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In laws & Imposter Syndrome

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Scottishrugbyfan · 03/04/2022 21:34

I'm looking for some advice/guidance in how to handle this personally.. please be kind with comments.

I have four month old twins and have recently had the in laws over again. They live in Wales, we live in England. I'm really getting annoyed with them saying they don't see our babies enough and every time they come, they say they will look so different the next time they visit. I just can't have them over too regularly as it's so full on when they come, they come as four as my DH has an aunt and uncle who always come with them too. We don't have a big house so it's a bit stressful when they're over. We are always hospitable and cook food, make drinks etc. But it's so tiring and I dread them coming. They also have an OCD in cleaning so my husband and I spend a day cleaning before their arrival as his Dad has pointed things out that weren't dusted before 😑 They also take a million photos of the babies when I'm not there (I'm quite particular about photos and said no to them being on social media) and start sending them round to everyone they know. I get that they are proud grandparents but it's really OTT.

Even more so I get annoyed because they never acknowledge that I'm doing a great job as a Mum 😔 They're so wrapped up in spending every single second with the twins that his Dad doesn't even make an effort to ask how I'm doing, or basic conversation. My DH keeps saying that I have imposter syndrome and just shouldn't care what his parents think but it's hard when I'm so tired and craving some form of recognition. I just feel they don't really acknowledge me as the twins Mum which is horrible. My DH doesn't see it or agree this is the case, so we are arguing about it. They think my husband is the bee's knees, say he is an amazing dad, so hands on, a great cook etc. They never compliment me. I sometimes feel like they tolerate me.

My parents are totally the opposite and are always saying how well we are both doing with the twins (they are our first children) plus making sure I get breaks when they see me because it's hard work on my own when DH is working full time. My parents live closer to me, 30 mins away so see the twins more often as help out with babysitting. My family are good at turning up with a meal for us, are very low maintenance and will sort drinks themselves as they know we are busy. It's just different but I'm conscious that I'm biased because they are my family.

I even sent a text this evening as the in laws left ours after a weekend here, saying that they experienced what it is like with me looking after the twins and it's not easy. But MIL didn't even respond to it and said they would let us know when they arrived home.

Late into my pregnancy they also discussed with DH about all four of them moving to England to live on our estate (!) To be closer to us... I was so stressed with the thought of it that I said no to DH. I just don't want them on my doorstep 24/7. They wanted to look after the babies full time but they are older, they don't have the energy for it and we also want our twins to be in nursery.

Also, when I delivered the babies I had post partum eclapmsia (and pre eclampsia, it wasn't an easy birth experience) and they kept on at my DH saying he should take the babies out of the hospital and they would move into the house to look after them whilst I recovered. We had huge arguments about this. The babies were right where they should be, with me. They just wanted to take over and to see the babies. I had asked them to hold off as I didn't want visitors until I was home and ready. I wanted us to be in our family bubble until we were settled. Of

It makes me want to avoid them coming to our house as it just causes me to feel worse each time. They're due back in May but I guarantee they will schedule another visit sooner. They also do it via my husband but don't ask me which I find so frustrating...I should be a part of any plans for visits to our home.

AIBU? What shall I do about the imposter syndrome? Should I see someone about it, I don't know how to get it out of my head? The more time goes on, the worse it gets. It is causing issues for my relationship which is awful.

OP posts:
HoppingPavlova · 04/04/2022 09:12

I even sent a text this evening as the in laws left ours after a weekend here, saying that they experienced what it is like with me looking after the twins and it's not easy.

I don’t understand the point of this, it seems really odd.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 04/04/2022 09:17

You tell them very firmly that only two people are welcome at any one time and DO NOT clean the house before they come. If they comment on it just shrug. It's your home not a hotel.
That's what I would do. I won't tolerate this kind of rudeness in my home. Like it or lump it basically.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 04/04/2022 09:23

When they visit you don't have to sit in the house all the time. Take the dc to visit friends.. Dh can entertain them.
My ils used to visit a full day a week. If there was an activity available I took the dc. Dh knew hosting them wasn't my job.

twinsetandpearl · 04/04/2022 09:30

I've got baby twins so I get it. It is harder than having one baby but it rarely gets acknowledged. But my parents have never said what a good job I'm doing and neither has PIL for that matter. So your maybe being unreasonable in that respect to expect praise - almost sounds like you are fishing for compliments?

