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Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

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BigGreenSpacehopper · 08/04/2022 09:05

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

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YogaLite · 10/04/2022 18:26

Yes, I also think that Tories will bring themselves down because of the contempt to the majority of ordinary people in this country. Sooner the better IMO.

UhtredsLatestPaganHussy · 10/04/2022 18:27

usual names cheering every revolting thing this government does.

cakeorwine · 10/04/2022 18:29

@JaniieJones

Well no Blossomtoes that's all a bit dramatic isn't it, I didn't mention workhouses. My point was there was probably more need for food banks in the dark days of power cuts etc in the 70s when people really did go hungry. We shouldn't need any charity/volunteer services but we do.
Is it something to be proud of that there are more food banks, charities offering advice on saving money, heating advice, advice on making your money go further etc|?

On the one hand, it's great that we have people in society who are prepared to help their fellow human beings in time of need, struggle and poverty

One the other hand, the fact that such conditions exist in the first place is a damning incitement of the people in power who have helped exacerbate the situation and who seem oblivious to the suffering of many people.

Blossomtoes · 10/04/2022 18:29

@UhtredsLatestPaganHussy

usual names cheering every revolting thing this government does.
A distinct minority, fortunately.
cakeorwine · 10/04/2022 18:31

It's like complaining that there's more charity shops nowadays. It doesn't mean we are all more poverty stricken it just means there's more ways of helping people

Do you know the latest predictions for actual poverty in this country and how the latest increases in the cost of energy and inflation will play into those figures?

JC544D · 10/04/2022 19:12

The United Kingdom is the 5th richest economy in the whole world, there should be no need for foodbanks unless the government is running something seriously wrong.

Soffit · 10/04/2022 19:22

@Blossomtoes

Food banks are a good thing

I can’t believe I just read that. I thought only Rees Mogg could possibly come out with something so crass. What would be a truly excellent thing would be if food banks were redundant and we didn’t have people so poor they rely on charity to eat. What next? A call to reintroduce workhouses?

I suppose all those work house-turned- museums scattered around the country could be brought back into use again. It's a good thing nobody got rid of them in the first place. Hmm
VladmirsPoutine · 10/04/2022 19:34

In this country there should be no such thing as a food bank. And indeed if such a thing existed nurses certainly shouldn't be having to run from their shift to get to one to feed their family!

The tories have really done a number on a lot of people! But the craziest thing is more people are literally one pay cheque or one asset they own away from utter destitution but they still champion these policies. What will it actually take! I remember the heady days when Corbyn said broadband should be a free for all but was laughed at. I wonder how many people let alone children suffered during lockdown as a direct result of having no access to the internet.

The country is in love with suffering.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 10/04/2022 19:38

Food banks are a good thing. We could've done with them in the 70s and 80s when people went hungry.

Really Blush

Is it also a good thing that we have so much in work poverty? People in full time jobs who cannot afford to feed their families, choosing between eating and heating. People sleeping in their cars close to their workplace because they cannot afford the petrol to commute every day. Some of my teens friends are taking extra shifts to help pay family bills while also juggling A levels, one cannot shower at home because her boiler is broken and her DM can't afford to fix it.

HannibalHeyes · 10/04/2022 19:39

I'm with Henning Wehn...

Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman
Blossomtoes · 10/04/2022 19:41

@HannibalHeyes

I'm with Henning Wehn...
That’s brilliant. I’m with him too.
SueSaid · 10/04/2022 20:25

Germany have foodbanks, I've no idea what he's on about and I don't think he knows either.

cakeorwine · 10/04/2022 20:31

@JaniieJones

Germany have foodbanks, I've no idea what he's on about and I don't think he knows either.
Speaking of the UK, is the increase in foodbanks and food bank usage a good thing?

I work for a charity. I know the issues out there and we are seeing an increase in calls, especially in regards to energy costs. We are hearing some horrendous stories.

There is complacency among Tory Ministers about this.

BambinaJAS · 10/04/2022 21:05

@JaniieJones

Germany have foodbanks, I've no idea what he's on about and I don't think he knows either.
You cannot be this delusional.

It just boggles the mind how little understanding you have of other countries.

The UK is a massive anomaly in Europe. We have material pockets of absolute deprivation that you simply don't see in western Europe.

Thats a direct consequence of Tory policy choices.

I am simply aghast at the lack of understanding of this in the UK. Your blinkered view of the situation makes no sense to anybody with actual intelligence and empathy.

JohannSebastianBach · 10/04/2022 21:06

Germany does have food banks but they aren't so desperately needed

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 22:10

[quote Clavinova]jgw1
@ Clavinova have you had the same memo that says one has to abandon defending NoTax and instead big up Big Dog?

I don't think I need to 'big up Big Dog' - he's doing quite well himself:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643

www.spectator.co.uk/article/at-least-boris-johnson-knows-the-difference-between-men-and-women[/quote]
Has Big Dog explained yet why he needed a birthday party in order to do some work, but denied that opportunity to millions of children?

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 22:16

@JaniieJones

'Every single one of us is noticing the squeeze. Even those who are capable of riding out the storm.The fact remains, they've stripped most national services. Food banks popping up everywhere'

Again, there was a pandemic that needs paying for. 2 yrs furlough and all the test and trace etc all needs paying for.

