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To report my friend for pet neglect?

110 replies

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:04

Please don’t be rude in responses. I feel
awdul enough as it is but I just couldn’t take any more.
I have known my friend for approx 13 years, and in that time she has owned many animals (cats and dogs mostly, but there have also been hamsters and Guinea pigs, now a tortoise!)
At present she owns 3 cats, a chihuahua and the aforementioned tortoise. She lives in a 1 bed housing association flat where I know for a fact she is not allowed to keep these animals as per their rules. But in her last two residences, she ignored that then, too! Not only that, but I am sorry to say she is absolutely hopeless at looking after these animals.
She lives with her partner and their 1 year old daughter (whom I feel awful saying she is not exactly capable of caring for her either; her partner does quite literally everything, and their child is out of control. But that’s another issue. Social Services are already involved there.)
In regards to these animals, she:


  • Leaves them unattended for 2-4 days at a time whilst they (she, her partner and their daughter) go off to stay with friends. This is AT LEAST once a week. When I asked who is looking after the animals in that time, she said “no one.” Like me asking was a stupid question!? I asked “well do you come back to feed them?” And again she said no; she leaves a bowl of biscuits down for them, and a bowl of water. Yes, to last them for 2-4 days! I actually had to double check this with her myself as I couldn’t believe what I was hearing! But no, she has confirmed this to be the case.

  • She has a carer/personal assistant from a care agency who comes in to help her out with some things, and this lady has complained to Social Services before that dog and cat faeces were on the floor!? Near the child? (I did not witness this, but I do not see why this woman would risk her job fabricating this!)

  • She only feeds them biscuits and no meat because she can’t afford it. She’s admitted to being in debt.

  • The tortoise does not have a proper vivarium.

  • The dog is not walked at all (but apparently this isn’t neglect?! Yet it gets little to no exercise so I fail to see how it isn’t neglect?)

  • The dog is not properly trained, and was bought from a shady seller as a one year old dog.

  • She has had to be forced to rehome pets before due to lack of care, and also not being allowed to keep them in the property. Yet she insists on buying more and more! She says she wants pets, but as I have pointed out, they are a huge responsibility, and just because you WANT a pet, doesn’t mean you would be a good owner.

I feel awful but the last straw came when she once again decided to bugger off for days at a time and leave these animals unattended for 4 days around Easter, whilst she went off gallivanting with other friends. According to her neighbours, the dog barked, whined and scratched the doors all day long, every day. And they commented on how they could smell the stench from passing by her doorway after just one day!
We reported her to the RSPCA, and her neighbours reported her to the HA. I am not yet sure of the outcome, but she knows she has been reported. She’s saying that the RSPCA won’t tell her who it was, but they have real cause for concern, especially as they have been called on her numerous times before and she’s been forced to rehome pets many times before.
She’s angry and upset, claims that she’s not a bad pet owner at all, and people are trying to ruin her life.
I have distanced myself from her, and have not told her it was me as she will definitely fly off the handle, and unfortunately she’s one of those people who knows some quite unsavoury characters, shall we say?
She’s already making threats against the neighbours.
I feel wracked with guilt and questioning whether or not I did do the right thing after all? I am not a coward, but she really will make my life hell if I own up. But I just could not sit back and hear about those poor animals being neglected anymore.
She seems completely deluded that it isn’t neglect? Or am I the delusional one here?
I feel like a terrible friend but those animals were clearly suffering.
Was I completely unreasonable in reporting her?

Again, I ask that you please don’t be rude to me in the replies. This is a genuine question because I’m really struggling with my conscience over this.
Thank you for reading. X

OP posts:
loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:51

It would seem*
Again, sorry for typos!

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RosieLeeD · 25/04/2022 06:54

You definitely did the right thing and don't feel guilty about doing it sooner, you were in a difficult position that you shouldn't have been put in.

Personally I wouldn't want to be friends will someone like that and would gradually start to distance myself.

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:54

Yes it is. I already made the report. I unfortunately don’t have the room at home to have another pet, so I can’t exactly steal it. Plus I don’t steal… but I did report as soon as I was aware of an ongoing issue.
also it isn’t just a dog; there are three cats and a tortoise too.

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loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 06:56

I fear it may actually get more difficult if she finds out it was me, but I could not just let it continue. Especially after finding out she’s got “previous”!
Yes I am distancing myself from her

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Mummyoflittledragon · 25/04/2022 07:04

Emelene · 25/04/2022 06:34

You’ve done the right thing OP. Do you have specific concerns about the child too? I know you said SS are already involved but is there anything they need to know from you?

This is a very good point. They should be informed neither parent understands leaving animals for protracted periods is neglect. And the mess they must leave dangerous to their toddler, especially the faeces for it is unlikely they regularly worm them. Poor animals. They must get so hungry and scared. YANBU to have reported her.

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/04/2022 07:07

Gosh I’ve just seen your update. Poor little girl. If this is what she’s admitting to, I would wonder how bad it is.

We really need a refresh page button.

AllOfUsAreDead · 25/04/2022 07:16

Of course you haven't done the wrong thing. She sounds completely useless as a person, let alone be a good mother or pet owner. Hopefully she has the pets removed, and for the child's sake her too. But she'll just buy more animals and pop out another kid, she doesn't sound like she actually cares for them, just wants to have them. It's really sad. 🙁

ZealAndArdour · 25/04/2022 07:21

You have done the right thing. I don’t think I could maintain a friendship with this utter fucking chaos goblin.