Have to say though it also sounds like you've made a rod for your own back here....if your FIL makes comments about cleanliness in the home politely direct him in the location of a duster or better yet say oh well I'm going to pop out for an hour or two - you can have the babies and we'll see how much you get done whilst I'm gone 🤔 do not clean! I'm not sure why you though a passive aggressive text to your PIL was a good idea?
You also need to be firmer with your DH regarding boundaries
You need to let the photo thing go too

phishy · 04/04/2022 09:43

@twinsetandpearl

I've got baby twins so I get it. It is harder than having one baby but it rarely gets acknowledged. But my parents have never said what a good job I'm doing and neither has PIL for that matter. So your maybe being unreasonable in that respect to expect praise - almost sounds like you are fishing for compliments?

Have to say though it also sounds like you've made a rod for your own back here....if your FIL makes comments about cleanliness in the home politely direct him in the location of a duster or better yet say oh well I'm going to pop out for an hour or two - you can have the babies and we'll see how much you get done whilst I'm gone 🤔 do not clean! I'm not sure why you though a passive aggressive text to your PIL was a good idea?
You also need to be firmer with your DH regarding boundaries
You need to let the photo thing go too

They keep going on about how amazing their son is. How could that not annoy OP?
Chakraleaf · 04/04/2022 09:45

@HoppingPavlova

I even sent a text this evening as the in laws left ours after a weekend here, saying that they experienced what it is like with me looking after the twins and it's not easy.

I don’t understand the point of this, it seems really odd.

No, I don't see the point.
tara66 · 04/04/2022 10:00

Not read all PP but just ask them to stay in an hotel or BB because it is too much for them to expect to stay with you. They make get the message with a short sharp shock.

jay55 · 04/04/2022 10:29

Only a complete cunt would comment on the housekeeping standards of parents with twin babies.

It's really not you.

billy1966 · 04/04/2022 10:31

OP,
They sound awful and your husband is no better with his cheap armchair diagnosis of.

The cheek.

Them arranging to be in your home without contacting you is the height of disrespect from them and your husband.

In your place, go to your parents with the babies the next time you are told they are arriving.
Say nothing beforehand, just pack up and be gone.
Tell your husband this will be what is happening from now on.

I mean this very kindly, but your husband is a Class A arsehole and I would not expect your marriage to last.

If you were my daughter, your bags would be packed and you would be with me.

I would not tolerate his treatment of you or his awful family.

Removing the babies from the hospital and their mother?

What a moron your husband is.

Tell your family and friends how things are.

A good husband and father does not behave like this.

You sound like an amazing mother.

As for your inlaws?

Stop caring what these awful people think.

Suggest to your hus and he moves home to mummy, he's no use to you with his cheap armchair diagnosis.🙄.

I feel so sorry for you, and furious.Flowers

billy1966 · 04/04/2022 10:34

As for the cleaning remarks.
So unbelievably.

They simply would NEVER stay again.

Your husband's priorities are not you and your health.

You would be far better home with your parents.

Please return to work.

Don't be dependent on such a waster.

Thehop · 04/04/2022 10:39

@WoolyMammoth55

Hi OP, I'm glad you posted because what you are describing is not ok, but it's hard for you to see this without an outside perspective. So it's good that that's what you're getting here.

Is your DH a psychologist or mental health professional? I'm guessing not, because his "diagnosis" that you have impostor syndrome is very incorrect.

You are a busy mum or young twins with a recent, traumatic birth experience and hospital stay. During this your IL's offered, inappropriately, to remove your babies from your care. This was a bad-taste, wildly inappropriate offer and your DH should have shut it down and not even mentioned it to you. He's in the wrong that he even bothered you with his parent's stupid idea.

It's also wrong that they are coming, as a group of 4, into your home without consulting you and then making critical comments about the dusting which force you to do an extra deep-clean for them. This is all wrong - you're a new mum, you need none of this hassle. Again, your DH is in the wrong here for not shutting this down. He should be having a word with them about adjusting their expectations about housekeeping given that you have two tiny babies to care for. If they don't like your regular levels of cleanliness, they can simply stay away.

I had a very slightly comparable scenario, in that my MIL (who adores DH as he's her only child) was rude to me towards the end of my pregnancy. She was feeling insecure, about not being "the mum" anymore, etc, but she really crossed a line. My DH asked her to leave. She then called him to complain about me and what had happened, and he simply said "this is my wife, you can't speak to her rudely and expect to be in our lives. It's not acceptable. I love you but I won't put up with it." (Or some version of that). And the problem was solved.

So please believe me: You are not the problem. You have no syndrome.

You simply have badly behaved/stupid in-laws, and a DH who isn't sticking up for you.

