To be totally fed up with dogs?

[dogtroubl]

When we moved in, neighbours had an old dog that used to wander into our garden and leave poo everywhere. Couldn’t use garden with young kids due to mess and large dog.

Complained (politely), after quite a bit of unpleasantness fence finally fixed, dog died and they got 2 new dogs that were loud but contained.

Neighbours moved, new neighbours also have 2 dogs and fence is in a bad state of repair again due to the constant barking, snarling and scratching that happens every time we go outside. I always make sure I’m out there with the kids in case it breaks because they don’t sound friendly at all.

Their neighbours also have 2 dogs so the 2 sets are always setting each other off barking.

Family members also have dogs. One very old who soils everywhere and one very large, young dog who is very playful and jumps up and licks and dribbles all over you.

My daughter is terrified (the dog is easily as tall as her) and the family member always says dog will be shut away when we go over, but dog is always let or gets out soon after. I can tell my daughter’s fear of this dog irritates the family member but she’s genuinely scared after an incident when she was a toddler, plus this dog is like a horse to her and could do serious damage even with just a nip.

We’ve been to a few kids’ playgrounds over the holidays, dogs off lead and running all over the place at each one. Chasing kids in a “playful” way that scares them.

Dog poo all over footpaths and verges everywhere. Kids tread in it, I tread in it, buggy goes in it because I don’t see it until it’s too late.

I know it’s bad owners not the dogs’ fault etc but AIBU to just be totally fed up with dogs?

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@saveforthat

Yes YABU because (as you said) it's the owners fault. Some children are badly behaved all the time with no consequences but I am not totally fed up with children, just some parents.

Not many kids shit on the pavement or get into people's gardens and cause damage and danger to the residents.

Poo bags left dangling or thrown in undergrowth is another bad thing.
Yes this is SO gross and has definitely become more common recently. I don't understand the logic - if you have a poo bag, take it home. If you really REALLY can't take it home (no idea what the reason could be), then just kick it into the bushes without the bag as at least it will biodegrade. What do they think will happen to a bag hanging from a tree branch?

My neighbour has a pack of dogs and they are always getting loose, mainly because he doesn't bother to walk them but just lets them loose in his own field. Which would be fine if it was fenced! My entire property is fenced with impenatrable sheep netting to stop his dog getting in after I woke up to a dead rabbit deposited by it on my doorstep and several of its toys, I've reported him to the police (he hates me now but I don't care) and his dog gets loose on the main road instead! The police have warned him but he just doesn't care.

I love my dog so much. My ex abused me and her, and almost 9 years ago we escaped him together. She’s been with me through the hardest times in my life. She’s incredibly well-behaved, she doesn’t bark, she walks to heel, leaves everybody else alone, and she comes when called. She is completely harmless and a nuisance to nobody. We are so well-bonded and I think after everything we’ve been through we have a right to go on a walk, minding our own business, without judgemental people who through virtue of being dogless think they own the park. If you can’t understand why dogs mean so much to people then that’s sad but at least try to show a bit of empathy.

@DockOTheBay

Poo bags left dangling or thrown in undergrowth is another bad thing. Yes this is SO gross and has definitely become more common recently. I don't understand the logic - if you have a poo bag, take it home. If you really REALLY can't take it home (no idea what the reason could be), then just kick it into the bushes without the bag as at least it will biodegrade. What do they think will happen to a bag hanging from a tree branch?

Around here there are signs up saying if you’re not going to bin it then don’t bag it. It’s so weird that people do that. People who leave it meaning to pick it up later and forget are just as bad, just bun it immediately.

I don't mind them, just hate them off the lead and mostly in restaurants or food places. Utterly disgusting. Why is this even allowed in the first place. Went to a really nice restaurant recently and there was a big, restless dog there. It peed there as well. So disgusting. How arrogant of the owners to think they should bring pets into eating places.

@tigger2022

Your dog sounds beautiful. I for one think dogs are entitled to be in parks, but I do stand by what I have been saying throughout and that is they should be on leads whilst walking on busy pedestrian paths. There is usually adequate space for them to play and run away from paths and playgrounds.

Surely it’s up to the proprietor? If it’s a pet friendly restaurant I bring my dog along, for sure. If you don’t like it you can find a restaurant where dogs aren’t allowed. There are plenty of them.

Yeh I hate dogs in restaurants/cafes. There is just no need🤢 parks are ruined by them too, bounding around off the leash, barking, shitting everywhere, poking around when your trying to eat!the list goes on.......grim!!!

Tigger this thread isn't about you and decent owners. Dogs are great, with the right owners. So many people are too selfish to have dogs and cba to pick up after them, can't or won't train them and get rid when they're bored. Sad for all concerned. Hope you get it sorted OP but there are many people in similar position

So you just hate dogs generally? Sorry but we’re not all going to accommodate that.

I'm fed up of the number of dogs, the number of poorly trained dogs and the selfish attitudes of many owners.
I walked into a cafe for lunch this week - and walked out again as there were 5 dogs in there, two yapping away. The cafe owner came out and offered a table - my friends and I declined and pointed out why. The cafe owner was upset - she said more and more people were objecting.

@tigger2022

I love my dog so much. My ex abused me and her, and almost 9 years ago we escaped him together. She’s been with me through the hardest times in my life. She’s incredibly well-behaved, she doesn’t bark, she walks to heel, leaves everybody else alone, and she comes when called. She is completely harmless and a nuisance to nobody. We are so well-bonded and I think after everything we’ve been through we have a right to go on a walk, minding our own business, without judgemental people who through virtue of being dogless think they own the park. If you can’t understand why dogs mean so much to people then that’s sad but at least try to show a bit of empathy.

