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To think hooray for Jamie Lee Curtis?

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CounsellorTroi · 05/04/2022 11:34

She is spot on.

To think hooray for Jamie Lee Curtis?
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stripeyflowers · 05/04/2022 13:31

Yawn.

Blossomtoes · 05/04/2022 13:33

@LittleGwyneth

I agree entirely - though she's had a mini face and neck lift which presumably makes it easier to feel good about ageing.
If she’s had a facelift I hope she didn’t pay her surgeon. Her face is exactly as you’d expect for a woman of 65.
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 05/04/2022 13:33

[quote AlphabetStew]@Fairyliz I think you're conflating two separate issues here. What JLC is currently talking about is ageing, what you're alluding to is more body image/body positivity related. Like someone happy to pose nearly naked and lap up the (positive) attention but then puts on some weight and decides 'stop looking at my body!'[/quote]
Agree. And it's also a symptom of being a woman in that industry ... especially when you are young I can imagine there is a degree of the "Pick Me" dance which goes on.

Remember the era she became famous in ... Hollywood was unashamedly misogynistic. Although actually it still is.

So yes ... as a mere mortal I look back on what I sometimes said/did as a younger woman and I wish I could go back and have a gentle word with myself.

Have no fooks to give now I'm pleased to say 😊

AmberLynn1536 · 05/04/2022 13:41

@SirChenjins

Well said JLC.

Can the posters on MN who talk about certain clothing being ‘granny’ or ageing, or who promote fillers and other nonsense as the only way forward when a woman starts to develop wrinkles please take note. The casual ageism on here is astounding.

Yes it’s constant, there is a thread in style and beauty asking how not to look like a middle aged aunt at a wedding, it’s so fucking depressing.
TobyMory · 05/04/2022 13:41

Given the horrifying photos of Madonna’s plumped up face I would say I definitely agree

LittleDidSheKnow · 05/04/2022 13:44

@Fairyliz

Well I disagree. I’m similar age to JLC and I remember when she was doing the aerobics things and constantly photographed in skimpy leotards showing how hot she was. Now it’s all about positive ageing, can’t remember her being bothered about that 30 years ago. I call jumping on the latest bandwagon.
She may have used all her plus points in the past - she had to - but has had a pretty good attitude to ageing for a long time. She's had grey hair for decades and I recall photos of her laughing in her underwear when she was 40-something and a bit pudgy.
AmberLynn1536 · 05/04/2022 13:49

@Fairyliz

Well I disagree. I’m similar age to JLC and I remember when she was doing the aerobics things and constantly photographed in skimpy leotards showing how hot she was. Now it’s all about positive ageing, can’t remember her being bothered about that 30 years ago. I call jumping on the latest bandwagon.
The thing is you don’t realise when you are younger how older women are perceived and treated particularly when young and gorgeous, let alone famous as well. Often it’s only when you hit middle age the scales fall from your eyes and reality bites, it’s probably been harder for JLC than us civilians, it must be brutal ageing in Hollywood.
ErrolTheDragon · 05/04/2022 13:51

I call jumping on the latest bandwagon.

I'd call it acquiring maturity and wisdom.

felulageller · 05/04/2022 13:55

Yeah she's fab.

megletthesecond · 05/04/2022 13:57

To be fair, it's easy for her to say as I'm sue she's had surgery in the past and is cushioned by wealth. She has the best personal trainers, chef and clothes.

HelloBunny · 05/04/2022 13:58

Agree re. facial treatments. It just doesn’t look good, whatever age you are. Fire away if you want to have them, though... I was recently working with a team of women my age, and a few of them had this strange sort of rubbery look. It was so distracting!

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 05/04/2022 13:59

Brilliant! Smile

MurmuratingStarling · 05/04/2022 14:01

She's gorgeous. Grin And yep, good for her!

MurmuratingStarling · 05/04/2022 14:02

@TobyMory

Given the horrifying photos of Madonna’s plumped up face I would say I definitely agree
I don't even know where to start with Madonna! Shock
ErrolTheDragon · 05/04/2022 14:02

It's a bit disappointing that quite a few posts on this thread are in one way and another judging older women by their appearance.

Wouldn't it be nice if women could be judged only on the content of their character rather than the qualities of their skin. Yeah, I know, dream on.

Gardeningcreature · 05/04/2022 14:10

Whenever I start watching a film and any female is as close in age to her son as her husband I switch it off. You get posters on here stating "Well I'm happily married to a man 40 years older than me and we have a young child and my husband at 70 looks amazing, people mistake him for a 30 year old." I just think " No, they absolutely dont. " and I really don't care, that life is not for me though.
If age is so irrelevant why aren't we constantly bombarded with films and tv shows where the woman is a lot older than her husband? It's so misogynistic and I won't add to the viewing figures.
Well done JLC.

