To ask wwyd about this work situation?

[justexisting22]

I've been angry for a few days following a recent salary review at work and I can't stop thinking over it in my head. I really need advice on how to handle the situation as I feel like I've been really undervalued and I'm seriously wondering now whether or not I should look for a new position at a totally different company.

For some background, my "new" salary for this year was my base salary last year, however this was pro rata to £Xk a year, as I worked part time but then changed to full time when I started a new role. So I'm wondering if is that even correct? Should this not have increased when I went back full time?

I've been at this company for 6 years, have qualifications experience etc, yet I'm still only on the starting salary for my position. It just doesn't seem right to me and to be honest I've been so upset and angry about it

AIBU to think I should just look elsewhere?

@Merryoldgoat I agree and give up. Each time I think I’ve grasped what’s going on something else comes up that appears to change everything. OP in the kindest way, I suggest that you work on how you communicate. Whatever has actually gone on, you’re clearly aggrieved at your lack of progress up the pay scale. If your communication style is similar at work to how it has come across on here, it could very well be holding you back.

This is why transparency regarding salaries and grades are important.

Yes I sgeee.

I get a 10% rise based on me working one day a week. If I went back to 5 days I'd just get 5 times the new base.
It works out the same either way.

This is why transparency regarding salaries and grades are important.

Well, I think transparency is a good thing because it helps show discrimination. But in cases like this it makes things worse; the OP is aggrieved because she thinks she works harder than other people, which is very subjective and also isn't particularly relevant to salary levels. It's not the same as finding out your three male colleagues in the same role as you but with less experience are all earning £10k more.

Exactly, ten percent on full time is exactly the same as ten percent on part time. It’s the same number. Because the increase is prorated when it comes to actual pay.

op I think you are thinking you should get the whole full time increase. You would not. You get the pro rated amount of that increase based on how much you work.

do not go to management and say it should be ten percent of the full amount, because it’s identical and it is ten percent of the full amount, it’s just you work part time so your pay is pro rated accordingly.

as for the colleague, unless their role is identical and you know what their base salary is, then it’s irrelevant. They may have had lower pay last year so got a bigger increase to bring it up.

it’s taken you a very long time to explain this to everyone, and it was so confused.

but the bottom line is, ten percent on part time hours is the exact same as ten percent on full time hours. You do not get the whole increase on the full time wage becayse you do not work full time. You are still only entitled to the pro rated pay for what you work.

A 10% payrise is the same based on FTE as it is on Pro rata
My job pays £40000 FTE and I work 0.6 FTE over 3 days so my actual salary is £24000
If I get a 5% payrise that takes my FTE to £42000 and my pro rata to £25200 but if you worked out a 5% payrise on my pro rata salary its the same -
£24000 x 5% = £1200 so end salary is £25200 each way
I'm so confused

I think the op was thinking, in your scenario, she should get the full 2000 not the 1200. She was forgetting the total new pay also needs to be prorated.

First check your current pay isn't an error. If it's not - Leave.

Why dont you just go to HR and say you havent had a decent increase and you know that grades below you are on a lot more?

So basically you’ve moved role and your new role is only £100 more. The whole part time full time thing is totally irrelevant. Bloody hell, I hope written communication isn’t part of your role.

This sounds like a mistake. I would go to HR and ask for a full written explanation.

If you think there are conflicting responses it is only because nobody can make any sense whatsoever of what you are saying. You are completely incoherent. Just as I think I have worked it out you say something else and the situation changes again.

You could provide a few basic facts and this could have been answered seven pages ago, instead you keep up this nonsensical dialogue.

All you need to state is what your previous salary and %FTE was and what the current salary and %FTE is. Just what it is, as shown on a payslip, no “prorata” caveats which you are unclear on, just facts. Nobody is going to recognise you from that but people can perhaps provide some insight and opinion.

My thoughts on this very confusing thread:

1. Ask for clarification on how the increase was worked out/ on what is was based (don't give your thoughts, just ask for facts)


2. Work on your communication - you must be totally clear and succinct when it comes to the question and what you want out of it


3. Never, ever, base your own salary negotiation on what someone else is earning - base it on your own worth and justify what you bring to the business. Only then can you bring in market worth.

You don’t do maths or communication OP, sorry.

Are you sure that the £19,600 isn't the new pro rata amount? So you've gone from £18,100 to £19,600?

For instance:
Full time salary 30k
You worked part time so 19k
New role (full time?) has increased by less than £100 of 30k.
Look on Indeed for similar roles to compare salary.
Look for another job before giving up the one you have.

Loyalty counts for nothing nowadays... sadly.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what has happened, only the OP is ignoring that she's working 2.5 hours less per week than when she was earning £19,500.

Yes! So it would be:

Last year:
FTE: £19,500
Pro rata: £18,100

Now:
FTE: £21,116
Pro rata: £19,600

Which is roughly an 8.3% pay rise.

@Sunnysideup has nailed it.

I really don't think we can assume that. The OP has confirmed three times that a poster has got it right, and all three understand the post differently. You can get more sense out of Alphabetti Spaghetti.

yes i have said before, if you work 30 mins less a day than most, if fyll time is 8 hours, you are doing 6% less hours, so get 6% less pay.

so that PLUS an 8% rise may well just give you £100 more.

OP - can you find someone nice and discreet in the finance team who you could show payslips to and set things out? they (like i could in person) could generally sort you out in 5 mins when they have numbers in front of them.

I'm confused as to why you accepted the new job without having any idea how much better off you'd be.

I'd never accept a job, promotion or anything else unless I knew how much I would be paid.

Why would they mention pro rata when you are working full time now! Do you know what pro rata means?

OP said at 25/04/2022 09:24 "I still work 30 mins less, that part hasn’t changed so don’t understand why pro rata wasn’t mentioned again this year'

So she is still reduced hours / pro rata.