Page 7 | Will Smith/Chris Rock Oscars - where do you stand?

Jaggerdagger · 2022-03-28T06:28:13+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60898250]] I'm a bit on the fence at the moment but shocked from watching this - wondered what others think? YABU Will Smith had every right to wallop Chris. His wife was clearly deeply insulted. He deserved it. YANBU Chris was just reading from a script and didn't deserve such a public assault.

SirChenjins · 28/03/2022 08:47

Absolutely awful behaviour on the part of Will Smith. A stupid joke that was about as funny as a cup of cold sick, but there were plenty of other more dignified ways to deal with it that didn’t make him look like an aggressive thug with an anger problem. I’d have been mortified by both men if I was Jada. Did she want/need her husband’s violent input?

Prescottdanni123 · 28/03/2022 08:48

Punching someone like that is wrong but...I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing. There would be a lot of AIBUs the next morning, I think.

SoupDragon · 28/03/2022 08:50

Chris Rock is a complete cunt to mock someone's medical condition but Will Smith shouldn't have resorted to violence. I agree with a PP that walking out would have been better.

AskingforaBaskin · 28/03/2022 08:51

@Jaggerdagger

Giving the stupidy of both parties, the only real victim/innocent pawn in all of this is Jada. She looked bloody amazing too.

I don't think many do feel sympathy for her. I certainly don't. I only see her ever recovering her reputation after what she did.

And the fact Will went to bat for her like this just solidifies peoples perception of how desperate he is for her. It's so sad. She can not be worth this.

Sharrowgirl · 28/03/2022 08:51

Can’t believe how many people are defending Will Smith. I don’t care what Chris Rock said, you can’t just go round slapping people when you lose your temper. If you did that at work, you’d get fired. If your child did it at school, they’d be excluded.

I though Will Smith’s evident rage and aggression when he was shouting at him afterwards was equally disturbing. I’d be scared of a man with a temper like that.

notinherethen · 28/03/2022 08:51

It would have been a much more powerful statement if WS & JP had got up and walked out

Totally disagree. What would have happened is that jokes would have been made about them by CR after they left, and they would have been portrayed as precious, self-important and unable to take a joke.

GahAndTheBear · 28/03/2022 08:52

@Prescottdanni123

Punching someone like that is wrong but...I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing. There would be a lot of AIBUs the next morning, I think.

It’s not 1822. Why do they feel the need to have a big strong man to defend his own reputation his wife.

NoSquirrels · 28/03/2022 08:52

@Prescottdanni123

Punching someone like that is wrong but...I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing. There would be a lot of AIBUs the next morning, I think.

I’d be outraged if my husband got up and punched a performer on stage, and I wouldn’t feel grateful he “hadn’t stayed Sat on his arse” I’d be absolutely fucking livid. With him, not the performer.

neverlyeverly · 28/03/2022 08:53

YABU. The 'joke' wasn't funny, but the response was ridiculous. Grown men should be able to control themselves without need for violence or yelling.

If anyone needed to respond it was Jada, who could have made a statement afterwards that she found what CR said upsetting and offensive, then no doubt CR would have apologised and nobody's success would have been overshadowed during the ceremony by WS's behaviour.

AskingforaBaskin · 28/03/2022 08:53

@Prescottdanni123

Punching someone like that is wrong but...I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing. There would be a lot of AIBUs the next morning, I think.

Like he stayed quiet while she humiliated him on her show? Don't think she has much of a leg to stand on there.

TheDoveFromAboveCooCoo · 28/03/2022 08:53

It's not ok. Resorting to physical violence is never ok in any situation unless you are being physically assaulted yourself.

I think this will have a massive impact on his career.

Also if this is how he behaves knowing it's being broadcast across the world then how the fuck does he behave behind closed doors??

babywalker56 · 28/03/2022 08:54

@Prescottdanni123

Punching someone like that is wrong but...I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing. There would be a lot of AIBUs the next morning, I think.

Literally lol I think it’s better he did something then nothing

NoSquirrels · 28/03/2022 08:54

@notinherethen

It would have been a much more powerful statement if WS & JP had got up and walked out

Totally disagree. What would have happened is that jokes would have been made about them by CR after they left, and they would have been portrayed as precious, self-important and unable to take a joke.

It’s scripted.

And if CR had made those jokes, they wouldn’t have reflected well on him and there would have inevitably been a public apology from CR.

BloodyloveGeorge · 28/03/2022 08:54

‘ I think that a lot of women would be outraged if they were humiliated like that on international television and their husband stayed sat on his arse, doing nothing.’

Yeah, shame duelling’s been outlawed…
Or - given that we don’t live in the 1600s how about the grown woman who had a nasty comment directed at her on live tv is allowed to speak up for herself and use her huge platform and fame to call CR out for the bully he is?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 28/03/2022 08:54

@catless

It looked fake to me.