SirChenjins · 05/04/2022 14:11

@ErrolTheDragon - if you mean the comments about Madonna then I think they’re more a criticism of the beauty/plastic surgery/aesthetics industries and the brainwashing crap that’s been peddled (mainly to women) for far too long now to the extent that a face that’s immovable, almost unrecognisable and filled with goodness knows what is deemed to look better than a face with - the horror! - wrinkles.

Blossomtoes · 05/04/2022 14:16

@megletthesecond

To be fair, it's easy for her to say as I'm sue she's had surgery in the past and is cushioned by wealth. She has the best personal trainers, chef and clothes.
Last week, Jamie spoke to Fast Company about her stance on plastic surgery and trendy cosmetic procedures.

”The current trend of fillers and procedures, and this obsession with filtering, and the things that we do to adjust our appearance on Zoom are wiping out generations of beauty

'Once you mess with your face, you can't get it back,' warned the actress

SpidersAreShitheads · 05/04/2022 14:16

Her message here is bang on, and something we all need to hear more of.

In fairness she’s spoken openly about the mistakes she made with Botox etc, and how she felt pressured into looking a certain way.

Personally I’m a bit ambivalent about JLC as she’s part of the TRA brigade. She has a trans daughter so I’d expect her to be supportive but imo she goes above and beyond just supporting her child and their choices. Some of her comments throw women and biology under the bus somewhat so I can’t be a complete cheerleader for her as a feminist icon.

But I do agree with her re ageing and how it’s perceived in women.

Prudencia · 05/04/2022 14:17

I agree with all the posters complaining about the casual ageism on MN. Posters are always dragging the age of someone into a post. I hate the posts encouraging other posters to gas light their MILS into thinking they have dementia as a 'joke' punishment. Yes I do report the posts and since I sent copies of some posts to Help the Aged, MN always removes posts now that try to trick older women into thinking they have a terminal disease. I wish more Mumsnetters rejected the casual use of ageist terms on here.

Briony123 · 05/04/2022 14:18

@Fairyliz

Well I disagree. I’m similar age to JLC and I remember when she was doing the aerobics things and constantly photographed in skimpy leotards showing how hot she was. Now it’s all about positive ageing, can’t remember her being bothered about that 30 years ago. I call jumping on the latest bandwagon.
Why on earth would she have been knowledgeable on the subject of ageing 30 years ago? What a bonkers comment.
MangyInseam · 05/04/2022 14:22

I don't know that I entirely agree that unless they are willing to become invisible women are seen as trying to look young. Nor that "dressing your age" which is a rather unpleasant phrase is all about trying to make women look more invisible.

I do know that some women feel that they become invisible, but I also know lots of women who feel as they get into middle age or beyond that they are taken more seriously. I'm not sure what the difference is between these groups of people, but it seems like it can go both ways from my perspective. For myself, I probably fall more into the latter group, I have more responsibility, you could say more power in my job, my position is stable in a way it wasn't before. There are women who find the opposite, but also men too who as they age find things like their job status becomes more precarious.

I do think there is something to be said for accepting things such as, your face will age, your body will change. The clothing stuff from my perspective is mainly about that - about not trying to look younger because that is somehow better. There are older women who are very fashionable and absolutely not invisible. And they can carry off things that would not look good or right on younger women. Some of it is that young people's clothing tends to be cheaper and more fad based.

Alondra · 05/04/2022 14:27

I 100% agree with her message. I will agree even more if she wasn't using botox.

SevenWaystoLeave · 05/04/2022 14:28

@SpidersAreShitheads

Her message here is bang on, and something we all need to hear more of.

In fairness she’s spoken openly about the mistakes she made with Botox etc, and how she felt pressured into looking a certain way.

Personally I’m a bit ambivalent about JLC as she’s part of the TRA brigade. She has a trans daughter so I’d expect her to be supportive but imo she goes above and beyond just supporting her child and their choices. Some of her comments throw women and biology under the bus somewhat so I can’t be a complete cheerleader for her as a feminist icon.

But I do agree with her re ageing and how it’s perceived in women.

You're ambivalent about her because she's not, what, suitably ashamed of having a trans daughter? Would you have more respect for her if she'd disowned her? What a weird and irrelevant statement.
LocalHobo · 05/04/2022 14:35

Can the posters on MN who talk about certain clothing being ‘granny’ or ageing, or who promote fillers and other nonsense as the only way forward when a woman starts to develop wrinkles please take note. The casual ageism on here is astounding.
Similarly I hate the term 'Karen' for a woman over 40 daring to state her point of view. Why is this less valid than a young woman or a man doing the same?

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