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neighbour asking me to get my trees lopped

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ladylush · 08/01/2008 15:24

AIBU in being irked that a neighbour who lives diagonally behind us knocked on my door the other day and asked if we could cut our tree? It is a Sycamore (actually there are two side by side) and it is established. It was here before we bought the house and was pruned back hard (18 months ago). The neighbour complained that she had no sunlight in her garden last summer because of the tree. It is not wide but it is tall (no leaves at the moment so only an issue in summer) - about 18ft. I told her that whilst it may be a nuisance for her, it is a benefit to us because it provides screening (which is great when we want to use our garden). In the winter she can see straight into our house from her bedroom window. I also told her that we would not be paying a tree surgeon to cut it every year. She then offered her to send round her son's friend (a tree surgeon) next week (who would do it as a favour for them) and that we would only have to contribute towards the cost of removing the branches. However, we discussed it and decided that we would prefer to employ a tree surgeon of our own at a time that suits us and that when we do get it cut back, we will not take as much off as she would want. I think if a sunny garden was that important to her she should have bought a house with a large garden with a southerly aspect instead of a west facing 35ft garden.

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pooka · 08/01/2008 16:02

Sycamores can grow nearly 2 feet per year. How long has she lived there? Only asking because she might well have moved in long before the tree became established, and so the shade in her garden may have increased unacceptably since she moved in.
We have a lovely cherry in our garden that I remember planting. Was about 25 years ago. It is now about 25 feet high. It provides great screening and I love having trees in the garden to soften the feel of the place. And if someone was to ask me to have it lopped over and beyond routine tree maintenance, I would say no. Our garden is north facing though and about 50 feet long, as are those of the houses that back onto us. Privacy a big deal, and if it were removed, they would suffer a greater loss of privacy than us (because we are 3 storey).

morningpaper · 08/01/2008 16:03

come on give us your address and we'll look it up on Googlemaps

pooka · 08/01/2008 16:03

Would say no politely, and would consider a slight trim for the benefit of the health of the tree. But a few feet being taken off would have a egligible impact on shade.

prettybird · 08/01/2008 16:04

So if none of it overhangs her garden, then there isnothing she can do.

There is a new law regarding "problem" hedges (like Lelandii) but that wouldn't apply in your case.

You need to judge how often you are comfortable with your tree being lopped. And howe much her potential displeasure at your not doing something when she wants you to would discomfit you. Sounds like "not a lot"

LadyMuck · 08/01/2008 16:08

Have to say that I view sycamores as weeds. But that is irrelevant...

ladylush · 08/01/2008 16:08

Pooka, that is how we feel. We would be extremely overlooked by the houses behind us if we pruned the tree hard (they are elevated). I don't know how long she has lived there and didn't think it was any of my business to ask her. However, I do know that the trees were pruned back as hard as they could be 18 months ago. We got little privacy the first summer we were here due to this, but last summer the leaves were lovely and plentiful. Therefore we will not prune them back this hard again. However, that means she is always going to be disatisfied every other summer!

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morningpaper · 08/01/2008 16:09

Sycamores grow fast and now is the time to prune - you can prune every year as faras I am aware, and to be honest with this sort of fast-growing huge tree you will need to

They grow up to 100 foot at least so are totally unsuitable in a small garden - you should really keep on top of pruning because if unchecked it can cause subsidence (as I've learnt to my v. expensive cost )

bozza · 08/01/2008 16:11

sycamores are pretty hardy trees in this country and grow pretty well IME.

ladylush · 08/01/2008 16:12

I think it is actually a Maple - but they are the same family anyway. One of them bears red rather than green leaves and I think that is the one she wants cut.

Ladymuck

Prettybird
Morningpaper - that is interesting.

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AngharadGoldenhand · 08/01/2008 16:15

Depending on how big your garden is or what aspect it has, you could consider a hedge round a seating area or one of those sails.

This could you give privacy when you really want it - for sitting out or eating - and still leave you on good terms with the neighbours.

gscrym · 08/01/2008 16:20

You may also need to check that if you're in a preservation area and that the tree is not subject to any preservation orders. Also, there's a percentage of a tree that you can cut back without causing permanent damage. If you get too much cut, you'll kill it.

prettybird · 08/01/2008 16:24

Not sure if this is the same type of sycamore that you have.

ladylush · 08/01/2008 16:32

Not sure if it is that one PB as there is no picture.