Food banks are a good thing. We could've done with them in the 70s and 80s when people went hungry.

It's like complaining that there's more charity shops nowadays. It doesn't mean we are all more poverty stricken it just means there's more ways of helping people.

So what we definitely need to solve that is a Chancellor who is good at spending billions on fraudulent enterprises and who can't be bothered to make sure that those close to him are contributing their taxes the same as an average person has to.
jgw1 · 10/04/2022 22:19

@UhtredsLatestPaganHussy

'food banks are a good thing'

fucking hell.

what a revolting thing to read. food banks only exist because the Tories have ground so many people into poverty that charity has had to step in.

The Nasty party fans have to nasty.
Clavinova · 10/04/2022 22:51

Crikeyalmighty
Here in Denmark I can’t declare that all our income is UK derived (it is). If I live here for more than 6 months of the year I have to pay tax here wherever the income was derived..

You have reminded me that Helle Thorning-Schmidt (former Danish prime minister and former MEP) was a panellist on Question Time last month. She was somewhat sneery about the UK's contribution to the war in Ukraine. What I had not remembered at the time (and it was not mentioned by Fiona Bruce in her introduction) is that Helle Thorning-Schmidt is married to Labour MP Stephen Kinnock.

Looking at her Wikipedia page has revealed some surprising complications with tax. August 2010 -

Lord Kinnock's son embroiled in tax row that might cost his wife the Danish prime minister's job. [opposition leader at the time]

it emerged that Mr Kinnock junior pays taxes in Switzerland - which has the lowest taxes in Europe - and not in Denmark, where his family home is situated but which has the highest tax rates in the world.

It has saved Mr Kinnock and his wife Helle Thorning-Schmidt, leader of Denmark’s Social Democrats, an estimated £40,000 a year.

But it has caused uproar in Denmark, not least because Mr Kinnock’s wife’s party has called for Denmark’s tax rates to be raised higher to cope with the recession.

Lord Kinnock’s son and daughter-in-law deny any wrongdoing. But Ms Thorning-Schmidt, 43, admits she made a ‘big and sloppy error’ by giving incorrect information to the Danish authorities about how much time her husband spent in Denmark.

With a tax rate of just 15 per cent, Mr Kinnock pays an estimated £12,000 a year in taxes to the Swiss authorities.

If he paid taxes in Denmark, where everyone earning more than £45,000 pays 63 per cent, his tax bill would be in the region of £50,000, nearly £40,000 more.

Until the scandal, Ms Thorning-Schmidt was ahead in the polls and on course to win Denmark’s forthcoming general election.

Now she is fighting to save her political career as Right-wing enemies claim she is unfit to run the country.

She was forced to cut short the family’s summer holiday to respond to claims that she misled the Danish authorities by providing two different versions of her husband’s living arrangements.

She told the Justice Ministry her husband spent every weekend in Denmark, allowing him to be listed as a co-owner of their £400,000 home in the Danish capital.

But she told tax officials that Mr Kinnock did not spend more than 33 weekends in Denmark, thereby allowing him to avoid the country’s tax rates.

Police ordered an inquiry after claims that she and her husband were guilty of a criminal offence.

Mr Kinnock has agreed to pay taxes in Denmark for last year - even though he is not obliged to do so - in an attempt to kill off the row.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301252/Lord-Kinnocks-son-embroiled-tax-row-cost-wife-Danish-prime-ministers-job.html

As a non-resident and UK citizen Mr Kinnock would not normally be allowed to buy a property in Denmark.

According to a poll in Berlingske Tidende, a leading Danish newspaper, 56% of voters do not believe that it was only a "sloppy error".
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10856352

It gets more complicated (and interesting with some skulduggery from her opponents and press leaks) - you can read the rest here; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helle_Thorning-Schmidt

To cut a long story short - it all turned out ok for Helle Thorning-Schmidt and Stephen Kinnock (lucky them) and she was elected as Prime Minister of Denmark in 2011 - but given her sneery attitude towards the UK on QT, I wouldn't want her anywhere near Downing Street as the wife of a Labour government minister.

JC544D · 10/04/2022 23:07

The Conservative party have been the leading party, in power for over 12 years now.

JC544D · 10/04/2022 23:11

The Conservative party have been the leading party, in power for over 12 years now.

Why can't some people not deal with the blatant truth of the matter!

BambinaJAS · 10/04/2022 23:15

@JC544D

The Conservative party have been the leading party, in power for over 12 years now.

Why can't some people not deal with the blatant truth of the matter!

Blind ideology has led the country to this terrible result.

Conservatives have a lot to answer for.

They will likely be out of power for another 10+ years due to their actions.

Blossomtoes · 10/04/2022 23:18

They will likely be out of power for another 10+ years due to their actions.

Please God.

Crikeyalmighty · 10/04/2022 23:25

@Clavinova — yes there was a huge hoo ha about this simply because Danes are so upfront — big difference though is he was genuinely living in 2 places and back and forward. Non Dom isn’t allowed here unless you are here on a short secondment or as Stephen kinnockvwas genuibely between two places— - you lose a job in parliament here for anything even slightly dodgy - even 200 euros equivalent false expenses claim. Sunak would be out here. That’s how it is

HannibalHeyes · 10/04/2022 23:37

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Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman