This government and their direction of travel, frightens me.

[Kendodd]

Teressa May (last government, but same party) with her 'go home immigrants' vans and hostle environment.
Immigration and Borders act.
Transportation to Rwanda.
Bringing laws in trying to limit our right to protest.
Lying to the queen to prorogue parliament.
Lying in the house of commons.
Trying to change the law to get one of your MPs off.
Pretty much ripping up the ministerial code.
Windrush.
Admitting that they're just going to break international law.

I bet they will come after the human rights act and try to get us out of ECHR.

Worse, I think a great many of the public love the fact they've done all the above and would cheer loudly at the ripping up of the human rights act and ECHR membership (wtaf?)

How did we get to this?

@BitOutOfPractice

I hate this "ah at least Boris knows what a woman is". Maybe he does or he doesn't. Even if he does he doesn't care about women and their rights.

The only thing BJ knows about a woman is where to stick his xxxx.

He certainly doesn't know anything about contraception.

@lonelyapple

Some of them are now going to get themselves flown to Rwanda at our expense, costing us £30,000 or more each. What have they done to deserve this largesse?

They are already costing that much each yearly when you factor in accommodation, paying for their energy use (electricity, gas and water), food, free medical treatment, school places, free mobile phones and spending money etc. They get more (when you consider the costs above) than pensioners get, most of whom have paid taxes and NI all their lives.

Unless they become high rate taxpayers for many years they will be a burden to the taxpayer.

Maybe we should just put refugees into large camps like they do in other countries and let them take care of themselves - give them wood to make fires, basic food supplies and leave them to it?

How do you think refugees should be treated when they come here to find sanctuary?

@HRTQueen

Those who talk about their children will probably have to move abroad where do you hope they may go ?

I don’t like this government we absolutely need to improve standards of living and we shall be going through a difficult time )I think this shall be global) but the countries where life is better for the average working person are small in number and narrowed down further if you are not note white

Singapore and a few ME countries ? Standard of living is very good

Canada/Australia have a points system (which many view as sensible) cost of housing/living is too a huge issue

Germany, Sweden or Finland ?

Are you saying that Singapore and ME countries have a good standard of living for migrants?

@lonelyapple

Some of them are now going to get themselves flown to Rwanda at our expense, costing us £30,000 or more each. What have they done to deserve this largesse?

They are already costing that much each yearly when you factor in accommodation, paying for their energy use (electricity, gas and water), food, free medical treatment, school places, free mobile phones and spending money etc. They get more (when you consider the costs above) than pensioners get, most of whom have paid taxes and NI all their lives.

Unless they become high rate taxpayers for many years they will be a burden to the taxpayer.

Maybe we could allow them to work, and then they would not be such a burden?

Yes, this ignorantly moronic government will be gunning for workers' rights next - I have no doubt they believe that the way to 'improve productivity' is to remove rights because 'people are taking too much holiday and sick time'. Which is bollocks as a) productivity isn't about how many hours people put in; b) productivity only looks low because the metrics for it are built around an economy built on 'making widgets' (which we have not been for some time)and not a knowledge/digital economy (which we are now), so fails to reflect that; and c) you don't improve productivity by making workers' lives more shit, you do the opposite.

@BitOutOfPractice

I hate this "ah at least Boris knows what a woman is". Maybe he does or he doesn't. Even if he does he doesn't care about women and their rights.

I am pretty sure Boris does care about when women are right. Almost always they are right when he agrees with them. When they disagree with him they are wrong and must become an ex.

Please God they get rid of the Human Rights act. I was studying law at Oxford when it was enacted and every law tutor I knew thought it was an absolute disaster waiting to happen, which it exactly what it has turned out to be.

jgw1 professionals coming from the UK yes they do

@Fr0thandBubble

Please God they get rid of the Human Rights act. I was studying law at Oxford when it was enacted and every law tutor I knew thought it was an absolute disaster waiting to happen, which it exactly what it has turned out to be.

That’s quite a statement to leave hanging ambiguously in the air. Care to elaborate?

@HRTQueen

jgw1 professionals coming from the UK yes they do

@HRTQueen and how do those countries treat migrants who are not rich and white?