I agree. I saw the clip and thought it was a badly executed 'wrestling' slap, WS appeared to be trying not to laugh as he walked back to his seat.

If it is real, he should have been removed. It was a shit joke but that doesn't give anyone the right to assault someone.

BurntEnds · 28/03/2022 08:55

The bully makes them and if you try to respond to it the taunting reply is ' I was only joking, can't you take a joke?' Any response from her would have made her look a 'humourless cow'. I absolutely believe this is what the reaction would have been if Jada had walked out or anything like that. That's the sort of sick world we live in. Will goes and "stands up for his wife" and no one tells him, it was only a joke etc.

babywalker56 · 28/03/2022 08:56

@Sharrowgirl

Can’t believe how many people are defending Will Smith. I don’t care what Chris Rock said, you can’t just go round slapping people when you lose your temper. If you did that at work, you’d get fired. If your child did it at school, they’d be excluded.

I though Will Smith’s evident rage and aggression when he was shouting at him afterwards was equally disturbing. I’d be scared of a man with a temper like that.

@Sharrowgirl Disturbing? He shouted (didn’t have a mic) to Chris Rock to keep his wife’s name out of his mouth. What’s disturbing about that and how does that show a temper? I see nothing wrong. He clearly doesn’t play when it comes to his wife

KnowingMeKnowingYouAhaaaa · 28/03/2022 08:56

He should have been escorted out the door, I have no idea why he was allowed to stay, collect his award and then be photographed afterwards celebrating. You can't do that. It's as if it was acceptable, no one said anything.

It did make me laugh that will smith (after laughing himself at first I might add) was shouting "get my wife's name out your mouth" when they have an open marriage 🤣 sure she's been in plenty of people's mouths lol. The whole thing was out of order. Will smith should have been shown the door and not been allowed to collect the award though.

GahAndTheBear · 28/03/2022 08:57

@notinherethen

I have watched Jada’s Red Table Talk show. She openly discusses her condition and She advocates for womens right and female empowerment. I wouldn’t have though that she would want or need Will storming stages to defend her ‘honour’, unless of course that version of her is a lie

But there was nothing in that moment she could have done to defend herself, was there? Because that is the thing with 'jokes' like that.
The bully makes them and if you try to respond to it the taunting reply is ' I was only joking, can't you take a joke?' Any response from her would have made her look a 'humourless cow'.

I do think if you are in a couple you have each other's backs. If someone insults one of you, they have insulted both of you. You don't leave the other to deal with it alone. That's the whole point of being a couple, you don't have to go through life alone.

She didn’t need to do anything in the moment. She could sit there and the bring it up in every interview following the show. She could have played a PR blinder where he came out looking awful.

My husband and I are separate people. If someone insults him, they insulted him. I’m not going to fly into a narcissistic rage at having my my proxy insulted.

Having your partner’s back is about supporting them in how they feel and the actions they choose to take. It’s not making it about yourself and resorting to violence.

babywalker56 · 28/03/2022 08:57

People that are saying why couldn’t she stand up for herself. What if she wanted her man to handle the situation? Like I said, there’s previous history of Chris Rock talking shit about them in their absence at the last Oscars. Who knows what was discussed between the two

notinherethen · 28/03/2022 08:58

It’s scripted. And if CR had made those jokes, they wouldn’t have reflected well on him and there would have inevitably been a public apology from CR

No, CR would have had to react to it, just like he had to react to it and get the audience back to laughing after WS hit him and then yelled at him. The job as compere is to keep the show moving along and people laughing, and that means having to do it on the fly when things go off-piste. There's no doubt the jokes would have been flying from CR about WS and Jada if they had walked off - CR job would have been the relieve the tension by getting people laughing again, just as he did after being hit and yelled at.

HoveringDonkeyofKnock · 28/03/2022 08:58

Unless it’s self defence, violence is never acceptable.
Will Smith even laughed about it at the end of his ‘apology’. He should have been removed.

GahAndTheBear · 28/03/2022 08:59

What if she wanted her man to handle the situation?

Jesus wept.

‘Her man’.

BloodyloveGeorge · 28/03/2022 09:00

Here’s what’s going to happen - WS is going to continue to apologise to the academy and other nominees for losing his temper but not to CR,
Jada is going to publicly defend him by saying how violence is bad BUT her big strong husband knows how traumatic her her loss has been for her, and their PR people are going to make them donate to some charity to do with violence, or a project or charity about getting kids off the streets and away from violence etc
And WSs win will forever be overshadowed by violence, and we’ll watch that clip over and over for years in complication shows.
In the meantime - because of some male violence we’ll forget about what a great Oscar’s it was for women …
Jane Campion only the 3rd woman to win best director, Sian Heder wins best film for a movie featuring deaf actors, Ariana deBose is the first gay woman of colour to win as Oscar…
Fucking men and their fucking pointless violence.

Sharrowgirl · 28/03/2022 09:01

@babywalker56 he was so just angry in that moment. Barely suppressed rage.