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Husband keeps pushing for me to go back to work full time.

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PaddlingLikeADuck · 24/04/2022 10:49

As our family situation currently stands my husband works full time and I work 25 hours over 3 days. I dropped to 25 hours after our second son was born but I always worked full time before that.

Our two children are now aged 8 and 4. The 4 year old is due to start school this year.

Our current take home pay per month (jointly) is just under £4k which I consider to be a comfortable amount and and one we can have a nice lifestyle with.

In August I am getting a promotion and increasing my hours up to 30 hours a week and so our monthly bring home pay will increase further so up to just under £5k a month.

As it stands, my plan is for me to work 4 days a week (8 hour days) and have one day off in the middle of the week. My husband however is being really pushy about me working full time as opposed to “just working 30 hours.”

I said it will really help us with me having one day off a week because if anything untoward comes up, one of the children takes ill, appointments come up, school assemblies etc I have the option to change my days to accommodate this. I’m very lucky to have a job where I can be very flexible with my days.

I said I will still be doing 30 hours a week so it’s hardly like I will be a lady of leisure at home whilst the children are at school and whilst he works.

As it stands, he is home by 4pm most days whereas my work days means I’m not home until 6.30pm, if not a little later. This would mean that me working 5 days a week will result in me hardly getting any time in the evening with the children whereas my husband would spend every evening with them from 4pm onwards.

He also works in a school so he gets all the holidays off which again means he gets lots of quality time with them that I don’t. And one day a weekend they go out together for about 6 hours for a sport related event, so that’s more time that I’m not with them.

I said that I just want to be able to spend at least one day in the week to see my children, and to be able to collect them from school and have some quality time with them, as opposed to not getting home until an hour before their bedtime every night.

He’s just keeps pushing it though.

I said I don’t understand why, for the sake of me working 7.5 hours less than full time, he would begrudge me wanting to spend more time with the children.

I get it that if I financially hard to work full time for our family situation to be manageable then I would, but I don’t and we manage perfectly fine already, never mind after my upcoming promotion and increase in hours.

My husband is very money focused though and instead of thinking about how comfortable we already are, and will be even more come August, he just keeps saying “but think how much more money we would have if you went full time.”

His priority is money whereas mine just isn’t, especially when the children are so young.

He brings it up all the time and it usually ends up in a mini argument where we just go round in circles.

AIBU about this?

OP posts:
CaptainMerica · 24/04/2022 11:23

I do think that if one partner is going to be working less, then the other needs to agree.

However, I'm in the same position - youngest starting school, and I'm planning to stick to my 30 hours.

I'm currently doing 4 full days, and planning to switch to 5 days with 3 early finishes for school pickup. (I had hoped to increase my hours, but there is no after-school childcare available since covid put the only club out of business.)

In your position I probably would go up to 34 or 35 hours, but your decision is also valid - but I do think you need to convince your DH of the benefits.

Comedycook · 24/04/2022 11:23

I agree with you op. Ok, your kids are in school but you are still working 30hours and there is so much to do in terms of looking after a house and dealing with kids ..as you say, appointments, school events etc. I bet he will still expect you to the lion share of kid,/house work even if you worked full time. He sounds horribly greedy

RampantIvy · 24/04/2022 11:25

MalbecandToast · 24/04/2022 10:53

Sorry but I'm with your husband on this, with children that age I would expect you to be full time too really. Weekends are there for quality time with the children.

Seriously?
The increase in salary that the OP brings in will probably be spent on outsourcing stuff she might be able to do herself - childcare, cleaning, gardening, other household jobs (although I would expect the husband to be pulling his weight as well).

£5k a month is an excellent income.

Namenic · 24/04/2022 11:25

He sounds v annoying and begrudging. Could you bargain and accept less spending money? Is there anything you do more of than him - eg housework/childcare/child health that you should point out? What is his plan for if the children get sick? Who will take time off work and what happens if kids get ill for a couple of weeks in a row?