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ladylush · 08/01/2008 16:45

Just checked with the council and there is no TPO.

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itsahardknocklife · 08/01/2008 16:56

I think it is nice of her to offer to have it cut. With overhanging trees, it is the responsibility of the tree 'owner' to dispose of the branches, so she is being fair from her point of view.
BUT if the tree is in your garden and you like it (and I know what you mean about it providing a screen and privacy), there's not much she can do except cut down any branches that overhang her garden (and put the branches in your garden to dispose of).
My old garden was shaded completely by some massive trees that were on council land. I asked and they said they would not cut them down but I could cut down any overhanging ones. I didn't bother because I was planning to move before the next summer anyway - not because of the trees!

Spidermama · 08/01/2008 16:58

Oooooh very tricky.
I can see both sides.

beeper · 08/01/2008 17:07

we suffer from the curse of the leylandi, its a whole row that grows in a rented house two doors down. It blokes massive amounts of light from our house and I have to have the lights in in the back of the house everyday.

My neighbour has also let her Ivy grow all up her house and even though we keep it cut back from our side it has stained and marked the brickwork but its also all over our roof as we cant get up there to remove it.

Personally I would go round to her garden and house and see if its really affecting the light/

duchesse · 08/01/2008 17:12

We used to have this problem with a very difficult neighbour. The trees were ours, were over 100 years old, his house was built right next to them 25 years when they were only marginally smaller. He used to rant and rave about light, leaves etc, and basically wanted us to grub up the only privacy there was between us and him.

I should add that as they were so old, and were fighting for space, they had grown very tall and with straight trunks, so were not significantly overshadowing their modern split level already womb-like dwelling. Furthermore, the trees all had protection orders on them.

His suggested solution was to cut off all the branches on his side, from where they started around 10 metres up. We decided that would be a bad thing as it would destabilise the crown, and almost certainly lead to snapping an death of the tree.

We were at loggerheads over the damned things (pardon the pun). When we sold the house, and new neighbours moved in, he became inexplicably pleasant and chatty even though they have also declined to butcher the trees. I think that people too often fixate on trees, and or fail to notice them when they move in.

At the risk of sounding like a hippy, I don't see why people's short-term interests should override the tree's much longer term ones. So I say YANBU.

LIZS · 08/01/2008 17:12

We've just had 2 sycamores lopped and they are still over 18ft tall., I'm sure . Have been advised ot get it done every 4 to 5 years.

pointydog · 08/01/2008 17:29

sigh. This must be such a common neighbour dispute.

I think you are being unreasonable. You could say that if you wanted such extreme privacy you should have bought a house without close neighbours instead of blocking out sunlight and spoiling gardening/enjoyment for people round about you who are offering to get the hard graft done for you.

Have some empathy. It's not hard.

pointydog · 08/01/2008 17:30

and you must have a very big garden because sycamores are huge trees.

pointydog · 08/01/2008 17:31

And I'm sure she noticecd the tree was there but obviously (misguidedly) thought the neighbours would listen to a reasonable request. How wrong

glaskham · 08/01/2008 17:44

i take it as she live diagonally opposite no branches will over hang into her garden anyway?....she sounds like a horrid woman to live near, and i'd rather keep the tree's there to stop people like her looking into your windows!!!....maybe she fancies your dp and wants to watch his silouette in the window of your bathroom!!haha!!

ladylush · 08/01/2008 17:53

lol glaskham - he is rather dishy

pointy - have you considered a name change to pointybitch?

duchesse - yes as in your case these trees have grown upright with thin trunks and the span is thin iyswim. Probably because they were planted too near each other. Bad planting - I agree. We are not responsible for that though. I would consider removing one of them and planting some bamboo or something similar to provide screening and greenery. I think a garden without trees is depressing.

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ladylush · 08/01/2008 17:57

LIZS - hope you don't mind me asking but how much roughly does it cost to get them lopped?

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