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Husband keeps pushing for me to go back to work full time.

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PaddlingLikeADuck · 24/04/2022 10:49

As our family situation currently stands my husband works full time and I work 25 hours over 3 days. I dropped to 25 hours after our second son was born but I always worked full time before that.

Our two children are now aged 8 and 4. The 4 year old is due to start school this year.

Our current take home pay per month (jointly) is just under £4k which I consider to be a comfortable amount and and one we can have a nice lifestyle with.

In August I am getting a promotion and increasing my hours up to 30 hours a week and so our monthly bring home pay will increase further so up to just under £5k a month.

As it stands, my plan is for me to work 4 days a week (8 hour days) and have one day off in the middle of the week. My husband however is being really pushy about me working full time as opposed to “just working 30 hours.”

I said it will really help us with me having one day off a week because if anything untoward comes up, one of the children takes ill, appointments come up, school assemblies etc I have the option to change my days to accommodate this. I’m very lucky to have a job where I can be very flexible with my days.

I said I will still be doing 30 hours a week so it’s hardly like I will be a lady of leisure at home whilst the children are at school and whilst he works.

As it stands, he is home by 4pm most days whereas my work days means I’m not home until 6.30pm, if not a little later. This would mean that me working 5 days a week will result in me hardly getting any time in the evening with the children whereas my husband would spend every evening with them from 4pm onwards.

He also works in a school so he gets all the holidays off which again means he gets lots of quality time with them that I don’t. And one day a weekend they go out together for about 6 hours for a sport related event, so that’s more time that I’m not with them.

I said that I just want to be able to spend at least one day in the week to see my children, and to be able to collect them from school and have some quality time with them, as opposed to not getting home until an hour before their bedtime every night.

He’s just keeps pushing it though.

I said I don’t understand why, for the sake of me working 7.5 hours less than full time, he would begrudge me wanting to spend more time with the children.

I get it that if I financially hard to work full time for our family situation to be manageable then I would, but I don’t and we manage perfectly fine already, never mind after my upcoming promotion and increase in hours.

My husband is very money focused though and instead of thinking about how comfortable we already are, and will be even more come August, he just keeps saying “but think how much more money we would have if you went full time.”

His priority is money whereas mine just isn’t, especially when the children are so young.

He brings it up all the time and it usually ends up in a mini argument where we just go round in circles.

AIBU about this?

OP posts:
jimbobalot · 24/04/2022 10:51

Your priorities are very different… difficult to align those.

can you join the weekend hobby sometimes?

MalbecandToast · 24/04/2022 10:53

Sorry but I'm with your husband on this, with children that age I would expect you to be full time too really. Weekends are there for quality time with the children.

CharSiu · 24/04/2022 10:53

It’s almost FT isn’t it. He is jealous of you having more perceived free time. Are you planning on laying on a chaise all day being fanned and fed grapes? If so then I can see why he would have a point.

I bet however you plan on doing chores, maybe some food shopping and God forbid having a quick coffee with a friend.

Nix32 · 24/04/2022 10:56

It's not even a day off, is it - it's 6 hours while the children are at school. Just about time to run errands, hoover round and catch your breath. Absolutely stay at 4 days.

Hermanfromguesswho · 24/04/2022 10:56

Is he a teacher or a TA? If he works school hours only and not in the holidays then he’s working similar or less than your hours surely?
tell him you’ll work 5 days a week if he gets a summer holiday job?

2pinkginsplease · 24/04/2022 10:56

I think 30hrs is perfect, you have a day off midweek to do housework, organise appointments etc and then the weekend is spent as family time.

id tell your dh that you aren’t upping your hours anymore and you aren’t willing to discuss it any more, end of.

im working 40hrs and debating cutting to 32 as I feel my weekends are wasted on housework, washings etc and I don’t have quality time to spend with anyone,.

you work to live, not live to work! Your promotion is giving you extra month income.

Tangled123 · 24/04/2022 10:58

If the kids are at school, you won’t be getting that much more free time with them anyway?
I’m still on your side though. Work to live, not live to work.

Geneticsbunny · 24/04/2022 10:59

Who is going to do the huge amounts of child related admin and when are they going to do it? I am thinking school paperwork, birthdays, social life organising, homework etc.

Getoffmyshoes · 24/04/2022 10:59

We don’t have kids yet but I’ve explained to DP that this is a non-negotiable for me, I plan to go part time when I have kids and probably never go back full time. He’s very supportive of this and values the time I’ll be spending raising the kids/looking after the house etc. I’m not sure I’d have much respect for him if he expected me to do the bulk of running the house and also work full time.

Knockon · 24/04/2022 10:59

Like the idea of arguing for a holiday job for him, as think how nuch more money you would have if he had a double income over 13 weeks…

Efortyjive · 24/04/2022 11:00

Ask him to get a job in the school holidays minus 28 days plus bank holidays?

RenegadeKeeblerElf · 24/04/2022 11:01

For me I think it depends on the difference between your incomes. If the reason that you as a family are comfortable despite you working part time is that is he is a higher earner, then I don't think it is fair for him to be effectively subsidising your part time hours. But if you earn well and your contribution to the household pot is relatively even then I think you should be able to work the hours that give you a good work/life balance.

In the latter scenario I would suggest to him that he is free to choose to work less hours if he wanted to and that you would support that, but that just because he chooses to work full time he can't expect you to feel forced to make the same choice.

