Am sick of well off friends moaning about prices

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And i know IABU before i start. Everyone is allowed a moan and a complain. I get that. And we never know peoples circumstances. Except sometimes we do, cos either we are related or been friends for years.
We've always lived on a low income and had to be frugal. The new cost of living increases just mean we tighten even further. I have friends who have never had to tighten and in all honesty they still don't. But they are complaining to me how this has gone up and thats gone up and carrying on like its the end of the world for them, when lots of us have lived like this for years. Its the first time theyve ever had to think about money and its like TERRIBLE for them. There just seems no self awareness some of us have been doing this for years. And its pissing me off. But I know IABU so I'm moaning here and biting my tongue.

@Tulipblacksmith

I think this photo sums it up. I say this as “old poor” .

bahahaha brilliant

If you’re BU then so am I. In my experience people with the most money (but this is just in my life) complain the most and the loudest. It’s infuriating especially at the moment. Then they give me advice on money saving tips. So condescending. As if I don’t already spend every day just naturally living frugally. It’s a way of life and I’ve never once complained.

A big tragedy for dm is not being able to buy food in M&S and for sil it’s stressing out when she can’t find the best bargain for her 5 bedroom house. They get quite arsey, stressed out and entitled. Meanwhile, I might not have eaten properly that day during a 12 hour shift or I’ve spent a whole morning on a calculator trying to figure out just paying bills.

It really is just an every day survival thing some of us are totally used to.

I am not well off, have to watch every penny but irl none of my friends know my situation or how hard it is for me, especially with the price of everything going up and up. I would feel really uncomfortable talking about money to other people, let alone moaning about it, so really have no sympathy for well off people moaning about cutting back on non-essentials such as holidays, hot tub heating etc. If it’s going to be talked about it should be objectively and with someone who can make a change and help the grim situation so many people are finding themselves in ie government, councils etc.

@Eelicks

It's concerning. We need higher earners to have spare money to spend as that's what our economy is based on. I remember the last recession well and it really wasn't pretty. If something doesn't change I don't see how we can avoid another one. And that affects everyone

Agree

We're very careful with money anyway, but we're not going to go without food as prices go up. We've stayed local over the Easter break due to the ridiculous fuel prices and inability to get it around her due to the protests, so we're not spending money out and about and cutting down on 'extras' from our grocery shopping. Also passing on any take out from the local independents as we can't justify it at the moment. it's a shame.

I see a lot of friends cutting back on the little things as well.

There are as many threads saying people don’t have the right to say anything if they’re not on the poverty line as there are saying people should stop flaunting it if they do have money to spend and either perceived to be tone deaf.

How about we all accept that everyone lives differently and will or will not be affected in different ways? Or are we only allowed to speak up at all if we fit in a certain salary bracket now?

Cost of living affects everyone whether you’re already struggling or struggling for the first time in your life. Newsflash - no one likes it. Let’s get mad at the government not each other.

Yep not well off by any means but have cancelled my gym subscription, won't be getting hair and nails done and cancelling my flower subscription.

It's very sad for these small, but unessential businesses and they're really going to be hit by all of this as we just prioritise essentials

I would have probably liked to go away this bank holiday but it was over £800 for rail fare and 3 nights in edinburgh, or in excess of £500 for a similar weekend break in York. So we are just going for a day trip in canterbury with a friend- would cost us £40 in rail fares for DH and myself. We will do other stuff in London on the other days.

Have basically given up on full meals in restaurants as a regular thing, just getting bites. Full blown meals for special occasions only. Bringing my own lunch to work. I don't complain about this IRL cos I don't think its cutting back compared to a lot of people.

I am a bit hacked off that material costs have gone up so our garden renovation is going to cost about 20% more, but I wouldn’t bloody mention it to anyone who I wasn’t 100% sure was in a similar place financially.

@Tiredalwaystired

There are as many threads saying people don’t have the right to say anything if they’re not on the poverty line as there are saying people should stop flaunting it if they do have money to spend and either perceived to be tone deaf.

How about we all accept that everyone lives differently and will or will not be affected in different ways? Or are we only allowed to speak up at all if we fit in a certain salary bracket now?

Cost of living affects everyone whether you’re already struggling or struggling for the first time in your life. Newsflash - no one likes it. Let’s get mad at the government not each other.

It makes you look stupid to publicly complain that you can't afford a second holiday to the Caribbean though, when others are on their last £50 for the month.

It might be 'poverty' to you, but you're an actual moron if you think that's a genuine problem. That's the difference. Be upset if you want, but to go around telling people? That makes you an asshole.

I think anyone can have a moan if they want.

But the same people that aren’t allowed to moan according to mumsnet also appear not to be able to enjoy themselves either. It’s like only absolute poverty is allowed.

