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AIBU - I read messages on my husbands phone

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SunnySideUp30Plus · 04/04/2022 14:17

I have never done this before but I am in a world of confusion and I hope that someone can (perhaps) talk some sense into me. I am a mum of two young children (under 5) and I am married to a man that helps a lot when he is around but he works away now most of the time. I never thought I would be raising two young children alone and I feel sad for that but also very grateful post-pandemic that he has work, as we had a tough time for a while with us both being out of work. Anway, recently he came back from a trip that was a few months long, I had this aching feeling while he was away that something wasn't right, he felt a little distanced on the phone and I know there were some heavy nights out with colleagues (he never goes out at home, out of his choice and I think definitely letting off some steam) when he came home, I did the unthinkable to put my mind at rest...I went through his whatsapps. I saw a couple of questionable conversations with female colleagues, two conversations in fact. One with a woman which was a few days of banter and then a few drunk texts where It looked like she was testing the waters asking his intentions, and asking him to be more direct with her and he also asked what her intentions were with him. There were a few suggestive posts as to this is where I am staying but other than that not too much to write home about. I asked him about this and he pleaded with me nothing happened, though went into a defensive mode and told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone. (we spoke everyday via calls in the evenings, I love to message him but he barely replies as he is always busy or tired) He was being very harsh with me and I just begged him to give me some reassurance that everything was okay. He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive. He told me this woman and He talked the next day in person and he told her nothing would happen and that he was married. and apparently she didn't realise. Then I also found a 2nd conversation with another woman, there was a lot more 'banter' here and then eventually when the woman told him she was leaving the place of work and returning home he confessed he was sad because he wanted to spend more time with her. This woman was particularly attractive and this whole thing has sent me into a tailspin. Am I overreacting over work colleagues that are spending time together abroad and enjoying a shared experience etc is this type of chat bound to happen and am I being too sensitive? I think what gets me the most is that my husband responds in quite a cruel and fiery way, I would love him to take me in his arms and tell me that there is nobody else but me or that he loves me but instead, he says I am jealous, have issues and that isn't his fault. They are just colleagues, he is flirting maybe but nothing would ever come of it.

I also need to add, and this pains me because I have never mentioned this to anyone, I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

He definitely does not have a way with words and can be quite tough sometimes, but he is the father of my kids, people love him, I love him but I just don't know what to think now. How am I going to feel content with him working away now knowing what I have read. I am so confused, am I being unreasonable to be so down and upset with him. I feel sick, anxious and can't concentrate on anything since he has returned, please tell me your honest opinions.

I work full time too and take care of the children and I am just feeling so underappreciated that he feels it is okay to have a fun and care free time while he is away and I am struggling to make it through every day alone with my hands full.

OP posts:
Quitelikeit · 04/04/2022 17:00

What a lying cheating pathetic excuse for a man he is op.

You are worth a millions times more than him. He does not deserve you or your love and he is also a pathetic father for treating the mother to his children this way and threatening their current stability in order to satisfy his sexual trysts.

Please make a plan to get this man out of your life. Save, improve your financial position and run!!

ChinstrapBobblehat · 04/04/2022 17:02

OP, it sounds like you’re in a far better professional and financial position than many women in your situation. The confident and successful person you are at work is who you truly are - you’ve just been undermined and devalued by this piece of shit for so long that you’ve stopped really believing it.

Bring that confidence to how you deal with this. Who is really going to be worse off if you end things? My bet is he’ll pull out all the stops to try to get you back once he realises he’s lost control and what he’s in danger of losing. Don’t let him. Remember who he really is and everything he’s done to you. Once you allow yourself to see how toxic your marriage is, you can’t unsee it.

Gonnagetgoing · 04/04/2022 17:03

You’re being taken for a mug here with these conversations and the condoms in his work bag.

As a PP said I’d be getting divorced.

billy1966 · 04/04/2022 17:05

@HangingRock25

"I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need"

Wow, what a fucken germ he is! He is lower than maggot shit! How can you let him speak to you like that?

What a truly vulgar thing to say.

He really is the dregs of society OP.

I sincerely hope you truly get what scum he is.

BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 04/04/2022 17:07

Emergency condoms in case a woman tries to rape him? Come on.

Aliceforgot · 04/04/2022 17:15

Wow, there is so much to LTB about here, and I never say that.

Momijin · 04/04/2022 17:17

Hi op. Yes the man has been cheating and I'm glad you finally realise.

The good thing is that you do everything anyway, you're the main breadwinner and are bubbly and attractive so you will have a much better life without him. You'll have your freedom, you won't be gaslighted and you will be appreciated for the amazing perosn you are. Enjoy your new life

Onthedunes · 04/04/2022 17:19

Say goodbye to him.

