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To trust my gut with this one?

100 replies

soph901 · 13/04/2022 09:50

I've been seeing a guy since October and he's known from the start I suffer with anxiety and depression. For the majority I am okay, I go to work and I'm quite a happy person however I was hospitalised last year with my depression.

Anyway, he's got a temper and he's been in a few fights since I've been seeing him. He's a boxer and I think that same attitude comes out when in normal situations.

We are in our 30s and I've never been with anyone who's had a temper etc, we were in the local pub with his parents and he kicked off because a man was touching a girl at a bar who he knew and she has a boyfriend. It was embarrassing and I didn't know what to do or say. His Dad is a retired chief inspector for the met and this was the first time I met them. I couldn't work out how this guy I'd met who told me he'd come from a respectable family etc had such bad anger problems.

At the weekend, we went out for drinks for a friends birthday. He kicked off because a man spoke to me at the bar (literally said how long it was taking to being served) nothing untoward or flirty. We got back to his friends and he kicked me out, 45 minutes away from my home town and I had to call my friend to pick me up.

He stayed up all night snorting cocaine and drinking, again, I've never touched drugs and something I disagree with. All night he was sending me nasty messages and then Sunday asked me to go round and talk, my car was at his and some of my clothes etc so I got dropped off.

He was really sorry and I let it go. Monday I woke up with really bad anxiety and I was upset, he shouted at me, told me I need to exercise and that he wish he had time to be down but he can't as he's got a house to run etc.

I went to work feeling really small and run down. Last night I got back to his after work and he got us a take away, I had a massive lump in my throat and chest and my stomach was in knots and I cannot explain how uncomfortable I felt. Again, he was really nice and ran me a bath. Whilst I was in the bath the feeling of needing to get away was getting stronger and I text my aunt to let her know that I had a gut feeling to get away, he was in bed and I said to her I would pack my stuff in the morning when he went to work and leave.

This morning he's called and I've cried because I'm so gutted that the guy who was so nice to me in the beginning is somebody I don't recognise. I've never been in an abusive relationship before but he was again, really kind and saying he was sorry for the way he handled my anxiety. This was after I told him I was going home for a while. I feel like he's playing the nice guy to get me to stay there.

I've come home and my stomach is in knots but I feel such relief that I'm away from his house and him.

I'm rambling and I'm doubting myself and wondering whether I've been too hasty in leaving even though I feel relief.

I've never had a gut feeling so strong to get away from somebody and I think it's shocked me.

In your experience are strong gut feelings mostly right. Im so conflicted because of the loving, attentive person he can be. I just feel really sad.

OP posts:
AreWeThereYetMummy · 13/04/2022 10:16

This isn't you relying on gut instinct, this is you running away from vile behaviour you've seen. You are doing the right thing.

You deserve more. Please do not go back to him, no matter how nice he is. It will not last.

Gonnagetgoing · 13/04/2022 10:17

Your gut is telling you all this for a reason. Watch Murdered By My Boyfriend (online somewhere originally a BBC3 programme.

He is an extremely dangerous man and it’s not if it’s when he’ll end up harming you or worse if you don’t end it with him.

Thehundredthnamechange · 13/04/2022 10:18

Normally, when people ask whether they should 'trust their gut' there aren't such huge, blatant warning flags! This isn't trusting your gut, this is your normal reaction to his very worrying behaviour. You're literally reacting correctly to the (very many) warning signs by wanting to escape. Don't doubt yourself. Never go back!

Cheeseandlobster · 13/04/2022 10:18

Run and don't look back. If you write an objective list you have

Temper
Fighting
Threatening behaviour to strangers who haven't done anything wrong
Drugs
Throwing you out in an area miles from home
No empathy or kindness when you are struggling
Manipulation

Out of interest, how did his parents react when he was kicking off?

Gonnagetgoing · 13/04/2022 10:19

Agreed with others it’s not just physical abuse it’s emotional. I had the latter with an ex and I thought I could deal with it. I couldn’t deal with it and most people can’t.

pinkyredrose · 13/04/2022 10:23

Dump this angry fucker

Astrak · 13/04/2022 10:23

Please don't ignore your gut instinct. This man is a dangerous, manipulative creep.
Block all rhe ways he has of contacting you. Call the police if he threatens you in any way.
You are worth 1000% more than this.

10HailMarys · 13/04/2022 10:26

Christ, this isn't gut instinct, it's a rational response to want to get the hell away from a violent, abusive, drug-using arsehole!

Most boxers are not remotely aggressive outside the boxing ring, by the way. He's not aggressive because he boxes; I think it's more likely that he boxes because he's aggressive.

He. Is. A. Violent. Abuser. Don't feel guilty/stupid/small for trusting him - he's done the classic thing of starting off with the love-bombing, Mr Nice Guy act. Now he's shown you his true colours. He will not change. Please get away.