If people want to moan they can moan. If people want to share that they’re enjoying themselves they can do that too. I dont like this direction that only those who consider themselves at the bottom have any right to feel anything at all. It’s all relative.

Yes if you’re DELIBERATELY goading someone you know is struggling that’s an arsehole way to behave. But can we please stop trying to be judge and jury on what people are allowed to do, say and more importantly feel based on perceived ideas on their lives?

And no, I’m not a loaded Tory. I work for the NHS so hardly raking it in myself

If people want to moan they can moan. If people want to share that they’re enjoying themselves they can do that too. I dont like this direction that only those who consider themselves at the bottom have any right to feel anything at all. It’s all relative.

This.

Every single person on this forum has access to the internet. Every single person is able to articulate what they want to say.

No-one here is remotely close to the bottom, but they honestly seem to think that they are entitled to tell others that they are not allowed to speak because 'they have no idea and it is tone deaf etc'. It only serves to bolster them from their own gross hypocrisy.

It is exactly the same mentality as the self proclaimed lockdown police, curtain-twitching away at all those who weren't doing the misery as properly and thoroughly as themselves.

I’m sure there’s someone somewhere in the world saying I wish those mumsnetters would stop moaning, with their NHS, child benefit and education system.

It is insensitive of them. But hopefully once this section of society really start to properly struggle and feel resentful too, it might actually change things.
Sadly that is often the way, use it to start an honest conversation about how everyones life is getter harder and get them to do something rather than just whinge.

By do something I mean not vote again for the criminals who run this shit show.

@Angelswithflirtyfaces

By do something I mean not vote again for the criminals who run this shit show.

A large % of the people who voted Tory in the last election were the ‘working classes’.

@Angelswithflirtyfaces....hopefully??? Is that what you want? For EVERYONE to have everything come crashing down. Surely that would be detrimental to the whole of society! Be careful what you wish for!

@Angelswithflirtyfaces

It is insensitive of them. But hopefully once this section of society really start to properly struggle and feel resentful too, it might actually change things. Sadly that is often the way, use it to start an honest conversation about how everyones life is getter harder and get them to do something rather than just whinge.

And once ‘this section of society’ starts to struggle, life gets worse for everyone. If they stop having haircuts, and beauty treatments, and eating out, and having home improvements done etc, it’s the people who work in those trades who inevitably struggle.

@Hiphophippityskip1. I sympathise— I’ve been comfortably off but not well off and struggled at times too. And I do remember the feeling of adding up in your head in the supermarket. I often think the people who have had a bit of both — can judge the room best .

[quote TabithaTittlemouse]@JustLyra absolutely I agree but op didn’t mention foodbanks. Recent posts on here seem to say that it’s unfair to mention price increases unless you are completely broke.[/quote]
But she is talking about people with very different incomes. So it’s not rude to expect people who have grumbles, but not worries to be sensitive to people with actual worries

I understand. I have a friend that is constantly complaining about the prices of stuff, and gets upset when she sees people with baskets full of food especially if she "thinks" they bought them with government assistance. Which I could understand all her moaning however she has two incomes - she gets "alimony" from her ex husband (about 1.5K a month) and she has a full time job making over 55K a year.

I'm baffled at how she can be upset about someone on a low income is getting assistance yet she makes well above what they get.

And it's funny cause she's always buying shoes and clothes but still complains.

once I was round a friends house and she was talking about how they were "really having to pull their belts in" after coming back from holiday. In the same conversation I had to bite my tongue when she mentioned several meals out that month, another holiday they had booked and some landscaping they had had done in the garden. All of which were beyond our means at the time. For me pulling our belts in was shopping at Aldi or walking to the shop to buy only what we could carry to save on petrol/parking, or waiting til payday til I could buy the kids new shoes or school uniform.
Now we are fortunate to be in a better financial position and I try and gauge what I say to friends in different circumstances. That's not to say I might not express shock at how much diesel has gone up.

@Angelswithflirtyfaces

It is insensitive of them. But hopefully once this section of society really start to properly struggle and feel resentful too, it might actually change things. Sadly that is often the way, use it to start an honest conversation about how everyones life is getter harder and get them to do something rather than just whinge.

Which section of society do you think votes Tory Just the born rich? There aren't enough of those people to swing an election. The Sun is a Tory-supporting newspaper.

If people want to moan they can moan. If people want to share that they’re enjoying themselves they can do that too. I dont like this direction that only those who consider themselves at the bottom have any right to feel anything at all. It’s all relative.

Yep, always the same on here though! If you can't grumble to your friends then who can you.

Also the other thing into account is that if you as an individual are prone to anxiety then just the perception in the media that everything is going up and will become unaffordable is enough to make someone feel like their world is collapsing even if the logical side of their brain would show that it really isn’t.

Once again, I don’t think anyone has the right to tell other people how they are allowed to feel. Im confident that it rarely done in an effort to make anyone else feel worse.