It's over.

He is very disrespectful.

And he's an idiot.

A self entitled fool who does not realise what he's got, it's time he grew up.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/04/2022 17:22

@BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ

Emergency condoms in case a woman tries to rape him? Come on.
Nah, he wears one 24/7 in case he trips and his dick falls into a woman's vagina.
5128gap · 04/04/2022 17:24

If he hasn't cheated on you, (which in fairness, is a possibility, because he sounds so awful, I can't imagine anyone would want to cheat with him) it's not for want of trying. He has worked very hard on trying to get at least two different women into bed, and optimistically carries condoms in case it works. Him telling you nothing actually happened is worthless, given I doubt very much that was his decision. He wouldn't put all that effort and planning in, then turn it down if the opportunity arose. And even if he were faithful as a rock, he is crude, insensitive and unpleasant to you. You can do much better, and not a lot worse.

Totalwasteofpaper · 04/04/2022 17:26

Honestly get out sooner rather than later.

If you are a high earner the longer you stay the more of (your) assets you will have to give the contemptible creep.

lizzielizard · 04/04/2022 17:27

[quote Cherry35]@MissNothing1991

That's not a huge invasion of privacy amongst a couple. My DH has the password to my phone and he leaves his unlocked all the time.

There shouldn't be any issue if you have nothing to hide.[/quote]
Absolutely. Phones between couples who live together should never be locked. If they are, there's something to hide.

Ionlydomassiveones · 04/04/2022 17:30

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Ohfgsnotagain · 04/04/2022 17:33

You’re being dealt a really unfair deal here. Your DH suspect is having all kinds of fun whilst he’s working away. The condoms are a huge red flag and his reason for having them is unbelievable, The flirty messages that are clearly him and the other woman fishing to see how far each other wants to take things are another huge red flag. You’re in a horrible position because presumably he has to go away with his job. I think you need an all cards on the table type talk. He needs to know you don’t believe him and you’re now questioning what is going on and whether your marriage is as good as you thought it was.

LBFseBrom · 04/04/2022 17:36

I'm glad you have found the thread helpful, SunnySideUp.

Frankly, your husband does sound dodgy. I wouldn't trust him an inch and am by nature extremely trusting. He also sounds crude in the way he speaks to you.

I'm glad you have a decent job and are confident in that environment.

I think you know what your next course of action should be but do make it on your terms and protect yourself and children. After that, onwards and upwards.

It's still hurtful and very hard for you.

Flowers
Bambooshoot · 04/04/2022 17:37

Let’s put it this way - when you go out, do you carry an emergency pack of conforms just in case you meet someone you absolutely have to have sex with, despite being married? And if not, why would he have a different set of rules?

Bambooshoot · 04/04/2022 17:38

@Bambooshoot

Let’s put it this way - when you go out, do you carry an emergency pack of conforms just in case you meet someone you absolutely have to have sex with, despite being married? And if not, why would he have a different set of rules?
Condoms! Prudish autocorrect.
Whatwouldnanado · 04/04/2022 17:38

You sound lovely and deserve so much better than this weasel of a man. Get your paperwork together, rally close friends and get rid.

Sunnytwobridges · 04/04/2022 17:39

He sounds disgusting. Any love you have for him should've been gone with that between your legs comment, and then add on all of his other shady behaviour, it would be a wrap for me.

I think he's lying, and I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already cheated if not he's well on his way he just needs the right opportunity.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 04/04/2022 17:41

OP, I'm sorry that this is happening.

Please take steps to get rid of this individual as soon as the new Divorce Laws become active.

SleepingStandingUp · 04/04/2022 17:42

I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else
So, he carries condoms in case he goes to fuck another another but doesn't want to impregnate her and ruin her life. Just yours. He doesn't need protection against your life because he doesn't care.

Norgie · 04/04/2022 17:43

Emergency condoms?
Spent an hour between your legs?
Ugh, what an absolute peach he sounds!!
Get some self respect and get rid.

