Are we taking bets yet on when mass civil unrest will begin re. Cost of living?

[UsernameInTheTown]

Having frozen my backside off these past two days as I'm terrified to have the heating on longer than an hour a day, I'm thinking that this will be utterly intolerable come next Winter. Will there be mass civil unrest and the guillotine rolled out while the affluent are targeted by the desperate and those with nothing left to loose?

@AntarcticOwl

Riots, Labour or socialist government aren't going to deflate rising costs or reduce national debts

They might ensure the wealthiest bear the brunt, though.

@Willyoujustbequiet I agree that the murmurings seem be intensifying and we will have no choice but to act.
The rich flaunting their wealth, ie. The Royal family (not Queenie, she's a frugal old bird), your Beckhams et Al, constantly in the news rubbing people's noses in it, while the poor and middle classes sink further and further beneath the waterline.

Honestly I'd be more than up for mass civil disobedience rather than full on unrest

I would also be up for a spot of civil disobedience, how could the populace really piss them off without doing anything illegal ? Other than not voting for them ?

Tbh IMO the cost of living ie heating and food inflation etc is nothing compared to cost of housing or rent for those who didn’t get on the property ladder at the right time.

If people didn’t have to spend so much on housing they would have more for food and heating.

Others got rich off property more than they counld ever earn. Lots of people hardly work etc but expect to live a affluent lifestyle because they are asset rich.

Wages are too low in some sectors admittedly and wages have stagnated

People suddenly complaining about cost of fuel but said nothing about people being shafted by ridiculous house price and rent inflation.

Doubt there will be civil unrest unless their is mass unemployment

@PurpleFlower1983

The energy companies need to be held to account. Their profits have been huge over the last few years, the should take the hit now.

I agree, as do the politicians who clearly have a huge financial interest in them

There has been too much division in society for us to have a true uprising.

We've been divided on every level - race, sex, sexual preference, religion, gender identity, wealth, education, political identity, health, vaccination status etc. We're too disjointed and too angry with each other to ever unite for any kind meaningful action.

I will never forget 2019 a colleague of mine who was suffering badly financially husband out of work due to chronic back pain. No sick pay other than stat so household income less than halved and using food banks and saying how terrible it was as they worked hard their whole lives and it wasn’t their fault (ie we are not like people on benefits GOD FORBID) and when I gave a rather dramatic speech about why I felt it was so important to vote out the tories and how many people were suffering just like them she went “nah I’m voting Boris to get brexit done”
As was her democratic right I just died a little inside.

I don't think civil unrest will happen but I wonder if there will be another type of protest. Maybe refusing to pay certain bills or something along those lines.

My daughter is at university and obviously they are protesting almost on a weekly basis it’s a bit of a hobby for them. However given that she’s had two black eyes of security guards and got shoved into a wall by a police officer I’m becoming more and more opposed to her being involved unfortunately, surely there must be a better way surely anonymous can just shut down aeons website or something.

@Puddinandpie

It makes me utterly sick that so many idiots lent tories their vote last election and this Is what we have to put up with now because of it! Those idiots should be ashamed of themselves, the tories are not a party for the working class, they are totally out of touch with any human being that doesn't have money to roll around in! And as for idiots also saying that they can't possibly vote for Labour because of gender crap has clearly lost the plot and also clearly doesn't have a worry in the world because no matter how much you dont like certain answers being given by keir starmer/Labour Party etc you hold your nose and vote for what really makes a difference to your cost of living, your children's lives and the cost of your income, not rich arsholes who couldn't give a shit whether you and your children freeze or starve to death! Unfortunately there won't be riots people clearly like being fucked over by tory bastards!

Perfectly summed up. The Tories have been slowly stealing, killing and ripping apart the UK but people keep voting for them.

It’s like they enjoy seeing living standards crumble and an economy in ruins. Stop voting for them.

@Libertaire

This is Britain. We don’t do ‘mass civil unrest’. We leave that sort of thing to the French, who are actually prepared to stand up to their rulers, rather than just complaining about them. We just moan about how badly the country is run, then go out and re-elect the Tories.