Anotherselfemployedcleaner · 25/04/2022 07:27

Who on earth has voted that YABU? And why? 2% at the time of posting this, so that’s 3 people (rounded up).

saraclara · 25/04/2022 07:37

I'm more worried about the child.

Interesting that in another thread, posters are insisting that health visitors are unnecessary and intrusive agents of the state who no parent should have to accept in their home.

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:38

Yes actually it is a very good point…
I thunk her carer reported that to the SS actually (the animal mess on the floor. I remember my “friend” moaning to me about it.)
Oh god. Now I dread to even think what might really be going on…
She’s always maintained that she’s done nothing wrong, she’s doing her best, that “toddlers are just like this at that age”, that people are picking on her because she’s disabled etc. It is now dawning on me that I feel like I’ve been/am being manipulated, as are her friends who defend her behaviour no matter what. Oh god.
I don’t know if I even want to know what’s really going on behind closed doors now! She’s always made out like she’s a good mum and a good person, but you’ve raised a very valid point and now I’m left wondering what on Earth the reality is?!
I feel so bloody stupid. Really have been so blind to the truth. Those poor animals :’( and potentially that poor girl! Sadly I don’t have enough information about her to make a report, otherwise I absolutely would!

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UnsuitableHat · 25/04/2022 07:42

You did the right thing. Poor animals and what a chaotic situation.

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:46

They are?! How absurd!
Our Healrh Visitor was lovely… we had no issues at all. They are there for the good of the child! I’ve always valued our HV personally?
I think they are completely necessary for the wellbeing of both the baby/babies and new mums alike!

I am definitely concerned for both the animals and child now that someone has raised valid points about the woman in question’s overall blasé and downright careless attitude towards the two potentially being linked. (I hope ice made sense there?)

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loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:49

Really!? There’s always one (or a few!) I guess! 🙄 So they’d just accept this then?
Charming!

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loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:52

Thank you. I dread to think what will happen to me and my family once she finds out I did it.
No you’re right, I don’t wish to stay friends with her anymore.
(Off-topic, but hilarious and fitting choice of insult, by the way! 😂)

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saraclara · 25/04/2022 07:54

Why does she have a carer?

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:57

Thanks all, for the responses.
It is some comfort I suppose, knowing I’m not going completely mad or am being a terrible person in reporting this.
Unfortunately, as others have quite rightly pointed out, now I am also worried about the child too. Sadly I don’t have enough information or indeed any evidence, on her to do or say anything to anyone. I sincerely hope that someone who does know, does speak up on her behalf!
Thanks again.

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Xpologog · 25/04/2022 07:58
  1. You did the right thing calling RSPCA.
  2. You do not have to tell her it was you.
  3. As soon as she goes away again call the RSPCA, as they will remove the animals if found alone. Overnight is ok for cats with litter trays, lots of water and space to spread out. A dog cannot be left as needs to go out to wee etc..
  4. If you are ever concerned about the child call SS, they need to be aware of the whole picture, not just what is presented at pre arranged visits.
You’re not being a busybody. Child welfare, animal welfare is all our responsibility. Your friend appears to have a MH problem, the gathering of pets ( usually inadequately cared for) seems to be similar to hoarding belongings.

Don’t say anything to her about reporting her. Hopefully she’ll be banned eventually from pet ownership.

Ellmau · 25/04/2022 08:24

Report to the landlord as well.

Alightjacket · 25/04/2022 08:36

Absolutely did the right thing. Well done.

This is not someone I could be friends with.

toastfiend · 25/04/2022 08:38

I couldn't be friends with her. I'd report her to any organisations I could, and I'd keep reporting until she was banned from keeping animals.

I've noticed in the past that those people who "collect" animals are often the ones who are least able to care for them properly.

FirewomanSam · 25/04/2022 08:49

I’m not normally an overly hysterical person about animals but thinking about a dog being left alone for 4 days genuinely made me well up a bit.

Some cats are ok with being left for couple of days (four is way too long) with an automatic feeder and a litter tray, but dogs can’t handle more than a few hours.

I’m genuinely sorry for your friend if she’s struggling but her pets need new homes ASAP. Those poor poor animals.

Favouritefruits · 25/04/2022 09:00

You’ve done those animals a good deed! Don’t feel bad at all you did what is right! I wish more people were like you, those animals will hopefully get rehoused and have an amazing life all thanks to you.

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 09:03

please don’t be rude

op, please don’t continue to be an utterly spineless person. Fgs it’s the child I’m most worried about

tomatoandherbs · 25/04/2022 09:03

loveoflavender · 25/04/2022 07:57

Thanks all, for the responses.
It is some comfort I suppose, knowing I’m not going completely mad or am being a terrible person in reporting this.
Unfortunately, as others have quite rightly pointed out, now I am also worried about the child too. Sadly I don’t have enough information or indeed any evidence, on her to do or say anything to anyone. I sincerely hope that someone who does know, does speak up on her behalf!
Thanks again.

On what possible planet could you think you were a terrible person for reporting??

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