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Have your tipping habits changed with the rising cost of living?

168 replies

SwanBuster · 17/04/2022 19:15

Have you found yourself having to think more carefully about tipping - cabs, hairdressers, deliveroo etc now that the cost of things are going up?

I do a little ‘roo-ing’ on the side, and I’ve found that despite some of the orders I’ve been doing being insanely ridiculous - huge shops, long distances by bicycle, working out to way less than minimum wage, I’ve been getting very, very few tips.

I’ve always personally tipped when on the other side of the transaction - and still would - but times are getting tighter and wondering if this is one of the first things to go?

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PlasticineMeg · 18/04/2022 08:23

I suppose you all want evidence of that now.

No, and no one wanted evidence of your Tesla either 🤣

It just feels like a totally pointless waste of time. Join a running group FFS

Patchbatch · 18/04/2022 08:25

@SwanBuster

And that for the people who really do the job, yeah - tips would make a massive difference.
Perhaps the delivery companies could pay a fair wage to them, oh and people doing it as a hobby stop taking clogging up their routes!
SwanBuster · 18/04/2022 08:25

if my post makes some of you think about the reality for those food delivery couriers, spread the word and tip them then as far as I can see my efforts have had a positive effect.

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PlasticineMeg · 18/04/2022 08:26

If you earn £125k it will take you about 2 days to earn £1,000, the same amount you earn per year doing Deliveroo. You can’t be surprised as to why people are baffled that you bother doing this and rejoice over a £2 tip. You can easily afford a gym. It’s like one of this e’tight fisted people’ threads: “I know someone who earns £125k but doesnt want to pay for a gym so spends their spare time delivering takeaways by bicycle, she complains when she doesn’t get a £1 tip” Grin

rookiemere · 18/04/2022 08:27

Look there are plenty of jobs available at the minute. It sounds like the orders that don't take as long to deliver are snapped up quickly, so there is some point to doing them. As a student if I'd had a bike, it sounds like an idea way to supplement money at a time of my choosing rather than say a bar job.

I don't know for some reason I don't take kindly to being lectured about my tipping habits by someone doing it as a side hustle for fun.

PlasticineMeg · 18/04/2022 08:28

@SwanBuster

if my post makes some of you think about the reality for those food delivery couriers, spread the word and tip them then as far as I can see my efforts have had a positive effect.
TBH next time I see a Deliveroo driver I’ll just wonder if it’s someone earning loads of dish but wanting to save on gym fees. I pay a delivery charge on the rare occasion I use Deliveroo, I won’t be tipping, it’s not up to me to make up someone else’s paltry wage
GeneLovesJezebel · 18/04/2022 08:28

I had my eyebrows done recently, it’s £8 so I normally just give £10, but I didn’t this time.
And I won’t be tipping my hairdresser any more either. She gets far more than I do per hour.

Countdownis35 · 18/04/2022 08:28

I don't tip unless I'm on holiday. Service charge racks up if there's a big group anyway.

hattie43 · 18/04/2022 08:29

My tipping hasn't changed ,
Beautician and hairdresser get a fiver each , most restaurants have service included .

We don't have any kind of food deliveries on my road so no experience of tipping here .

Taxis a couple of quid .

GeneLovesJezebel · 18/04/2022 08:30

We recently had a poor meal. We were seated near the kitchen and the noise was awful, the portion was tiny, and service very slow. Yet my DH still tipped them £5 !

SwanBuster · 18/04/2022 08:32

@PlasticineMeg

If you earn £125k it will take you about 2 days to earn £1,000, the same amount you earn per year doing Deliveroo. You can’t be surprised as to why people are baffled that you bother doing this and rejoice over a £2 tip. You can easily afford a gym. It’s like one of this e’tight fisted people’ threads: “I know someone who earns £125k but doesnt want to pay for a gym so spends their spare time delivering takeaways by bicycle, she complains when she doesn’t get a £1 tip” Grin
You are missing the point. I'm not arguing for me, I'm raising awareness on behalf of my colleagues.

And no, it absolutely does not take 2 days to earn £1000!!! Not at my marginal rate. For every G extra I marginally earn doing my PAYE job, the swines are taking 63p in the £.

