she eventually had some kind of mental breakdown in the end and stopped feeding her kids.

Your friend may be disabled and have a carer. However, that does not excuse abuse. I’m disabled btw and looking after my dd has been a massive struggle. Obviously my disability is not the same as hers. But please do not think it is a pass to treating children and animals poorly.

timestheyarechanging · 25/04/2022 18:59

Dont beat yourself up over the last 13 odd years. You didn't know. You've done the right thing.hopefully her pets will be rehomed with people who will love and take care of them.

dondon23 · 25/04/2022 19:10

100% I'd report this!! Those poor animals and her baby 😡

I actually can't believe 3% of voters think you're being unreasonable.....