To miss genuine veggie food

[IdiotIntrusion]

In the light of all the vegan options coming out, what's happened to veggie food? Granted veggies can eat vegan but I want real cheese or mayo on my burger instead of the fake stuff.

Not even allowed to add a coffee to a 'vegan' meal at burger king, I assume because of the milk. Had to pay separately.

Just having a moan. It's annoying as hell. Anyone else?

@KittenKong

Some kids don’t like chocolate though. DS hated the stuff until he was about 10. My nephew doesn’t like it either (he gets a candy kitten advent calendars from aunty kitten)

She has a dairy free Easter egg though.

I just find it odd how so many people think vegan chocolate is somehow not real chocolate when chocolate is literally cacao...aka a plant 😂

Vegan burgers are the worst - especially the processed ones that taste and feel like I think I remember meat being like

Ew

So that’s myself I was talking about with the calendar - mid 50s - so don’t feel sorry for me 🤣 - I’m coeliac and my daughter thinks I can’t have chocolate so she got me a beauty calendar one year and a picture one another - I am honestly grateful as it’s kind already to get me one and very kind to care to get it right - she assumed I could only eat non dairy as it’s on free from aisle with some of my gluten free stuff but she got me some once and realised I didn’t like it - I can however eat some dairy chocolate. Guess I was highlighting the confusion of different free froms and how dairy free is often lumped in with gluten free.

I agree, I'm not vegetarian but often choose the veggie option when in a resturant because I don't like not knowing where my meats come from (I get all mine from a local butcher who can tell you the exact farm each piece of meat came from and even the name of the people who slaughtered it).

Love halloumi, but it's all vegan options and most of them I don't like or I can't change it up and have a none vegan drink.

@MsJinks

So that’s myself I was talking about with the calendar - mid 50s - so don’t feel sorry for me 🤣 - I’m coeliac and my daughter thinks I can’t have chocolate so she got me a beauty calendar one year and a picture one another - I am honestly grateful as it’s kind already to get me one and very kind to care to get it right - she assumed I could only eat non dairy as it’s on free from aisle with some of my gluten free stuff but she got me some once and realised I didn’t like it - I can however eat some dairy chocolate. Guess I was highlighting the confusion of different free froms and how dairy free is often lumped in with gluten free.

Fair enough.

@Wowzel

Vegan burgers are the worst - especially the processed ones that taste and feel like I think I remember meat being like

Ew

Aren’t all burgers processed?

Yes, many vegetarian options are disappearing. And I do not like vegan pastry, or cheese.

You're correct, but why do you have to be so derogatory towards vegan food - 'fake'

Well, it’s not “real” meat but it’s presented as tasting/looking looking like meat. It’s also often highly processed (if you use a definition similar to that of the Nova system) which means it’s removed from being food in a recognisably “natural” form.

I’m vegan but I hate all the fake meat and think vegan cheese is revolting

I don't mind vegan, but I hate the fake meat - I'm not a fan of meat, real or fake. Not too keen on fake cheese either. I also eat vegetarian to be healthier and I don't want over processed convenience foods, I miss chickpea burgers, falafel, veggie curries. Even the sight of fake burgers oozing fake blood makes makes me want to hurl.

Dd moans the same but has persuaded local McDonald's to give her real cheese on her mcplant, small victories

Try finding a restaurant that does Gluten free options. It's ridiculous in the 21st century. Hardly any restaurants, including fast food chains offer gluten free options!

@Horcruxe

YANBU.

when I go for the veghie/ vegan option,.I want veggies or proper food.

Not plastic/ fake meat with loads of god know what dished up.

Vegan should mean vegetables/ lentils, not a plastic creation dreamt up in a lab somewhere

I agree. I lot of the vegetarian/ vegan replacements have all these additives and ingredients in them (that I can't even pronounce) in their foods. Really puts me off.

I absolutely agree with you OP

I’m not veggie but will eat vegi most of the time on a night out when I don’t know where the meat has come from

Veggie food being replaced by vegan makes me opt for the meat option.

