To ask wwyd about this work situation?

[justexisting22]

I've been angry for a few days following a recent salary review at work and I can't stop thinking over it in my head. I really need advice on how to handle the situation as I feel like I've been really undervalued and I'm seriously wondering now whether or not I should look for a new position at a totally different company.

For some background, my "new" salary for this year was my base salary last year, however this was pro rata to £Xk a year, as I worked part time but then changed to full time when I started a new role. So I'm wondering if is that even correct? Should this not have increased when I went back full time?

I've been at this company for 6 years, have qualifications experience etc, yet I'm still only on the starting salary for my position. It just doesn't seem right to me and to be honest I've been so upset and angry about it

AIBU to think I should just look elsewhere?

Again, this isn't unusual or surprising. People negotiate differently, have different levels of experience, and different skills. Salary is rarely proportional to effort but instead to skills and value.

You seem very naive about employment and how things work and you're pretty incoherent. I wouldn't bring any of this up with your manager or HR until you've calmed down, gathered your thoughts, and talked to some more experienced people.

@ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave So you think I should just accept it?

So you think I should just accept it?

If you have a case as to why your experience and skills are worth more than they're offering, and you could get more by jumping ship, then by all means give it a go. But your arguments shouldn't include "I'm furious", "other people in other roles do less than me and earn more!", "I'm loyal to the company" or "It's only £100 more than my FTE salary last year."

E.g. last year’s salary before pro rata £10,000, now £10,100
I don't think I am the only person struggling to understand this. You need to give amounts, dates and hours of work because you seem to be contradicting yourself in various posts.

@ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave I appreciate your feedback. Sometimes I can find it hard not to let emotions get the better of me, but like you said I need to make sure that I’m not being incoherent as it won’t help me in this situation

Your question was what would I do.

If I worked (say) twenty hours for £25k, then went to 40 hours and still got £25k, I'd go back to working 20 hours, as that is what they are paying for.

And I'd tell them I'm doing that until they put it right and pay the back pay.

Meanwhile I'd look for a job where they're not so dishonest.

Take your salary for last year divide it by the hours you worked, that is essentially your hourly rate, now multiply by your new hours, that is what you should be on. Even when not hourly salaried, the pro rate still uses an hour as a unit.

Eg:
£10,000 actual years salary / 30 hours per week / 52 weeks = £6.41

£6.41 x 40 hours per week x 52 weeks = £13,333 should be your new salary. Any pay increase should be over and above that.

It does sound like a mistake -

you are basically working - how many hours more per week between part time and full time?

It happened to me based on a starting salary which I negotiated upwards - they were paying me the lower figure - I questioned it and they gave me it back dated .

I think you just need to approach HR via email but be clearer with them.

I worked x hours and was paid y per month
I now work z hours yet my pay is a per month

it appears by salary has gone backwards please can you explain?

Do you get payslips?
It sounds like your hourly rate has gone down.
I can't do the maths for you as there isn't enough information, but if your hours have gone up without a material change in your position/responsibility/expectations, then I would assume your pay should have gone up by the relevant amount.
If your salary is under the market amount, then I'd ask for a raise based on this (not on what colleagues have told you) or look elsewhere.

im finding your posts really hard to follow (but maybe that’s me and I should go to bed!) at first you seem to say that your full time hours are the same as part time, then 100 more, then that your new role is only 100 more than your old one if your old one was full time. which is the correct scenario??
it seems that either there has been a massive cock up, however if you’ve already raised it with you manager and they weren’t alarmed this seems unlikely.. Or you have massively misunderstood your salary.

Do you work for a larger blue chip or a smaller company. Larger companies have (in the main) a well documented way of working out salary ranges and increments for the very reason that they may get accused of unfair practice. You did right to ask your manager about how your pay rise is calculated. It should be based on three things if you work for a large organization. How your performance is graded for the last performance period, where you sit in your salary band and how the band has performed against market rates in the same sector. If you work for a smaller company, the whole thing could be completely subjective. The only reason to stick with a job below market rate is if it comes with some other perks you can’t get elsewhere, like flexible working, special training or high pension contribution. If this isn’t the case, the you should move.

It’s not just you. It is hard to follow.

OP, can you give:

old post: hours per week, gross salary
new post: hours per week, gross salary

That won’t be outing, and will help people see what is going on.

I think there seems to be a lot of educated and experienced posters on this thread and they could help if you gave them actual figures.

OP, can you give simple figures/details so we can understand? Eg

In Jan 21 i worked 37.5 pw on 20,000 annual salary

In April 21 I dropped to 20hrs pw and my salary dropped to 5,000 pa

Jan 22 I changed job role and increased my hrs to 37.5pw. I'm now in 20,100pa.

Have you got these changes in writing? Is the new role a similar responsibility level to the previous job? Were you asked to change or did you go for internal move/promotion?

OP was on, say, £10,000 FTE but because she worked part time, her actual pay was £5,000.

She's now on full-time hours in a different role and her salary is £10,100 FTE.

So she HAS had a pay rise but thinks her new role should pay more FTE than the old one.

Couldn't that 30 mins a day less than full time explain the difference?

So if £100k for an 8 hour day, you'd get 93.75k if did 7.5 hour day. Plus you had a pay rise do now getting a bit more due to that.

I presume you are comparing gross pay with gross, and not your net pay with your old net pay?

I've had employee ls furious because their "hourly" rate has gone down when they increased hours, but it was actually that their tax had gone up as their earnings had.

I second calming down and taking the emotion out of it and get Payroll/HR to explain it to you. Then you can see if it's an error, and if not, what to do.

*employees furious

Either they don’t like you or they’ve messed up. Surprisingly common, the messing up. Talk to HR not us.

its hard to work out what’s going on here, but with the help of various posters we seem to be clarifying that the op has had a miniscule pay rise. Is this £100 extra take home per month? Ie a few k total, or extra gross per year Ie pennies?

Oh c’mon, just tell us straight what the situation is.

Then we can help you with a plan.

Sounds like you've been diddled

Still, six years? Time for a move. Put your profile to 'open to work' on LinkedIn

Agreed, because I'm unable to follow! You've agreed to it being two completely different scenarios.

The way I see it, is if your old amount was 10k before pro rata, you then dropped to part time and incurred the relevant drop in pay, and you've now gone back full from and are on £10,100 per year then to me that is correct, you've gone back up to the full time salary and have had a small cost of living percentage increase. Unless I am missing something??

Last year I moved jobs

is this where the discrepancy arose, is your new job graded the same as your old job?