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Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

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BigGreenSpacehopper · 08/04/2022 09:05

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

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Tigofigo · 10/04/2022 08:05

Interesting article on The Times site saying Rishi Notax v close to quitting

C8H10N4O2 · 10/04/2022 08:58

@Tigofigo

Interesting article on The Times site saying Rishi Notax v close to quitting
That may also have something to do with the green card and the US government.

One of the conditions of the green card as a route to citizenship is the declaration that the US is your place of residence. Another, less shouted about is that you state you will not participate in or stand for office in foreign governments. This is now being picked up on the US side since he was holding that card whilst serving in a foreign government.

Sunak came from relative obscurity (from a public PoV) to take a safe seat with which he had no prior connection. His politics are very Thatcherite, just like the Murtys. Most of his adult life has been spent with the super rich and the sense of entitlement that brings. Its not that surprising that he has handled this so badly or that he thought the rules didn't apply to him. Its the prevailing attitude in the current government and the superich.

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 09:06

or that he thought the rules didn't apply to him. Its the prevailing attitude in the current government and the superich.

This is just jealously. If you were as clever and successful as he you would do the same.
Please just be good and doff your cap when you see him, perhaps also tug your forelock.

HardyBuckette · 10/04/2022 09:09

@Tigofigo

Interesting article on The Times site saying Rishi Notax v close to quitting
Makes sense. His PM ambitions are over and his position as Chancellor isn't secure. This is nowhere near over, the least undignified option might be to resign to protect my loved ones from further intrustion family comes first yada yada.
awaynboilyurheid · 10/04/2022 09:17

If Rishi resigns it’s really just him leaving for a life of complete luxury. He’s made a humongous financial mess but guess what I’ll just run away now and let you all dig yourselves out of it for many many years, Oh and I’ve taken the spade.
Please stop voting for these people.

SleeplessInEngland · 10/04/2022 09:20

@closetmeupandshootmetotheskies

None of the MPs, tory or Labour, are clean on this and they are all as bad as each other. When we were told to stop home two years back, all of them crammed their fat snouts in the trough to buy new shiny tech to "work from home".

Anyone who thinks Labour are "special" or "different" is on crack and i want some too because insomnia is making me its bitch. Seriously though, they are all as bad as each other, hence the lack of opposition on this.

The trouble with “they’re all as bad as each other” is that it invariably means the tories win. Cynical voters = even more cynical governments.

And no, whatever Starmer’s failings I don’t believe he is as morally bankrupt as Johnson. Although who knows what a stint in power would do to him.

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 09:37

@awaynboilyurheid

If Rishi resigns it’s really just him leaving for a life of complete luxury. He’s made a humongous financial mess but guess what I’ll just run away now and let you all dig yourselves out of it for many many years, Oh and I’ve taken the spade. Please stop voting for these people.
But Jeremy Corbyn.
Tigofigo · 10/04/2022 09:42

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sunak-ponders-political-future-as-wife-escapes-downing-street-goldfish-bowl-5gftqcmkk

Here's the article.

Basically as PP said, he's lived an incredibly privileged, sheltered life, is ridiculously naive and out of touch as a result, and that combined with his ideology has led to some extremely bad decision making.

I think he needs to go. For his own sake as much as the country's.

Tigofigo · 10/04/2022 09:47

They really are not as bad as each other.

This Govt and ESPECIALLY Sunak are pushing more and more people into poverty. Including disabled people. Including children. Including elderly. Having creamed off billions into their mate's pockets and broken the law repeatedly in they process. How corrupt can you get for a supposed democracy?

I'm not a fan of Margaret Thatcher but at least she had integrity and an understanding of what it was like to grow up without huge privilege.

What's that saying about judging people on how they treat the least fortunate?

Nennypops · 10/04/2022 09:55

This Govt and ESPECIALLY Sunak are pushing more and more people into poverty. Including disabled people. Including children. Including elderly. Having creamed off billions into their mate's pockets and broken the law repeatedly in they process. How corrupt can you get for a supposed democracy?

To say nothing of the fact that it's just incredibly poor decision-making in economic terms, because the stark reality is that he is taking billions out of the economy. When people have to pay so much more for fuel bills, tax and National Insurance, they are not going to be paying for holidays, leisure activities, restaurants etc, which will simply cause yet more businesses to close down, more unemployment, so fewer people paying tax and more relying on benefits. It really is fiscal insanity which is driving us into recession.