Sunshinegirl82 · 24/04/2022 11:25

Have you sat down and worked out how many days/hours you work a year compared to him? Given his shorter hours and longer hours I suspect there won't be much in it.

I'd also be looking to outsource cleaning, ironing, gardening etc which will obviously have a cost (as you won't be at home to be able to do those things and presumably don't want to spend all weekend doing them). Who does those things now? Which tasks is he willing to pick up if you increased your hours further?

Could you agree to review it when your youngest has completed their reception year? Could you compromise and do a half day from home if your work allows? Both DH and I work one short day per week so we can do the school run and be at home after school on those days.

Howaboutnope · 24/04/2022 11:26

He cant be that money orietated if he works in a school - if hes that bothered about money tell him to change jobs to something more lucrative. Maybe suggest you'll get a job in a school working full time so you get all the holidays off too - see what

Howaboutnope · 24/04/2022 11:27

...he says to that. Pressed send to soon!

reluctantbrit · 24/04/2022 11:27

You may need to remember him that all childcare emergencies do come out of your annual leave, as a teacher I assume it's a lot more difficult to stay at home if a child is ill.

How much does he do in the afternoon on admin, chores, non-fun related stuff? Does he expect you to pull your full weight despite longer days?

I only work 4 days, earn a lot less than DH and DD is in Y10. I actually found that a child in school is a lot more demanding than a child in nursery. He is happy that I take care of all admin life and do the majority of chores. On the other hand, his work is a lot more flexible so he takes care of emergeny appointments.

ancientgran · 24/04/2022 11:28

If you want more time with the children wouldn't you be better doing 30 hrs over 5 days? Most of the day you have off you will be alone as the children will be at school.

ShammyJammy · 24/04/2022 11:29

I work 30 hours a week and on my 'day off' I get the shopping, change bed sheets, clean the house.

During the rest of the week I do the washing and do the mini cleans, cook and generally sort shit out. Thankfully my dh can see that my day off isn't really a day off, just a different work day I'm not paid for.

I worked FT until DC were 3 and 7 and I don't think I'll do 5 days ever again.

MichelleScarn · 24/04/2022 11:31

So all those saying the op dh should get a summer hols job, where will they find childcare as that'll be a cost to what they usually save with dp being off when kids are off!

monicagellerbing · 24/04/2022 11:34

He's a money grabbing twat. 5k a month is plenty ffs

PaddlingLikeADuck · 24/04/2022 11:35

If you want more time with the children wouldn't you be better doing 30 hrs over 5 days? Most of the day you have off you will be alone as the children will be at school.

Do to the nature of the job I need to it would be completely impractical to only be in work for 6 hours a day. I wouldn’t be able to meet the requirements of my job. And even if I did do reduced hours each day, I would need to do shifts that meant I was still at work until 6pm (due to the nature of my job) so it wouldn’t change the issue about me not seeing the children in the evenings.

OP posts:
SparkyBlue · 24/04/2022 11:36

30 hours is more or less full time and that one day a week is invaluable if like you said you have appointments for the children during the week like doctors dentists etc as I assume as he works in a school he can't get away as easily for that type of thing. I'd find his pettiness very unattractive to be honest. Marriage and parenting is a partnership and I would hate for my contribution to our household to be only valued by my financial contributions.

Weatherwithme · 24/04/2022 11:37

I’m guessing the kids go to after school club. Most children don’t like doing that everyday and if you can afford it then they will appreciate being collected my mum once a week. It also means you get to meet their friends parents and can do play dates once a week. For me this wouldn’t be about how much time each parent had but about what’s best for the kids. There’s a whole social scene you miss out on as working parent if your child is in childcare everyday. I’ve done stints as FT working and SAHP and a mix and the children absolutely preferred to be collected by a parent and the options that opens up to do social stuff after school.

Shanksponyorbust · 24/04/2022 11:37

Stick with your 30 hours, if he wants more money he can earn that in his 13 weeks off. You’re comfortably well off and that time between drop offs and pick ups goes quick. You’ll likely be doing chores that would otherwise have to be done after you come in at 6.30 when you’re tired.

