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To be totally fed up with dogs?

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dogtroubl · 14/04/2022 13:50

When we moved in, neighbours had an old dog that used to wander into our garden and leave poo everywhere. Couldn’t use garden with young kids due to mess and large dog.

Complained (politely), after quite a bit of unpleasantness fence finally fixed, dog died and they got 2 new dogs that were loud but contained.

Neighbours moved, new neighbours also have 2 dogs and fence is in a bad state of repair again due to the constant barking, snarling and scratching that happens every time we go outside. I always make sure I’m out there with the kids in case it breaks because they don’t sound friendly at all.

Their neighbours also have 2 dogs so the 2 sets are always setting each other off barking.

Family members also have dogs. One very old who soils everywhere and one very large, young dog who is very playful and jumps up and licks and dribbles all over you.

My daughter is terrified (the dog is easily as tall as her) and the family member always says dog will be shut away when we go over, but dog is always let or gets out soon after. I can tell my daughter’s fear of this dog irritates the family member but she’s genuinely scared after an incident when she was a toddler, plus this dog is like a horse to her and could do serious damage even with just a nip.

We’ve been to a few kids’ playgrounds over the holidays, dogs off lead and running all over the place at each one. Chasing kids in a “playful” way that scares them.

Dog poo all over footpaths and verges everywhere. Kids tread in it, I tread in it, buggy goes in it because I don’t see it until it’s too late.

I know it’s bad owners not the dogs’ fault etc but AIBU to just be totally fed up with dogs?

OP posts:

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:18

@Alexandra2001

It's just that some miserable sods think they shouldn't be able to access that space

Other people have a right to be able to enjoy these spaces without a dog charging about & once fido is running about, he or she can go anywhere, ignoring any call......
"oh look another dog on a lead with a family having a picnic! i'll charge over and run over their food, maybe help myself to some - darn, i need a shit, i'll have one whilst i'm there too and that annoying kid? i'll bark at him, that'll teach im"

I completely get some folk don't like dogs and i respect that by keep my dog on a lead around people.

Have you thought that if the only way you can stop your dog behaving like that is having them on a lead is to train them better?

If you need to have your dog on a lead because otherwise they will be anti-social, then that's fine.

I don't. And in five years, he's never done anything like you suggest. So perhaps you should stop projecting your own failure to train your dog on other owners who have managed to train ours.

Alexandra2001 · 14/04/2022 17:18

You see it on here, where a small, well behaved dog who has never in five years bothered anyone, or run up to anyone, or jumped on anyone, walking off lead in a park where he is allowed to do so is still considered a problem. There's no reasoning with someone like that

err no, don't twist our debate... you and i were talking about large dogs running around the park a long way from their owners...... not a small dog of lead, walking along side you, which is totally fine.

tigger2022 · 14/04/2022 17:18

It feels like there are some people on this thread arguing that dogs just shouldn't exist...

littlelowerdown · 14/04/2022 17:19

@Alexandra2001

There's always people whinging!

TBF these are usually dog owners unable to understand not everyone loves their dog like they do.....

This!

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:19

@Alexandra2001

Umm no.

I said that I would have my dog off lead on the paths in my park if I wish. That was considered an example of entitlement and something that was totally unacceptable.

That is a totally unreasonable view.

Alexandra2001 · 14/04/2022 17:21

Have you thought that if the only way you can stop your dog behaving like that is having them on a lead is to train them better?

She walks close to me, slack lead or no lead BUT dogs are always unpredictable, esp an 18month old one, so i chose to give her loads of exercise in a private area but walk her on a lead in public.

HELLITHURT · 14/04/2022 17:21

@vodkaredbullgirl

So far today posts about cats, dogs and kids what next?

Have we had an I hate cyclists one yet?

Viviennemary · 14/04/2022 17:22

I think they should make whole roads dog free zones. They are a menace.

100problems · 14/04/2022 17:23

@Alexandra2001 I think that's bang on. Even the most placid dog can have a mental moment. You can't predict it, but you can certainly mitigate against it.

JanisMoplin · 14/04/2022 17:24

@Viviennemary

I think they should make whole roads dog free zones. They are a menace.

Come on!

I don't know why I am arguing so fervently for dogs when I do not even have one. I am possibly hankering after one.

Mrsmch123 · 14/04/2022 17:24

Yanbu! Just because some people like dogs doesn't mean we all need to like them! I hate that they shit everywhere and bark🙄 really gets on my nerves!

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:25

[quote 100problems]@Alexandra2001 I think that's bang on. Even the most placid dog can have a mental moment. You can't predict it, but you can certainly mitigate against it.[/quote]
Yes. By training them well, and responding if they behave inappropriately.