Newmumatlast · 04/04/2022 17:44

@SunnySideUp30Plus

I have never done this before but I am in a world of confusion and I hope that someone can (perhaps) talk some sense into me. I am a mum of two young children (under 5) and I am married to a man that helps a lot when he is around but he works away now most of the time. I never thought I would be raising two young children alone and I feel sad for that but also very grateful post-pandemic that he has work, as we had a tough time for a while with us both being out of work. Anway, recently he came back from a trip that was a few months long, I had this aching feeling while he was away that something wasn't right, he felt a little distanced on the phone and I know there were some heavy nights out with colleagues (he never goes out at home, out of his choice and I think definitely letting off some steam) when he came home, I did the unthinkable to put my mind at rest...I went through his whatsapps. I saw a couple of questionable conversations with female colleagues, two conversations in fact. One with a woman which was a few days of banter and then a few drunk texts where It looked like she was testing the waters asking his intentions, and asking him to be more direct with her and he also asked what her intentions were with him. There were a few suggestive posts as to this is where I am staying but other than that not too much to write home about. I asked him about this and he pleaded with me nothing happened, though went into a defensive mode and told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone. (we spoke everyday via calls in the evenings, I love to message him but he barely replies as he is always busy or tired) He was being very harsh with me and I just begged him to give me some reassurance that everything was okay. He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive. He told me this woman and He talked the next day in person and he told her nothing would happen and that he was married. and apparently she didn't realise. Then I also found a 2nd conversation with another woman, there was a lot more 'banter' here and then eventually when the woman told him she was leaving the place of work and returning home he confessed he was sad because he wanted to spend more time with her. This woman was particularly attractive and this whole thing has sent me into a tailspin. Am I overreacting over work colleagues that are spending time together abroad and enjoying a shared experience etc is this type of chat bound to happen and am I being too sensitive? I think what gets me the most is that my husband responds in quite a cruel and fiery way, I would love him to take me in his arms and tell me that there is nobody else but me or that he loves me but instead, he says I am jealous, have issues and that isn't his fault. They are just colleagues, he is flirting maybe but nothing would ever come of it.

I also need to add, and this pains me because I have never mentioned this to anyone, I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

He definitely does not have a way with words and can be quite tough sometimes, but he is the father of my kids, people love him, I love him but I just don't know what to think now. How am I going to feel content with him working away now knowing what I have read. I am so confused, am I being unreasonable to be so down and upset with him. I feel sick, anxious and can't concentrate on anything since he has returned, please tell me your honest opinions.

I work full time too and take care of the children and I am just feeling so underappreciated that he feels it is okay to have a fun and care free time while he is away and I am struggling to make it through every day alone with my hands full.

I'm sorry " I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else"... wtf?!

He wouldnt ever have an emergency if he didnt sleep with anyone else.

This tells you all you need to know. And he shouldn't be telling another woman he is sad she is leaving as he wants to spend more time with her. That isnt at all innocent. Cheaters often deflect. I get that there are reasons people cheat and it is complex and sometimes it can be because of stuff involving the non cheater. However the key here is his response. He isnt understanding or trying to improve things with you. He is deflecting, making it all down to you being jealous and accepting no responsibility himself for how you feel - which is natural for you given his messages to these women - and is making you feel you've overreacted. Classic deflection out of guilt.

ManateeFair · 04/04/2022 17:49

@SunnySideUp30Plus

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply, share your opinions and giving me genuinely helpful advice. I have never spoken to anyone about the way he treats me as I guess I wanted to protect him and I didn't want out friends and family to think poorly of him. People love him and think he is such a great person/dad/husband. He is very attractive and always made me feel like I was punching. (even though I have also always had lots of male attention, I can be quite bubbly) I never saw myself as someone who was living in a toxic relationship, but I think I am realising now I have just been in serious denial. There have been many things over the years, which I won't go into detail here but I should have left him years ago, and in fact if I am honest I knew I shouldn't have married him but the wedding was well under-way and I thought I couldn't back out. But I believed Marriage was something that everyone has to work at, I just didn't realise I would have to work this hard. It seems that lately I have just been doing everything to get his attention and have him prioritise me. I just feel so sorry for our children, I don't want this for them. A few of you have asked about finances, I have always been the main breadwinner actually and helped him get a career and like many of you say, I am practically a single parent anyway. Gosh this is just so tough. I have given advice to friends over the years for the things they have gone through with their husbands but it is so hard to make that step for myself. Thank you again for all of your advice and support. It simply confirms everything I have been feeling and questioning about myself. In work I am very confident and successful, at home, it seems I am a doormat. This thread had been eye opening, truly.
I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this. Whatever you do, don’t blame yourself - you’ve tried really hard to make your marriage work. He is the one who has ruined things, not you. He doesn’t deserve someone as good as you.
WonderfulYou · 04/04/2022 17:51

I once found condoms in his work bag

Sorry to say he’s definitely cheated on you - why did you stay with him after finding the condoms?

What’s worse is that he’s trying to cheat - how desperate is he to be messaging these women and they’re just not interested that would give me the ick and I could touch him again.

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