This way you get some time with kids, some time to do chores, have time for appointments and will not resent your DHs extra holiday time.

Crikeyalmighty · 24/04/2022 11:37

Given you probably do way more housework and family admin , plus 30 hours paid (going up from 25) - you are working full time OP. Just a small amount of it isn't paid-- I would tell him if you got a cleaner and ironer in for 4 hours a week , you really will not end up better off . He is being materialistic, greedy and unrealistic when it's not 100% necessary. I bet he doesn't fancy taking on the cleaning and ironing and cooking

dumdumduuuummmmm · 24/04/2022 11:37

MalbecandToast · 24/04/2022 10:53

Sorry but I'm with your husband on this, with children that age I would expect you to be full time too really. Weekends are there for quality time with the children.

Perhaps he should use his long school-term breaks to earn a little more then. Or maybe if money is a big deal to him, get a job that pays better. Or get a little gig in the evening. 4pm is very early to get home. Or maybe stop being a prick and allow the OP to have sone say in her life.

BaronessBomburst · 24/04/2022 11:38

I have one DC and work 4 days. That extra free morning is vital in keeping on top of housework, admin, appointments, and the flexibility to swap if DC is sick or has a day off school.
There is no way I'd give it up and make my life more difficult.
How much does your DH do around the house? He could be in for a massive shock if you were to work FT.

Quartz2208 · 24/04/2022 11:39

I would say that an extra 5 hours is going to make that much difference money wise (tax implications) but has a huge one in terms of being able to do things

What happens is one is sick?

Sswhinesthebest · 24/04/2022 11:40

MalbecandToast · 24/04/2022 10:53

Sorry but I'm with your husband on this, with children that age I would expect you to be full time too really. Weekends are there for quality time with the children.

But she’ll be cleaning and doing chores then. She can do the majority of this on her day off to free up the weekend!

I’m with you op!

Add up the hours he does over the year and compare it to his! Or ask him to get an evening job! “Just think of all the extra money”

dondon23 · 24/04/2022 11:40

^this^
Plus tell him you'll work f/t if you can get a cleaner once a week 😀

ancientgran · 24/04/2022 11:40

PaddlingLikeADuck · 24/04/2022 11:35

If you want more time with the children wouldn't you be better doing 30 hrs over 5 days? Most of the day you have off you will be alone as the children will be at school.

Do to the nature of the job I need to it would be completely impractical to only be in work for 6 hours a day. I wouldn’t be able to meet the requirements of my job. And even if I did do reduced hours each day, I would need to do shifts that meant I was still at work until 6pm (due to the nature of my job) so it wouldn’t change the issue about me not seeing the children in the evenings.

That's a shame, when mine were about the age of yours I had a very flexible job and I started work at 8 instead of 9 and had half an hour for lunch so finished at 3.30 instead of 5. It worked well as a friend with children at the same school dropped my kids at my mums and she had them for half an hour till I arrived.

I was lucky as it suited my job, 3 of us doing the same job and boss loved that one of us was always in early in case something urgent happened first thing.

sst1234 · 24/04/2022 11:41

What each parent earns matters. Since you earn less than him, going full time and having a joint pot to outsource chores and would be the fairest way here. If he’s working full time to earn the max that he can in that role, and feels that OP should do the same, then that’s reasonable. As long as the housework and childcare is equally split or if outsourced then each parent should contribute to that pro rata.
MN seems to have double standards when it comes to stuff like this. If this was a man posting, then the replies would be different. Then OP would be accused of having her cake and eating it - working less, earning less and getting to enjoy the same if not a better lifestyle than the partner.

Iwonder08 · 24/04/2022 11:41

I believe in any family set up with children both partners need to be on the same page. I think your situation needs further discussion. Frankly speaking I wouldn't be to impressed if my other half just decided from now on he will be working part time without me agreeing to it. Just because he thinks it is better for him. It is entirely possible you will be able to justify this set up given various things that need to be done like running errands, cooking etc, but you need to have your husband on board