Combining all that with all the disastrous consequences of Brexit, of course, takes the insanity off the scale. I suspect those responsible for teaching Sunak the Economics element of his PPE degree are just in utter despair.

StormzyinaTCup · 10/04/2022 10:02

Whether he goes or stays makes not the blindest bit of difference to our taxes or their taxes. In fact if he stands down she can revert back to paying non dom tax (or maybe even no tax). The country will still have a huge debt mountain that needs paying for.

I'm pleased he has asked for an enquiry into the leak. We all should hold politicians to account but I don't agree with how this has been done, she is not a public figure and has been thrown to the media for a very public mauling because someone somewhere has an axe to grind against her husband.

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 10:07

@Nennypops

This Govt and ESPECIALLY Sunak are pushing more and more people into poverty. Including disabled people. Including children. Including elderly. Having creamed off billions into their mate's pockets and broken the law repeatedly in they process. How corrupt can you get for a supposed democracy?

To say nothing of the fact that it's just incredibly poor decision-making in economic terms, because the stark reality is that he is taking billions out of the economy. When people have to pay so much more for fuel bills, tax and National Insurance, they are not going to be paying for holidays, leisure activities, restaurants etc, which will simply cause yet more businesses to close down, more unemployment, so fewer people paying tax and more relying on benefits. It really is fiscal insanity which is driving us into recession.

Combining all that with all the disastrous consequences of Brexit, of course, takes the insanity off the scale. I suspect those responsible for teaching Sunak the Economics element of his PPE degree are just in utter despair.

It is important to remember that because Rishi the benevolent is so clever and rich he is much better at dealing with the large sums involved in the Treasury than anyone else would be. For example someone who had lived in poverty would have no idea how to prioritise which of their mates to spaff millions of pounds on.
HotPenguin · 10/04/2022 10:20

It disgusts me how he claims his wife has been "smeared" - I'm a parish councillor (unpaid) and I've had to declare my husband's financial interests. These are recorded in a register that is open to any member of the public to see. Why shouldn't the chancellor of the Exchequer have the same scrutiny as me in my voluntary role???

C8H10N4O2 · 10/04/2022 10:22

@HotPenguin

It disgusts me how he claims his wife has been "smeared" - I'm a parish councillor (unpaid) and I've had to declare my husband's financial interests. These are recorded in a register that is open to any member of the public to see. Why shouldn't the chancellor of the Exchequer have the same scrutiny as me in my voluntary role???
Exactly, its a part of being in public office to avoid conflict of interests. Just as anyone doing work in the financial services sector has to declare not only their own financial interests but those of immediate family.

The idea that the person making the rules of financial services and taxation should be somehow exempt from this beggars belief.

Soffit · 10/04/2022 11:23

It is interesting how they show no actual remorse or bear any personal responsibility for the lack of transparency.

She wants the plebs off her back and is dictating down to them what she will give up (very little) and will not give up (non dom status).

He only really wants to find out who 'grassed him up'. I don't think this is about his £150k pa role. He is worried about how it will impact upon his prospects of gaining a global level career (for which this role was merely a springboard).

His frustration is not completely baffling. When measured against the usual Tory criteria, he is squeaky clean in many ways (just not every single one).

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 11:25

@Soffit

It is interesting how they show no actual remorse or bear any personal responsibility for the lack of transparency.

She wants the plebs off her back and is dictating down to them what she will give up (very little) and will not give up (non dom status).

He only really wants to find out who 'grassed him up'. I don't think this is about his £150k pa role. He is worried about how it will impact upon his prospects of gaining a global level career (for which this role was merely a springboard).

His frustration is not completely baffling. When measured against the usual Tory criteria, he is squeaky clean in many ways (just not every single one).

Remorse?

But they have done nothing wrong.
They are rich clever and successful and someone, probably Jeremy Corbyn has it in for them because they are jealous and not prepared to doff their cap and tug their forelock to their superiors.

Soffit · 10/04/2022 11:28

I suppose that it is logical that he would rally behind his wife as she/her family are the geese laying the golden eggs which will define his future career path/security. The impoverished, embittered masses upon whom he has piled on a massive load of misery are not a horse worth backing from the standpoint of a self-centered, self-serving person.
Whatever the reality of his UK upbringing, it is very clear that he emigrated inside his head many years ago and should not have dabbled in politics (even though he was headhunted).

midsomermurderess · 10/04/2022 11:29

To say that people who are upset or concerned by or affronted by this are jealous of the Sunak's wealth is quite simply juvenile. But there is a contingent of posters on here for whom jealousy is the only motive.