A well trained dog will behave inappropriately very, very rarely. Certainly rarely enough that they should not be prevented from getting proper exercise unless their owner has access to their own private land!

Tulipblacksmith · 14/04/2022 17:25

You have to laugh though at people on here

“My dogs off a lead even on the path but it won’t bother you, it will ignore you”

Yeah right. These are the same owners who loudly proclaim “don’t worry my dogs fine it wont hurt you, no problem here”.

The dog delusion is real people.

Tulipblacksmith · 14/04/2022 17:27

@TeaKlaxon

If their owner can’t provide them with adequate space in the first place they are irresponsible for ever getting the dog. Like I said dog ownership is not a god given right.

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:28

@Alexandra2001

Have you thought that if the only way you can stop your dog behaving like that is having them on a lead is to train them better?

She walks close to me, slack lead or no lead BUT dogs are always unpredictable, esp an 18month old one, so i chose to give her loads of exercise in a private area but walk her on a lead in public.

And mine walks next to me unless:

(a) I stop, in which case he ambles about sniffing;

(b) There are other dogs and I give him the nod to 'go play'; or

In five years, he has never done any of the things you have suggested, so why on earth do you think he should be denied proper exercise and play?

Trixiefirecracker · 14/04/2022 17:28

We live in a beautiful little village in the Lakes, couldn’t be more idyllic except for the dog poo. Everywhere. On the way up to school seems to be a favourite. My son slipped in it for n the last day of school. Lunch bag covered in it too.
There are definitely too many dogs these days, ( I am former dog owner) think lockdown has sadly produced a lot of irresponsible owners. My best mate is a dog trainer, she is never out of work at the moment. Endless unsocialised, nervous dogs that haven’t even been given any very basic training. Not the dogs fault of course. She’s very happy though as she’s raking it in.

Tulipblacksmith · 14/04/2022 17:28

@JanisMoplin

Maybe if you had one you would think differently as the ones who are actually arguing against dogs being on public paths lead free actually are dog owners (responsible ones).

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:30

[quote Tulipblacksmith]@TeaKlaxon

If their owner can’t provide them with adequate space in the first place they are irresponsible for ever getting the dog. Like I said dog ownership is not a god given right.[/quote]
I'm not sure how many times I have to tell you this: I can provide my dog with adequate space.

In the local park.

If you think dog ownership should be restricted to those with massive gardens or those with farms or private land just to satisfy a few whinging dog owners, then I feel really sorry for you.

Not liking dogs is one thing. You do you. Believing that only those with private land should be able to responsibly own a dog is pathetic.

Lovemusic33 · 14/04/2022 17:30

I have put YABU, mainly because I like dogs more than people 😬, I’ve never been hurt by a dog but people on the other hand..

Owners should not let their dogs enter other peoples gardens or snarl through the fence but dogs in parks are fine if under control.

TeaKlaxon · 14/04/2022 17:31

@Tulipblacksmith

You have to laugh though at people on here

“My dogs off a lead even on the path but it won’t bother you, it will ignore you”

Yeah right. These are the same owners who loudly proclaim “don’t worry my dogs fine it wont hurt you, no problem here”.

The dog delusion is real people.

Only problem is that I have five year's experience of knowing my dog. You don't.

So I'm going to go with my own assessment about my dog rather than some dog hater on the internet if that's ok.

Harrysmummy246 · 14/04/2022 17:31

YANBU and I'm a dog owner (who sometimes feels the same about my own, never mind others who don't pick up etc)

JanisMoplin · 14/04/2022 17:31

[quote Tulipblacksmith]@JanisMoplin

Maybe if you had one you would think differently as the ones who are actually arguing against dogs being on public paths lead free actually are dog owners (responsible ones).[/quote]
Maybe. Some of the comments on here seem rather overdramatic.

Quincunx · 14/04/2022 17:32

Totally agree OP, yanbu. If dogs are owned by inconsiderate people, which many are, they cause mayhem. Speaking as a wfh resident of a block of small flats with no gardens where 3 people next to me have massive german shepherds that bark and howl all fucking day as they're left home alone for hours on end then get taken out for 10 minutes to shit all over the car park and bin area. Both the owners and their dog muck make me sick.

Tulipblacksmith · 14/04/2022 17:32

@TeaKlaxon

But your dog can still get adequate exercise away from the playgrounds and the paths so the point you are making is a mute one because you could respect other people whilst ensuring your dog gets enough exercise.

You’re just too entitled to do that and believe that you and your dog own the park because you pay council tax.

Tulipblacksmith · 14/04/2022 17:33

@JanisMoplin

Really? What comments? At first someone mentioned dog shit everywhere being hyperbole but yet plenty of comments seem to suggest otherwise ……

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