I really don’t understand the 'plant based' options and they aren’t nice

I really feel for vegetarians who have battled , for decades, to eat meat/fish free food.
Just as the culinary world opened their eyes to vegetarians they were hijacked by vegans.
And so menus seem to only cater for omnivores and vegans.

Vegetarians shafted all the way , their hopes truly dashed.

I often don't eat meat at a restaurant but am finding I eat meat/fish more , at a restaurant because there's no vegetarian option.
I can't stomach ( literally) many of the vegan options.
And , strangely enough, neither can my son's girlfriend, who is a vegan.

@BrightYellowDaffodil

You're correct, but why do you have to be so derogatory towards vegan food - 'fake'

Well, it’s not “real” meat but it’s presented as tasting/looking looking like meat. It’s also often highly processed (if you use a definition similar to that of the Nova system) which means it’s removed from being food in a recognisably “natural” form.

But a lot of meat foods are also highly processed and not in their natural form either. When was the last time you saw a chicken that looks like a chicken nugget for instance? Or a pig that looks like a sausage or a cow that looks like a burger?

@Suzi888

Your family either have no taste buds or are lying to you to protect your feelings when they say they cannot tell the difference between butter and fake butter- even different brands of real butter taste different! And fake milk tastes powdery and sticks in your throat (I personally don't drink cows milk either so it's not like I like milk!)

I can tell if someone substitutes dairy with highly processed packed with additives products. I'd rather dip bread in olive oil

I often don't eat meat at a restaurant but am finding I eat meat/fish more , at a restaurant because there's no vegetarian option.
I can't stomach ( literally) many of the vegan options.

I am finding this, I've taken to eating fish when eating out these days, whereas I'd normally opt for vegetarian.

@LennyAndTheDucks in terms of “highly processed” I’m referring to what’s done to the raw ingredients and what they’re combined with. A burger can just be minced meat that’s been shaped into a patty along with herbs, seasoning and maybe some egg. Minced meat is in its original form other than the mincing, herbs and seasoning are minimally processed other than drying/grinding and egg is in its original form other than having been beaten.

Most vegan alternatives I’ve found have had a great deal more processing and are incorporated with less natural ingredients: emulsifiers, stabilisers, so on and so forth. A good rule of thumb is that they’re not ingredients you would buy as standard in a supermarket. I don’t go to Tesco for some meta bisulphate! As an example, the following are listed as the ingredients for LM sausages (apologies for the random capitals, I’m C&Ping): Rehydrated Textured SOYA Protein (71%), Water, Rapeseed Oil, SOYA Protein Concentrate, Seasoning (SULPHITES) (Dextrose, Flavourings, Salt, Onion Powder, Yeast Extract, Colour: Red Iron Oxide), Fortified WHEAT Flour (WHEAT Flour, Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Stabiliser: Methyl Cellulose, Tomato Purée, Salt, Raising Agent: Ammonium Carbonates

There’s more info here: world.openfoodfacts.org/nova

I sent back a vegan burger the other day as it was so meaty in taste and texture that I thought they had given me the wrong one.

I'm still not convinced. I didn't eat it.

Please bring back proper veggie burgers. With vegetables. Not this lab produced crap.

@Carpy88999

For the actual vegetarians can I ask why you don't eat meat?

Don’t like the taste or texture of it. Love dairy and eggs though.

Totally agree OP.

Some of the stuff is actually really good nowadays. The supermarket stuff isn't ever going to food anyone but some of the cashew "cheeses' from small scale producers are incredible in taste and texture.

Maybe - but cashew farming is also ethically very problematic. I have yet to find a fake cheese that is edible which is why I' m veggie not began

I’m not vegan or vegetarian but love burger kings vegan whopper, never noticed any issues with the cheese, it tastes like the same fake, plastic cheese they use for the meat burgers.

We were driving behind a supermarket home delivery van today and the back of it was covered with the words MEAT FREE and pictures of all the processed crap you can buy. I’ve been vegetarian for a long time and this utterly enraged me - I think it’s the fact it was all pretending to be meat and even needed the word in the advert. Why not just eat bloody vegetables and pulses?!