Polls over the weekend show the tories have gone down while Labour has gone up, so as far as winning votes go it’s been yet another disaster for them. They can’t even do cruelty competently.

@SleeplessInEngland

Polls over the weekend show the tories have gone down while Labour has gone up, so as far as winning votes go it’s been yet another disaster for them. They can’t even do cruelty competently.

They are just the wrong type of polls. Wait for the one that shows how much people appreciate Boris for being able to identify women.

We know the answer jgw1 for migrant workers

But I do know a few Asian and black families living in both MS and Singapore who are living a very high standard of life. They are professionals who have come from the UK

ME (not MS)

@SleeplessInEngland

Polls over the weekend show the tories have gone down while Labour has gone up, so as far as winning votes go it’s been yet another disaster for them. They can’t even do cruelty competently.

Well, if Labour can't get a few points out of this then the outlook would have been really bleak for them.

There seems to be a pattern where Labour only seem to get ahead off the back of Tory mistakes, not through anything constructive that they have said or done. That of course is fine but lets see what they can offer up to the average Joe to capitalise on this lead.

I won't be holding my breath.

Honestly some people on this thread are grim as fuck.

What’s worse is you know the effing Tories will be in again because a bunch of racists and terfs reckon non-brits and transfolk are threatening their crappy existence, which is getting shittier for us all by the minute without them even realising until its too late.

I despair.

*Well, if Labour can't get a few points out of this then the outlook would have been really bleak for them.

There seems to be a pattern where Labour only seem to get ahead off the back of Tory mistakes, not through anything constructive that they have said or done. That of course is fine but lets see what they can offer up to the average Joe to capitalise on this lead.

I won't be holding my breath.*

Are you aware which party proposed in parliament in January to remove VAT on fuel as part of their measures to tackle the cost of living crisis, and which party voted against it?

“ Well, if Labour can't get a few points out of this then the outlook would have been really bleak for them.”

On the contrary, many political commentators despaired that this would be a popular policy. It benefitting Labour was far from a given.

Boris can totally identify women - either those he wants to fuck or those he wants to fuck over. Glad @jgw1 takes such a balanced view and isn’t pinning their hopes on one subject (not calling it issue because there’s only a minority bigoted in this way.

Loving the virtual signallers! Like the Church of England, let’s spend that magic money tree - of other peoples money tho’ !!!! Ye old taxpayer. The whole world and his wife can rock up here and expect to be financially and socially supported for the rest of their lives. Ludicrous idiocy. Living in an ivory tower. Deluded.

If you feel so strongly about it OP, dip your hands in your pocket. Will cost you £5 MILLION per day (so far) for the illegal migrants. Perhaps you are expecting everyone else to pay though?!!!!! Hmmm Thought so. Talk is cheap.

@LightSnowLight

Loving the virtual signallers! Like the Church of England, let’s spend that magic money tree - of other peoples money tho’ !!!! Ye old taxpayer. The whole world and his wife can rock up here and expect to be financially and socially supported for the rest of their lives. Ludicrous idiocy. Living in an ivory tower. Deluded.

If you feel so strongly about it OP, dip your hands in your pocket. Will cost you £5 MILLION per day (so far) for the illegal migrants. Perhaps you are expecting everyone else to pay though?!!!!! Hmmm Thought so. Talk is cheap.

@LightSnowLight is £5 million per day more or less than was spaffed on mates of the Tory party in the past 2 years from taxpayers money?

It didn't seem to be an issue when the rich needed to get richer...

These simpering virtue signallers have no idea about reality and the real costs of life. Someone else is always paying. Notice CofE wasn’t suggesting dipping into its coffers. The fall of it.

We may have got to this by now having 18m more people in the UK than when I was born (including 1m illegal immigrants) and because the woke left Labour party hardly even seem to want to recognise "women" exist.

@Xenia

We may have got to this by now having 18m more people in the UK than when I was born (including 1m illegal immigrants) and because the woke left Labour party hardly even seem to want to recognise "women" exist.

@Xenia Do you know at what point we are supposed to move on from "but Boris knows what a woman is" to "but Nicola took her mask off"?

I mean bare-faced gall of C of E!