We did when they tried to impose poll tax on us all

@UnderTheMoonlightWeDanced

I will never forget 2019 a colleague of mine who was suffering badly financially husband out of work due to chronic back pain. No sick pay other than stat so household income less than halved and using food banks and saying how terrible it was as they worked hard their whole lives and it wasn’t their fault (ie we are not like people on benefits GOD FORBID) and when I gave a rather dramatic speech about why I felt it was so important to vote out the tories and how many people were suffering just like them she went “nah I’m voting Boris to get brexit done” As was her democratic right I just died a little inside.

The biggest issue is that no one realises how little benefits you get until you become ill. Most countries make you take out compulsory insurance so that if you do become ill you get a decent amount.

Everyone who works should have to pay towards a decent insurance scheme. If everyone had to do it it wouldn't cost very much at all.

Aye, the self-proclaimed 'left wing' mumsnet, which not only is remarkably illiberal, socially conservative, reactionary, and snooty, but contains an absurd number of self-confessed Tory voters for a place that invariably proclaims itself to be a hotbed of cuddly, lefty ideals.

I know, it's so weird. It's almost like all these different usernames belong to different people, the way they disagree.

And how much do Labour really care I wonder?

windfall taxes have been suggested and to stop the poor bearing the brunt unfairly

we are all well aware of the wastefulness of billions the tories are happy to give away

Bring it on…

@flopseyR72

Tbh IMO the cost of living ie heating and food inflation etc is nothing compared to cost of housing or rent for those who didn’t get on the property ladder at the right time.

If people didn’t have to spend so much on housing they would have more for food and heating.

Others got rich off property more than they counld ever earn. Lots of people hardly work etc but expect to live a affluent lifestyle because they are asset rich.

Wages are too low in some sectors admittedly and wages have stagnated

People suddenly complaining about cost of fuel but said nothing about people being shafted by ridiculous house price and rent inflation.

Doubt there will be civil unrest unless their is mass unemployment

Totally agree. Luckily we are on the property ladder but need a bigger place after having a baby, our salaries have increased 3% in 5 years, houses have increased at least 20%!, Most places are unaffordable especially when you add in increased bills. It's depressing. We're not looking for a palace with a pool just an extra room!

As a child, I opened the door to a Canvasser who handed me a long sticker and said ''Put this in your window''.
I did.
When parents came home, there was a bellow of fury and dad flew up the stairs and tore down the poster as if it was a on fire.
It was for a Tory Counsellor.

Dad said ''What the hell are you doing!!''
In a day or so's time, a red poster appeared in their window.

Lib Dems hold that area now, unlikely Labour ever will.

Never voted Tory, never will.

Doubt there will be civil unrest unless their is mass unemployment

Well if people can't afford heating, hot water and lighting etc , then they won't be spending elsewhere, the businesses where they used to spend that 'spare' income will suffer, especially as they will have to increase their prices because of the energy/fuel increases, so may have to lay off staff, or close permanently. Add in interest rate rises and inflation and some people might call that a Recession ?

I find it bizarre that people would consider rioting over energy costs after the last 3 years. The government isn't responsible for those rises- they are caused by brexit, covid and the war.

The government is responsible for:

• Squandering 10s of billions which could have offset inflation with strategic tax cuts or higher wages.
• 10,000 preventable deaths in care homes.
• Partying while we couldn't attend funerals or see parents.
• Running schools and the NHS into the ground.

I'd riot over that stuff if I thought it would work.

So this week the government decided not to make a one off tax to oil companies

And pritty Patel takes a donation from an oil company….

Why do you think the OPEC cartel will be swayed by riots in the UK?

Should we forget Russia''s action in Ukraine so they can continue to provide cheap fertiliser?

I genuinely can't see people in this country rioting. Not en masse. I just don't know what it'll actually take. Loads of people will still vote fucking Conservative too.

The government isn't responsible for those rises

So how come the French government put a price cap on their utility companies if 4%? Whilst our government didnt

Is this the same government that gave everyone on uc extra throughout the pandemic, paid most people’s wages throughtout the pandemic , made generous payments to many businesses, some of which earned more during the pandemic than they did when they were working)and yes I was one of them) which we all accepted with open arms, short memories people and yes my heating is off and I,m sat here with a blanket and a hot water bottle. We should think about things in the long term, if you have no money you have to cut costs as does the government.