Thats fantastic but this thread isn't about owners like yourself, no one is posting i hate dogs even if they are well behaved and far away from me!

Its about a large number of owners who do not give a 4X about anyone but themselves and their dogs, e.g. the PP who doesn't care about any other diners so long as their yappy dog gets to annoy everyone else ay the cafe.

But if we follow your logic I shouldn’t have my off lead dog anywhere in public at all because he might encounter your daughter or someone with a similar aversion. And that’s just not a reasonable ask IMO.

Yes, keep your dog on a lead where there are people. It’s not difficult and plenty manage it fine. Only those who think they are too entitled and are far more important than anyone else refuse to do it.

A PP mentioned that they would support dogs having to be licensed. I live in NI and dogs here must be licensed (£12 pa) and microchips. It still doesn't stop irresponsible owners from leaving piles of biohazardous material in their dogs wake

@Questiontellme

Urghhhhh *@TeaKlaxon* you and people like you are the problem, how disgustingly entitled you are.

Why on earth does a dog need to be in a bloody playground or basketball court?? Can't children just enjoy a safe space without being bothered by flaming dogs. I dont give a toss whether they're on a lead so many children are terrified of them because of bad experiences at the hands of entiteld dog owners like you.

Do you know how disturbing it sounds that you think children shouldn't be able to safely enjoy spaces specifically designed for them. Please tell me why with all the open spaces in this country you and your dog need to be in a playground or on a tennis court?? Why?

People who are parents and dog owners should be able to combine taking their dog for a walk in the park with taking their kids to the playground.

Parents have enough competing things to do not to allow them kill two birds with one stone by allowing them to take their dog on a lead into a playground.

Pretty simple really.

I absolutely LOVE dogs, if I had a 100 of them it wouldn’t be enough🤣 sadly I only have 1 - all the dogs/owners by me seem responsible & I’ve never seen any just roaming about or barking!

Why don’t you refuse to go to the houses with dogs & put your own fence up? That’s what I would do if I didn’t like them.

@BoredZelda

But if we follow your logic I shouldn’t have my off lead dog anywhere in public at all because he might encounter your daughter or someone with a similar aversion. And that’s just not a reasonable ask IMO.

Yes, keep your dog on a lead where there are people. It’s not difficult and plenty manage it fine. Only those who think they are too entitled and are far more important than anyone else refuse to do it.

My dog loves to run, she's a high energy breed, this is not possible.

@Questiontellme…how about encouraging your children to be animal lovers and stop making them worried when dogs are in their vicinity?
My dog is petrified of children but I have encouraged her to accept them and allow the children to touch her …it works both ways !!

@boredzelda no, it’s not difficult but it’s not always necessary. You trying to decide when that is on my behalf is surely you being entitled?

When you walk on a public footpath through a field with livestock, do you ask the farmer to put them all on a lead? No, because even though it’s a public footpath that’s not your decision to make.

Whenever I see a hazard or I can see someone uncomfortable I put my dog on a lead as a precaution and out of courtesy, but I’ll be the judge of that thanks.

@outdooryone

I'm fed up of the number of dogs, the number of poorly trained dogs and the selfish attitudes of many owners. I walked into a cafe for lunch this week - and walked out again as there were 5 dogs in there, two yapping away. The cafe owner came out and offered a table - my friends and I declined and pointed out why. The cafe owner was upset - she said more and more people were objecting.

No one forced her to allow dogs in her cafe, so she can stop that, if she wants.

No such thing as a bad dog - just a useless owner!
Far too many people are getting dogs and being ‘too busy’ to train and socialise them properly. When my mum got her dog (after retiring, to be sure she would have the time to deal with the demands of a puppy, she had a long list of situations he had to be exposed to. He is now a gentle, cheeky but well behaved two year old.
Too many get a dog and leave it alone all day and go to work, leading to a bored, cooped up dog that is then fractious when it finally gets let out, or take on rescues with serious behaviour issues without any knowledge of how to deal with their needs. A dog isn’t a goldfish - they take time and patience and any bad behavior has to be nipped in the bud immediately.

My dogs are on leads when out, full stop. One simple reason, lousy recall. Only one will crap on a lead and it is always picked up and binned. They have no interest in other people and very little in other dogs. Luckily they have a large garden to run about and play in. The single biggest problem I have when out with them is children running up to them and trying to hug them, usually followed by idiot parents going on about 'fluffy teddy dogs'*. It's a bloody nightmare. My dogs are very tolerant but they really don't want to be jumped on by small children or grabbed by deliquent adults, all of whom seem to think they are dog whisperers! The dogs back off, turtle their heads into their necks and wait patiently for the annoying people to go away. Very rarely we meet sensible people who ask politely if they may touch them. I explain the best way to do it, the dogs are relaxed and all is well. I love those people! The dogs particularly like well behaved small children and always respond positively.
*They are fluffy but they are also 30-40kg of solid muscle.

I got scolded recently for having a piece of chocolate cake, boxed, in the underseat basket of the pushchair. And informed that chocolate is actually poisonous to dogs.

I know that about chocolate, but wouldn’t have anticipated an issue, as I assume dogs will be sufficiently well trained that they don’t rummage for food in other people’s stuff, or at least stopped from doing it quick smart.

Aside from being a fucking nuisance to everyone else, poorly trained dogs are a risk to themselves.

And I’m sick of feeling obliged to pretend I don’t mind the mud‘n’shit paw marks on my clothes when the bloody things jump up.