He needs to get his head straight, have a clear discussion with you where you work out your boundaries (e.g. pay for a cleaner before they come; don't host them, they stay at a hotel; if they stay then it's just them, no aunty and uncle; they have to buy you flowers and say thank you to you for giving them grandchildren, etc!) and then he is responsible for telling IL's about the new rules, and for making them stick to them!

All you need to do is look after your babies, be happy and not worry about these silly, silly people.

Best of luck with it. You're doing amazing! Flowers

Wonderful post.
Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 15:42

@DowntonCrabby

Your husband needs to massively step up here and impose the boundaries you feel are necessary to your MH and parenting.

Being keen GP is one thing but they do sound awful, criticising and trying to barrel in after the birth to take over.

Thank you for replying and for your advice, I am trying to share my perspective with my DH. Thankfully they didn't take over when I was in hospital, it's just hard not to always be sensitive about them having even suggested that but I know I need to move on otherwise it'll always get to me.
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Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 15:44

@DancingBarefootOnIce

I wish your in-laws could see the issues they’re causing for you and themselves. Who goes to a house with babies and criticises the cleaning? How can they not see that’s going to cause you not to want to see them?

I have a baby so I’m in awe of mums like you who have two to look after. I’m sure you’re doing a great job!

@DancingBarefootOnIce thank you so much for your kind words 💕 I really appreciate it. I know, my DH did tell his Mum to ask his Dad not to make comments like that when he comes over as we are full on with the babies. MIL has OCD in cleaning so his Dad is used to their house being spotless. They are retired though and have plenty of time to focus on cleaning x
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Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 15:46

[quote ImustLearn2Cook]@Scottishrugbyfan Flowers You are not the problem. They are. Talk about this with your family and get some backup support.

Next time your in-laws come to stay invite your family over so they can support you and show these people exactly how you should be treated: with love, respect and support.[/quote]
@imustlearn2Cook thank you so much for your reply and being so kind. I'll definitely do that x

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Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 15:48

Fuck them if they’re that concerned they could always move to England to be closer.

Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 16:00

@HoppingPavlova

I even sent a text this evening as the in laws left ours after a weekend here, saying that they experienced what it is like with me looking after the twins and it's not easy.

I don’t understand the point of this, it seems really odd.

@HoppingPavlova in hindsight I shouldn't have sent it. I was just feeling down that MIL never says anything about how well I'm doing, it's always about DH and how amazing a Dad he is. I shouldn't have sent it, I see that from the replies here. I shouldn't care.
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Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 16:02

@Movingonup22

They sound too much but cripes did you really send you MIL a text saying that?

I think that is def not the way too handle it!

Decide to give no shits about their views of you - be polite and put in place boundaries in terms of how much they can stay.

@Movingonup22 I know, in hindsight I should have sent it 😔
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Nanny0gg · 04/04/2022 16:07

@Eyedropeyeflop

Fuck them if they’re that concerned they could always move to England to be closer.
They suggested it! And it would make things a whole lot worse for the OP!!
Movingonup22 · 04/04/2022 16:07

Meh don’t worry about it to be honest - they’re idiots so who cares!

Ozanj · 04/04/2022 16:07

You need to understand that the in laws don’t care about you. They only care about their gc and son. So, next time they come down, just don’t be there. Go to your Mum’s and let your DH manage the 4 guests and the babies. I bet you £100 the visits will stop after that.

Nanny0gg · 04/04/2022 16:08

Scottishrugbyfan

Does your DH take time off every time they come? That can't leave much holiday, surely?

I don't normally recommend showing a partner a thread but this one might be one they should see

Nanny0gg · 04/04/2022 16:09

@Ozanj

You need to understand that the in laws don’t care about you. They only care about their gc and son. So, next time they come down, just don’t be there. Go to your Mum’s and let your DH manage the 4 guests and the babies. I bet you £100 the visits will stop after that.
Not if they see the babies it won't...
Nanny0gg · 04/04/2022 16:09

@Movingonup22

Meh don’t worry about it to be honest - they’re idiots so who cares!
Because it's making the OP unhappy and stressed?
Scottishrugbyfan · 04/04/2022 16:13

Yes, @Nanny0gg is right. They wanted to move to England and booked viewings on our estate.. I was so stressed when they suggested it in the late stages of my pregnancy.

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DisforDarkChocolate · 04/04/2022 16:16

You don't need to tackle and imposter syndrome. You need your husband to step up and tackle is awful parents. Also, 4 guests is bloody ridiculous when you have young twins. Hotel only from now on.