To net a grand therefore it takes about a weeks work.

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rookiemere · 18/04/2022 08:36

@SwanBuster but you're not really raising awareness.

You pick uneconomic jobs, your colleagues don't. In the UK there is no shortage of casual work at the minute, if someone chooses to do deliveroo rather than a bar job they need to work out the best option for them in terms of convenience of work versus renumeration.

If someone chooses to do less than minimum wage deliveries then that's kind of on them. If I've already paid a delivery charge, I assume that's adequate to repay the courier for their time, in the same way I don't tip a Hermes driver.

rookiemere · 18/04/2022 08:38

I use my pound coins to put in collection boxes for Ukrainian refugees, or to buy lottery tickets.

grotsnags · 18/04/2022 08:43

The £1000 is actually tax free - because you can claim the trading allowance.

but still & yes I know the tax is painful but that's what happens if you earn well on PAYE

grotsnags · 18/04/2022 08:47

I've watched youtube vids by deliveroo drivers & you can see that it's a tough gig. Now I will be wondering if all the deliveroo drivers are secretly high earners though which I would never have imagined.

Your not the CEO of deliveroo doing one of those back to floor things? 😆

grotsnags · 18/04/2022 08:49

For every G extra I marginally earn doing my PAYE job, the swines are taking 63p in the £.

How much tax do you think you should pay?

Ohmygoshyoudontsay · 18/04/2022 08:51

I've never had a deliveroo. It sounds like they go to a lot more effort than service staff in restaurants and probably deserve a tip.

rookiemere · 18/04/2022 08:57

@Ohmygoshyoudontsay would you tip in a restaurant if service charge was already included?

Glamora · 18/04/2022 08:57

@SwanBuster

The only reason I created the thread was because it was fascinating to me as someone with first hand experience of ping the job, how inefficient it can be and how when I got a £2 tip on Saturday, it literally made my day 😊
You earn x amount, and have a tesla and deliver food for the exercise and £2 made your day

Sure it did

Honestopinion23 · 18/04/2022 09:07

If this is true, while you’re playing at finding out how the other half live, OP, there are people who actually need that money who are being deprived of work because of you and your ‘side hustle’. People who actually depend on this stuff rather than whingeing about their terrible tax rate on earnings above 120k.

User7493268965 · 18/04/2022 09:09

How fascinating, someone with a high earning job and a lot of time on their hands gets a job at Deliveroo.

User7493268965 · 18/04/2022 09:11

Obviously this is just a stealth boasty thread, though in the OPs case it isn't even that stealthy, and nothing to do with tips

SwanBuster · 18/04/2022 09:23

None of you will ever understand, probably because you haven't been to an Ayahuasca retreat.

I did, and no understand the deeper connections one makes with the universe when you experience the trials and tribulations of others first hand.

As far as how much tax I should pay goes - not 63%.

As far as £2 making my day - yes it did. I immediately spent it on a £1.99 big Mac and fries, using the perpetual 'Mcfoodforthoughts' trick, which was a very satisfying treat after some cycling.

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SwanBuster · 18/04/2022 09:27

@Honestopinion23

If this is true, while you’re playing at finding out how the other half live, OP, there are people who actually need that money who are being deprived of work because of you and your ‘side hustle’. People who actually depend on this stuff rather than whingeing about their terrible tax rate on earnings above 120k.
First you cast aspersions that i was making the up, which I immediately backed up. Now you don't read the rest of my posts, where I state I have first hand knowledge that I'm not denying anyone anything.

I talk to other riders and drivers. I know what jobs they pick. There is absolutely no way they'd take the tasks I do. Riding a gravel road to a village where you won't get pinged for another task until you ride 4 miles back? Of course they refuse those.

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Honestopinion23 · 18/04/2022 09:31

This is so offensive, especially the bit about the retreat and having experience of the trials and tribulations of others. All I will say is that you should be ashamed of yourself talking like that. Poverty is not a joke or an experience or a cosplay. I appreciate that you’re probably just doing this to wind people up but for many people this is the reality, day in day out. And no, some rich fuck going on a bike ride can never ever know what that is like.