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AIBU - I read messages on my husbands phone

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SunnySideUp30Plus · 04/04/2022 14:17

I have never done this before but I am in a world of confusion and I hope that someone can (perhaps) talk some sense into me. I am a mum of two young children (under 5) and I am married to a man that helps a lot when he is around but he works away now most of the time. I never thought I would be raising two young children alone and I feel sad for that but also very grateful post-pandemic that he has work, as we had a tough time for a while with us both being out of work. Anway, recently he came back from a trip that was a few months long, I had this aching feeling while he was away that something wasn't right, he felt a little distanced on the phone and I know there were some heavy nights out with colleagues (he never goes out at home, out of his choice and I think definitely letting off some steam) when he came home, I did the unthinkable to put my mind at rest...I went through his whatsapps. I saw a couple of questionable conversations with female colleagues, two conversations in fact. One with a woman which was a few days of banter and then a few drunk texts where It looked like she was testing the waters asking his intentions, and asking him to be more direct with her and he also asked what her intentions were with him. There were a few suggestive posts as to this is where I am staying but other than that not too much to write home about. I asked him about this and he pleaded with me nothing happened, though went into a defensive mode and told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone. (we spoke everyday via calls in the evenings, I love to message him but he barely replies as he is always busy or tired) He was being very harsh with me and I just begged him to give me some reassurance that everything was okay. He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive. He told me this woman and He talked the next day in person and he told her nothing would happen and that he was married. and apparently she didn't realise. Then I also found a 2nd conversation with another woman, there was a lot more 'banter' here and then eventually when the woman told him she was leaving the place of work and returning home he confessed he was sad because he wanted to spend more time with her. This woman was particularly attractive and this whole thing has sent me into a tailspin. Am I overreacting over work colleagues that are spending time together abroad and enjoying a shared experience etc is this type of chat bound to happen and am I being too sensitive? I think what gets me the most is that my husband responds in quite a cruel and fiery way, I would love him to take me in his arms and tell me that there is nobody else but me or that he loves me but instead, he says I am jealous, have issues and that isn't his fault. They are just colleagues, he is flirting maybe but nothing would ever come of it.

I also need to add, and this pains me because I have never mentioned this to anyone, I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

He definitely does not have a way with words and can be quite tough sometimes, but he is the father of my kids, people love him, I love him but I just don't know what to think now. How am I going to feel content with him working away now knowing what I have read. I am so confused, am I being unreasonable to be so down and upset with him. I feel sick, anxious and can't concentrate on anything since he has returned, please tell me your honest opinions.

I work full time too and take care of the children and I am just feeling so underappreciated that he feels it is okay to have a fun and care free time while he is away and I am struggling to make it through every day alone with my hands full.

OP posts:
jugglerofballs · 04/04/2022 16:19

Emergency condoms Hmm

PancakePenelope · 04/04/2022 16:20

He is a fucking atrocity.
I never ever say this to people because I know it's not straight forward, but in this case I would ABSOLUTELY LTB.

TracyMosby · 04/04/2022 16:22

At least you know he adds very little to your life and wouldnt be missed

Jackiebrambles · 04/04/2022 16:22

@KenAdams

He's cheating on you and gaslighting you.

This in particular "told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone".

When I don't answer my phone DH would just wait for me to call back not say oh well, I'd better start messaging other women then.

I know, what kind of ridiculousness is that!

Sorry op, he sounds awful. Time to make plans to end it.

tkwal · 04/04/2022 16:22

If you found condoms in his bag then he is already ..seriously considering a fling of some kind, whether it be opportunistic, with a sex worker or a tryst with someone he has been thinking about for a while. If he has already done the deed at least you can feel reassured that he used protection. He doesn't want to f€;$ up their life ?how considerate of him. What about your life ? Can you cope with him having casual sex as long as he comes back to you ? I don't know how you could resist staying bound to such a charmer, especially since he spends an occasional "hour between your legs" what an honour that must be. Reading his messages only confirmed something you must have already suspected. What you choose to do with the information you now have is up to you. I know I would expect to be treated with more respect.

ChinstrapBobblehat · 04/04/2022 16:23

What the ever-living fuck are ‘emergency condoms’?!! He’s literally told you straight to your face that he’s fully prepared to cheat on you given the opportunity, so why are you trying to find reasons to doubt that he actually has, even in the face of the additional phone evidence?

Apart from any of that though is the way he speaks to and treats you - do you really believe you are so unworthy of even the most basic kindness and respect from your partner?

I’m sorry for your pain, but pain can provide a path to anger, which in turn can be a catalyst for action. Please try and find your anger Flowers

Xpologog · 04/04/2022 16:24

He had condoms in his bag because he wanted to have sex with another person — I’m assuming a woman. There’s no emergency situation, it’s of his choosing.
He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need"
He’d be out the door for that comment alone. Crude doesn’t come close.
He doesn’t seem to have much respect for women in general, his wife in particular.
I’m afraid he’s a cheat, would you ever want to trust him again?