Never, ever see him again. Don't agree to 'go and talk', or think you need to end it face to face or anything like that. He will try and guilt-trip you. He will promise to change - he's lying. He will blame his anger issues on the drugs or the boxing or something and will promise to get help - he's lying about that too. He will probably alternate between being angry and then claiming he's devastated. He might even threaten to harm himself - ignore that, it's all part of the manipulation and it's emotional blackmail. He wont' harm himself, and if he does, it will be entirely his fault and entirely his problem, not yours.

He'll almost certainly say that you 'owe him closure' or that you 'owe it to him to explain in person' or something. But you don't owe him that. You owe him nothing. You are a decent, strong person. You can do this Flowers

Lottapianos · 13/04/2022 10:26

'It's only a matter of time until he's physically violent. And he will be so, so, sorry. Until he does it again.'

Completely agree. He sounds absolutely petrifying. Well done for listening to your gut and getting out. Now stay out. Forever

misskatamari · 13/04/2022 10:27

Good lord. Run run run run run run!

This man is so abusive! Please get away from him and block contact.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 13/04/2022 10:28

Your gut says to leave him but so does all the objective evidence.

Chickychickydodah · 13/04/2022 10:29

Please be safe and dump / block this guy

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2022 10:30

I spoke to my friend about it and she said this is exactly how abusive relationships start and she wishes she'd listened to herself in the beginning (she was a victim of DV).

I've been in a similar relationship with a pathologically jealous and controlling man. Trust your gut. He's abusive. He might kick off when you tell him it's over so I wouldn't break up with him in person. I would confide in someone and have them with you if possible.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2022 10:33

Your gut is telling you all this for a reason. Watch Murdered By My Boyfriend (online somewhere originally a BBC3 programme.

Yes, second this. It's a chilling programme, that helps you understand the dynamics of this kind of relationship.

ExplodingCarrots · 13/04/2022 10:33

Please listen to what all the posters have said . I can't really add anymore to that.

What worries me is that you said you cant block him. Please don't keep in contact with him to placate him . You send a straight to the point message saying it's over and you wish him well. And to not contact you again. You block him and if he turns up you need to call the police .

People like this cannot be reasoned with . He's a master manipulator who will say the right things to pull you back in . He will cry , beg and just want to 'talk'.

You sound a very lovely person and your gut is absolutely correct . It's screaming at you.

itsgettingweird · 13/04/2022 10:38

Oh my lovely.

You know this goes way beyond your gut instinct.

This guy is abusive.

Don't allow your anxiety to let you question yourself on this - you are worth far more than that.

DrManhattan · 13/04/2022 10:40

You have done the right thing. You just need to let your heart catch up with your head.

queenMab99 · 13/04/2022 10:46

Gut instinct is irrelevant here, common sense will tell you to get out while you can, he sounds horrible and dangerous!

Was1969 · 13/04/2022 10:47

Definitely get rid for your own sanity. This behaviour will only get worse. Get out before you fall too deep. Sending hugs x

IvorCutler · 13/04/2022 10:47

Get away from him. You’re not stupid and I understand that you must be feeling very sad, but you can do so much better Flowers

lurker69 · 13/04/2022 10:48

Do not go back! I have been there, it will get worse he will physically hurt you, you know this! He has shown you exactly who he really is and it is not the nice bath running man! he is unpredictable & violent.

ColinFirthsClingyWetShirt · 13/04/2022 10:51

Yeah, that's not gut instinct, that's just your
intelligent brain recognising blatant abuse!

STAY AWAY from him!!!

ColinFirthsClingyWetShirt · 13/04/2022 10:55

Just little extra:

STAY AWAY!
STAY AWAY!
STAY AWAY!

FlowersFlowersFlowers

Calmdown14 · 13/04/2022 10:56

There are red flags all over this.

Don't be embarrassed. Be proud that your instincts are good.

Even if he's not a violent abuser, you are not on the same page. The drug use especially in someone so volatile is never going to end well. It's not something that fits with how you want to live.

Ending it before it gets any deeper is absolutely right. You don't need 'proof' he's not a decent person. He's shown behaviour that isn't acceptable to you and that is all that matters. He can be as nice as he wants the rest of the time but you'll never now un see that other side so there's no future in it

Campervangirl · 13/04/2022 10:57

We have instincts for a reason, they help to keep us safe but only if we listen to them.
The fact that he said if you were male he would have been violent towards you actually made my blood run cold.

Is there an excuse you could give him to get a bit of space, go stay with family or a friend outside your area or having to go away on a course for work?

Tbh your post has worried me, you shouldn't have to make excuses to avoid but this fella sounds like a complete psycho, please don't see him face to face again, don't open the door if he turns up just call the police, I'd probably send a text saying "I'm sorry but I won't be able to see you again, all the best" no explanation as he knows exactly why you don't want to see him again.

And then I'd hunker down, change my routine and hopefully he'll move onto someone else (pity her).
Seriously though op, if he tries to approach you or your home call the police.

Stay strong and stay safe 💐

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