Justwingingit2005 · 24/04/2022 11:03

I did the same as u, dropped from full time to part time when I had kids.
I did 24 hrs until my youngest was 6 or 7 then up to 30 then once at secondary school I did 37.5.
I also told DH equal working hours means equally sharing house jobs, childcare when ill etc.
One day off a week esp when at primary school is invaluable in my opinion as long as u can afford to be part time.

Topseyt123 · 24/04/2022 11:06

30 hours a week is hardly much off full time anyway.

Stick to your guns. You are fine as you are. Tell him he needs to get his head out of his arse.

LampLighter414 · 24/04/2022 11:06

I know the teachers of mumsnet like to say their holiday isn't holiday but... he gets 13 weeks off a year.

Tell him to find temp work for the summer if he is insistent on you working full time or thinks your household could do with more money. I bet he won't.

TerribleCustomerCervix · 24/04/2022 11:07

Have you actually compared the income for the hours you’ve already agreed against full time?

I do 30 hours instead of 35 and the difference after tax is only about £170. I’m obviously not a high earner, but the work/life balance afforded by the reduction in hours is more than worth it for me.

doingitforthegirls · 24/04/2022 11:09

Who earns more? Resentment can easily build if he earns a lot more and he perceives you not wanting to contribute more evenly financially by doing that extra day? It's just compounded by the fact he is a teacher whereas you are obviously not so you don't get the school holidays with them? Unfortunately that's just life

Suprima · 24/04/2022 11:11

Lol I’d be telling him to get a job in the holidays- ‘imagine how much money we’d have!’

or to train to be a teacher! ‘That would be a big pay rise!’

ultimately no advice here because at a values-level he does not give a shit about child admin, housework and the benefits of being flexible. He doesn’t respect all of the unpaid work you do and unfortunately this will never change.

definitely stick with your 4 days

Antarcticant · 24/04/2022 11:12

I think your having one extra day off a week is a fair balance with your husband having longer holidays. If you needed the money, it might be different, but you are clearly very comfortable so why work more hours just for the sake of it?

coffeeaddict18 · 24/04/2022 11:14

Well I'm part time 4 days and don't even have kids yet! I did it for my work life balance. My DH still works full time and he's fine with it. I think your husband is being unreasonable.

Whooshaagh · 24/04/2022 11:18

LampLighter414 · 24/04/2022 11:06

I know the teachers of mumsnet like to say their holiday isn't holiday but... he gets 13 weeks off a year.

Tell him to find temp work for the summer if he is insistent on you working full time or thinks your household could do with more money. I bet he won't.

My dsis is a teacher and during the 6 week summer holiday she only works part of the last week.
The other holidays she may work a day or two at the end. Teachers really do get about 10 full weeks holiday a year which they deserve because they mostly work ridiculous hours in term time.

OP my other dsis’s ex became an ex for this reason, he actually accused my dsis of abusing him by not working full time. Dsis had chronic mental health problems and even working part time was a struggle for her but he couldn’t accept this. Stand firm.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 24/04/2022 11:20

I think it depends on

How chores are split, if you do more is he happy to pick up the slack of what you get done on your day off

How much your kids need you to be available eg for appointments, sports days etc as presumably your husband can't do those days. If you have a child for example that has a lot of medical appointments then you need that time

What your respective salaries are. If you are already bringing in more than him then maybe he should concentrate on what he can do to improve family finances

How many days off you each have a year when you include holiday (and take out any holidays he has to use to mark or lesson plan etc). If he has significantly more than you then maybe he should be planning how to use his time to improve finances such as additional tutoring or marking in holidays

Ohquietone · 24/04/2022 11:21

How do you split chores? It sounds like he’s a little jealous but like you’ve said very money focused. If he’s a teacher, I would suggest to him that if he wants more money he do a summer job or some after school tutoring.

PaddlingLikeADuck · 24/04/2022 11:23

Thanks everyone for your comments.

My husband works in a school and is part of the senior leadership team and alongside that he does the pastoral care and some teaching. I am a specialist nurse within the NHS.

As it stands with me being part time my monthly bring home pay is just over half of what he brings home.

When I get my promotion, alongside the increase in my hours, my bring home pay will be about £850 less than him. If I were to go back full time then obviously this disparity would be less but not by a vast amount after tax and pension increases.

I like the suggestion of telling him to get his head out of his arse.

Im scared I will resent him if I’m only getting one hour per evening with the children whereas he gets 3.5 hours each evening, plus the weekend day he has with them, plus all the holidays he gets due to his job.

It feels like I did the majority of care during the difficult years, doing all the mental load and housework, just experiencing the general tedium of being at home with young children etc and now that things are getting easier now the children are older I’m being shoved back into full time work whilst he gets to spend all the time with the children.

it just sucks a bit.

OP posts:
howtomoveforwards · 24/04/2022 11:23

If he's a teacher or a TA, then he's got 13 weeks a year he could also be working summer school, exam marking, tutoring, holiday clubs, catch up classes, the NTP programme, teaching TOEFL on holiday camps/leading holiday camps, sports coaching (year round, not just holidays), etc etc etc There is a huge amount of temp work available for school staff if they need it. I think you need to do some calculations and look at how much extra he could be bringing in if he worked even half of his holiday time and how that might compare to your one day a week. If you are expected to maximise income, so is he. I suspect he will change his tune when presented with it in that way.

I say that as a single parent teacher who has to work during the holidays to make ends meet. I teach English in the summer mornings only, for example, as well as tutor throughout the year and exam mark both in January and the summer. I am permanently knackered but that's life, isn't it?

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