SamphiretheStickerist · 04/04/2022 16:28

"I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive.

I am not surprised. Between that and the 'emergency condoms' he is a Grade A Gobshite, isn't he? The utter crudeness of his comment to you would be more than enough to have me signing out of any relationship. That has no love in it, at all!

I hope you can find some real life support to get yourself ready to live a better life than the one he is subjecting you to, OP!

WizardOfAus · 04/04/2022 16:30

You realise he's cheating, right?

longwayoff · 04/04/2022 16:35

He's unfaithful and a liar. You'd better find a counsellor because he won't be changing any time soon and you need help to either accept what he is or to move away from him. Many men are like this, especially the ones who have those pesky penis accidents. I'm sorry you have a man like this.

SunnySideUp30Plus · 04/04/2022 16:38

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply, share your opinions and giving me genuinely helpful advice. I have never spoken to anyone about the way he treats me as I guess I wanted to protect him and I didn't want out friends and family to think poorly of him. People love him and think he is such a great person/dad/husband. He is very attractive and always made me feel like I was punching. (even though I have also always had lots of male attention, I can be quite bubbly) I never saw myself as someone who was living in a toxic relationship, but I think I am realising now I have just been in serious denial. There have been many things over the years, which I won't go into detail here but I should have left him years ago, and in fact if I am honest I knew I shouldn't have married him but the wedding was well under-way and I thought I couldn't back out. But I believed Marriage was something that everyone has to work at, I just didn't realise I would have to work this hard. It seems that lately I have just been doing everything to get his attention and have him prioritise me. I just feel so sorry for our children, I don't want this for them. A few of you have asked about finances, I have always been the main breadwinner actually and helped him get a career and like many of you say, I am practically a single parent anyway. Gosh this is just so tough. I have given advice to friends over the years for the things they have gone through with their husbands but it is so hard to make that step for myself. Thank you again for all of your advice and support. It simply confirms everything I have been feeling and questioning about myself. In work I am very confident and successful, at home, it seems I am a doormat. This thread had been eye opening, truly.

OP posts:
Jedsnewstar · 04/04/2022 16:39

Op I’m so sorry you have now had a hand grenade dropped into your life.

The condom incident alone is enough. I think this is the frog in the boiling water scenario. There are so many classic red flags. Defensive and gaslighting is what they all do.

BulletTrain · 04/04/2022 16:40

There's no such thing as a condom emergency! What an idiot!

Saltnsugar · 04/04/2022 16:40

Found condoms in my exes bag once… he reckoned he was going to use them to carry water… in Ibiza! 😂

Cherry35 · 04/04/2022 16:45

@MissNothing1991

That's not a huge invasion of privacy amongst a couple. My DH has the password to my phone and he leaves his unlocked all the time.

There shouldn't be any issue if you have nothing to hide.

Thumpkin · 04/04/2022 16:46

Absolutely NO-ONE purposely takes condoms on work trips in a bag purely to offer them to colleagues who want to shag someone but who don’t have a condom. The condoms are his, for him to use. The fact that he has you believing that he’s volunteering as some sort of family planning clinic for his colleagues rather than just cheating is absolutely unbelievable: you are so desperate to trust him he can make up any old pathetic lies. And then he gets angry with you for asking?! Jesus Christ. Bin this man.

ladydimitrescu · 04/04/2022 16:48

The condom comment alone is enough to fuck him off - emergency condoms Incase he shags someone else, and fucks his life up, but it's ok as long as he doesn't get them pregnant and fuck their life up to! Emergency condoms to the rescue!

Get him out. Now.

HangingRock25 · 04/04/2022 16:48

"I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need"

Wow, what a fucken germ he is! He is lower than maggot shit! How can you let him speak to you like that?

ladydimitrescu · 04/04/2022 16:49

He literally told you he plans on cheating on you when he explained the condoms.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/04/2022 16:50

Your posts are practically word for word the same as my cousin's story from "I knew I shouldn't marry him" to "dodgy messages" (although hers was a Val Day card NOT to her). Young children, working away, everything. Yes, he was cheating. Yes, she kicked him out. And Yes, she is so much happier without him and 20 years later actually blesses the OW for 'taking him off her hands'.

BlueOverYellow · 04/04/2022 16:51

He's disgusting.

Get yourself checked for STIs and get rid of him.

Pinzotti · 04/04/2022 16:52

Get your ducks in a row and leave him the POS

HellToTheNope · 04/04/2022 16:52

Go see a solicitor as soon as humanly possible and get this man out of your life. The sooner, the better, and for fuck's sake don't have sex with him. God knows what you'll catch.

RoundGlass · 04/04/2022 16:54

Glad your eyes have been opened OP

From what you say, he been abusive in some way for a long time.

waterlego · 04/04/2022 16:58

Emergency condoms so he doesn’t fuck up someone else’s life? How sweet. Except that you obviously don’t count as a ‘someone else’ in that equation. I would be gutted to discover that I was with someone who thought so little of me. Sorry OP Flowers

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