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My daughter has woken up today (age 4) insists nothing is wrong but is SO pale and doesn't want to eat or drink. She's been asleep back in bed since 9am, just got up for 5 minutes and has now gone back to bed again. No temperature, nothing else obviously wrong. I was thinking sick bug/tummy bug etc but surely something would have happened by now? I'd usually just go along with it and see what happens but care isn't as good over the weekend but our docs is brilliant if I get her seen today. Is it worth contacting the GP (or 111 etc) or will they just say 🤷‍♀️ there's nothing actually really wrong. My instincts are saying there is something wrong 😕 don't know what to do.

Gosh that’s a tough one. If it were me, I’d be inclined to think she was cooking some sort of bug and I just had to wait it out.

Any rash at all?

Ah poor love. Nothing you describe so far would have me thinking this needs medical attention - kids get bugs sometimes & sounds like sleep is probably the best thing for it. Do try to keep her fluids up (ice lollies could work if she won’t drink). I hope she feels better very soon.

Thank you. I guess because it's Friday I'm thinking if she gets worse over the weekend I'm relying on 111. No rash. I'll just keep letting her sleep and see what happens I guess. Hopefully if we do need 111 they're better than last time.

Anyone have experience of sick bugs showing like this? I have a bit of phobia of vomit so hoping it's something else!

I know, it’s always hard when they get poorly on a Friday! Very good point about fluids and ice lollies above. Hopefully she’ll be all good after another big sleep. Let us know how she gets on.

Always go with your instincts. Make a call and get professional advice. I'd want someone to see her if her appearance is the main symptom.

Do a covid test if you have one. Tiredness was the only symptom my 4 year old had with it

Hesitant to write this because you should definitely go with your instincts but has she just finished school/ nursery for the holidays? Mine sometimes crash a bit after term has finished like they're a bit run down and then after a day of rest and a good nights sleep they're fine again, like I said though go with your gut better safe than sorry.

Thank you we do have covid tests not sure I could coax her to do one right now though but I will ASAP. I'm really wavering on whether to contact the docs but I also don't want to be a timewaster.

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Hesitant to write this because you should definitely go with your instincts but has she just finished school/ nursery for the holidays? Mine sometimes crash a bit after term has finished like they're a bit run down and then after a day of rest and a good nights sleep they're fine again, like I said though go with your gut better safe than sorry.

Yes their last day was Wednesday. She was OK yesterday but we didn't go anywhere.

Both my sons have just fallen down with a virus the symptoms are stomach ache and going grey being tired "feeling sick" but not actually being sick its wiped them out for days but they have perked up now it was weird while it lasted

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Both my sons have just fallen down with a virus the symptoms are stomach ache and going grey being tired "feeling sick" but not actually being sick its wiped them out for days but they have perked up now it was weird while it lasted

How odd, glad they're feeling better. Could be this.

No emergency symptoms so no need to contact or visit GP on first day. Anyone can have an off day, especially kids.

Just encourage her to drink water, and let her sleep.

I wouldn't seek medical attention as there's no urgent symptoms at the moment, but my dd's always present this before a sick bug, so I'd have a quiet day at home and monitor

Thank you I'd rather it wasn't a sick bug for all our sakes but will wait and see

Shes still asleep and has been bar 5 minutes since 9am 😫 never done this before.

If she rousable but sleeping I would just watch and wait, wake her for drinks but let her sleep it off.

I think you should call for advice. Better to phone then regret not phoning even if it is nothing serious.

You only need to contact a doctor/111 if she’s struggling to breathe, has a concerning rash, very high temp that doesn’t come down with meds, is bothered by light, has a stiff neck, has a seizure or is difficult to wake. Being a bit sleepy and pale is perfectly usual with a virus. I have 5 DC and 3 of them have covid right now including the two youngest (3 and 1). They’re all a bit pale, sleepy, temperature, no appetite and just not themselves.

I’m used to viruses now so know when to panic and not. Only panicked when my 3 year old had viral induced wheeze a couple of times and was using his intercostal muscles to breathe. His oxygen was 88 so called an ambulance.

You no your child better than anyone (especially us on here as we can’t see her), if your instincts are telling you to contact a GP, I’d do it. If you waste 5 mins of their day then so be it, they would always rather a worried parent double checks than miss something. Obviously it doesn’t sound like there’s much they can do if no temp, rash, breathings normal etc, but if she looks wrong and you are worried I’d call.

I'd phone the doctor about this. It's out of character for her. Your mum instinct is telling you something isn't right. She's pale&tired, both can be signs of serious illness. I don't want to be alarming, others are probably right that it's a bug brewing but in this instance I think you'll be happier being the parent that overreacted rather than under.

Pallor and sleepiness is mostly how Covid manifested in my godchildren. But equally could be any kind of virus. I don't think you need to panic, so long as you can rouse her and get fluids into her.

Wake her up.
She couldn’t have banged her head in the night/ early morning?
I’d check breathing is normal.
Temperature.
Skin. Check for rash and if she feels clammy.
Are extremities cold and rest of body warm? If any of these are abnormal then it’s A&E.

Thank you. She is easily woken as she's just told her dad to stop using his tools as they're too noisy (he is quite far from her in the house - he wasn't being mean I promise!) She isn't over sleepy, no rash, no temp etc. We're going to have to get her to do a covid test ASAP I think and just keep an eye on her. It's too late now for the doc so will have to rely on 111 if she gets worse. I do appreciate the support on here.

No stiff neck, she said her hand ached earlier which was odd, she's not a sickly child so wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. Maybe I should check if anything else is aching or she has an aversion to light.