BambinaJAS · 10/04/2022 11:30

@StormzyinaTCup

Whether he goes or stays makes not the blindest bit of difference to our taxes or their taxes. In fact if he stands down she can revert back to paying non dom tax (or maybe even no tax). The country will still have a huge debt mountain that needs paying for.

I'm pleased he has asked for an enquiry into the leak. We all should hold politicians to account but I don't agree with how this has been done, she is not a public figure and has been thrown to the media for a very public mauling because someone somewhere has an axe to grind against her husband.

Do you even understand how public finances work?

For the 100000th time,

You cannot treat them as household finances. Any debt can be paid back over 100 years if you want. Not by crushing the economy for 4 (2026).

Choosing 4 years is political. Period.

Getting very tired of you Tory apologists.

BambinaJAS · 10/04/2022 11:31

@Soffit

I suppose that it is logical that he would rally behind his wife as she/her family are the geese laying the golden eggs which will define his future career path/security. The impoverished, embittered masses upon whom he has piled on a massive load of misery are not a horse worth backing from the standpoint of a self-centered, self-serving person. Whatever the reality of his UK upbringing, it is very clear that he emigrated inside his head many years ago and should not have dabbled in politics (even though he was headhunted).
His wife has no power or decision-making ability.

The person pulling the strings is her father - in India.

BambinaJAS · 10/04/2022 11:34

@Soffit

It is interesting how they show no actual remorse or bear any personal responsibility for the lack of transparency.

She wants the plebs off her back and is dictating down to them what she will give up (very little) and will not give up (non dom status).

He only really wants to find out who 'grassed him up'. I don't think this is about his £150k pa role. He is worried about how it will impact upon his prospects of gaining a global level career (for which this role was merely a springboard).

His frustration is not completely baffling. When measured against the usual Tory criteria, he is squeaky clean in many ways (just not every single one).

Relying on PR and Instagram to drive your "brand" is extremely difficult when you have complex financial arrangementa now.

All of that used to be hidden away (Panama Papers showed us this) so these folks could claim a moral persona.

Now its all mostly out in the open.

He was very naive. That is for sure

Soffit · 10/04/2022 11:34

"They are rich clever and successful "
Well, I would agree that they are "rich" and that he has used that wealth to propel his career. He is no more "clever" than most top tier politicians. She is certainly not an example of a successful woman heading the same way as, say, Nicola Horlick or Helena Morrissey. She has invested in a few loss making ventures for fun like a gym chain and otherwise lives off daddy.

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 11:39

@Soffit

"They are rich clever and successful " Well, I would agree that they are "rich" and that he has used that wealth to propel his career. He is no more "clever" than most top tier politicians. She is certainly not an example of a successful woman heading the same way as, say, Nicola Horlick or Helena Morrissey. She has invested in a few loss making ventures for fun like a gym chain and otherwise lives off daddy.
But it is very clever and successful to live off daddy. I mean why go to the bother of having to earn a living off someone else if you can just sponge off your parents?

I really don't understand why all the benefit scroungers don't do this as well.

Soffit · 10/04/2022 11:44

"I really don't understand why all the benefit scroungers don't do this as well."
They probably do. Their daddies may shout them a full tank of petrol once a year on their birthday. It's not really comparable to £100s of millions in dividend income.

I can imagine the argument last week at Number 11: "I never wanted to live in this dump anyway. I want to move back to my Kensington mansion. I'm going whatever they advise!"

Crikeyalmighty · 10/04/2022 11:50

Those thinking she paid her tax in India— do you not think if that was the case they wouldn’t have said so by now as it looks slightly less bad?? Previous dividends have been funnelled via Mauritius- that’s on record it seems. And those saying they are all as bad. No they aren’t— if any labour or Lib Dem current politician and ‘in office’ was doing this— it would be all over the right wing press. What people do before they get into parliament and after they leave is their business really- but whilst in office your whole families finances, claims for expenses, tax arrangements and nice little backhanders (otherwise known as cash for questions) are up for scrutiny. Years ago when I worked for a bank I was hauled in because my ex husband (married at the time) who also banked with them , was over his overdraft and had 2 bounced cheques(small amounts) — Green cards also state you cannot apply for gvt roles outside the US— so they have broken the US rules and what’s probably alarming them now is the US could easily rescind the green cards. You get the big jobs- you play by the rules or you are fair game—