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How do seemingly minor celebs afford lavish lifestyles?

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likemindedarseholes · 27/03/2022 23:24

Reading a Heat magazine and James (formally of Busted) mentioned living in the Hollywood hills. Also these 'Cribs' style programmes where someone who had one hit or was in one reality show has a great looking house... what's the secret?
Are they rented houses? Did James from Busted invest well? And how do people like Katie Price spend it all, she must have made loads with all the books, perfumes, tv shows? How??

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LethargeMarg · 28/03/2022 11:57

Yes Cathy Dennis I think wrote 'can't get you out of my head' for kylie and 'toxic'for Britney and 'I kisse a girl' for Katy Perry
she also was fairly successful as a solo artist in the states in the early 90s as well as the uk .she must be absolutely loaded !!

LethargeMarg · 28/03/2022 11:58

Betty boo is another early 90s fairly forgettable pop star who has written loads of well known big selling hits

GnomeDePlume · 28/03/2022 12:00

I remember reading an interesting article about how musicians could be essentially conned out of money through small tricks like riders in performance contracts.

A musician said they had been encouraged by their management to ask for ridiculous things like bowls full of blue smarties and fabulously expensive vodka for their dressing room. Fortunately they got sight of the bill and quickly toned it down to just bottled water.

Interestingly, one artist has a rider that their child' hair should be freshly braided while the artist is performing. Not because he has a thing about braiding but because it means he then knows that the venue has read the contract and he knows his child has been looked after.

GnomeDePlume · 28/03/2022 12:00

Sorry, slightly off topic!

PermanentlyTired03 · 28/03/2022 12:04

A lot of TOWIE cast have very wealthy parents and still mooch off them. A few of them basically had there lives funded by their parents in their 20s! Enough insta followers and you'll get all sorts of free stuff to promote, it's why they could all go abroad in lockdowns for 'business'. Photo in Dubai in "x" bikini at "x" hotel 🤑🤑
Charlotte church is one who I'm sure spent all her money. Got used to a very high standard of living and then suddenly wasn't earning so ended up spending most of it.

Rosehugger · 28/03/2022 12:12

Betty Boo was amazing. Not easily forgotten by me!

TillyTopper · 28/03/2022 12:14

James tells you all the stuff he's done - perhaps he's just been careful with the money he has earned and made the most of it.

Parker231 · 28/03/2022 12:15

@DadOnIce

The Oxo actress said she used to do those ads year after year because one advert, basically a few days' work a year, paid her as much as a commitment to nine or ten months' filming of a BBC or ITV drama series.
Same with Maureen Lipman and the BT adverts
GnomeDePlume · 28/03/2022 12:19

One modest star named various home improvements after the ad which had paid for them!

Zilla1 · 28/03/2022 12:19

Several artists back in the day got exploited by management, such as by the gross/net management trick. Management on a % of the gross. Artists got the net 'profits'. Incentives are different. Artists could have had a smaller venue tour where the venues would be full and the gigs would be profitable as revenue exceeded costs. Management upgraded to Arena/Stadia which would have a larger absolute audience and merchandise sales and hence turnover so management got a higher gross turnover on which to base their %. Venues were not sufficiently full to cover the venue and tour costs hence each gig would be loss-making. Artists told they were 'stars' and needed to have an arena/stadium tour. Eventually artist ran out of money then couldn't cover their bills. Management move on to next big thing.

The 'blue' smarties used to be a deliberate technique when venues were slap-dash about electrics and safety back in the 60s/70s and the artists used it as a short-hand - if a venue read the rider and complied then they were more likely no to electrocute a performer or drop a spot on their head. If other coloured smarties then they would double check the electrics, rigging and so on.

CambsAlways · 28/03/2022 12:23

Just googled porta parties ! Can’t believe what I’ve read! And people actually willing to do this for several grand! Seriously sick stuff

MingeofDeath · 28/03/2022 12:29

Van Halen used the blue M&Ms thing for the resons Zilla has said.

HallucinatingHilda · 28/03/2022 12:30

Um, Cheney Hawkes said himself only last month that he was very lucky that his wife has a huge amount of money.

So, that's one thing that can helpGrin

Dixiechickonhols · 28/03/2022 12:33

Being able to buy a property from your 15 mins of fame must be a massive help. So mortgage free. Instagram Freebies that provide nice days out or holidays, occasionally do a hello type fluff article. Decent child maintenance if father of baby was a footballer or businessman. I know someone who was financial advisor for Imogen Thomas (90s lads mags model/big brother/affair Ryan Giggs) and she was doing nicely on back of her 15 mins.

Doboopedoo · 28/03/2022 12:35

Not a minor celeb but Duff McKagan of Guns n Roses book is worth a read. Almost killed himself through serious alcohol abuse, turned it round to get financially educated and set up a company to advise up and coming bands so they didn’t get ripped off like GnR did.
Also invested in up and coming companies from his hometown of Seattle. Amazon and Starbucks….

BulletTrain · 28/03/2022 12:38

I follow James's girlfriend (she's fascinatingly awful) on Instagram and I'm pretty sure he has a house in Cornwall plus the LA place.

Fluffycloudland77 · 28/03/2022 12:39

They also get things like cars very cheap. Dh is motor trade and footballers et al get £100k cars for £400 a month, no deposit just pose for a photo with a girl from Corporate when you pick it up for the company fb/insta page and off you go. It's actors, celebs etc who get them too. They've had minor celebs from Geordie shore back in the day too come down to view cars.

We'd all have cars like that for £400 a month wouldnt we? a normal customer would pay £5-10k deposit and £1000 a month at least and have to keep it for best part of 3 years. The VIP will have it for a year and hand it back, usually trashed with illegal tints on the windows.

Bellex · 28/03/2022 12:39

@likemindedarseholes

Help me out with James from Busted then. Not mega famous, I don't think they were the songwriters. Hollywood hills is pretty exclusive, if selling sunset is to be believed.
Pretty sure it’s producer and song writer as well.

He’ll also get some money in royalties, from that recent tour and they also had quite a lot of merchandise over the years

Torunette · 28/03/2022 12:39

The way to make big money in the cultural field is through IP. That's essentially what song writing, novel writing, art production etc is.

JKR will probably have made more money through selling the rights to Harry Potter than she will have made through the actual selling of the books themselves.

I knew a music producer in the mid noughties in a very niche field. He lived off just churning out hard techno, one after another. I also knew someone fairly famous in the field who made millions out of selling one particular tune to a company, and also getting publishing on every time the tune was played across global territories.

In the late nineties, it used to be, for example, that the BBC paid about £90 in publishing every time they played a song not on their A-playlist on the radio. It was more for A-playlist. I remember when I heard that; it made me realise just how much of license payers' money the BBC must have paid to artists like Madonna and Michael Jackson in the early nineties for any song they had a credit on (and they played Madonna and Michael Jackson on a loop pretty much back then).

It felt a bit immoral to me, tbh. I don't begrudge anyone being paid for their work, but when it's publicly funded and being so channelled to a select number of parties, it made me very uncomfortable.

It's also why Beyonce insists on changing a word in any song she performs (so she can claim a song-writing credit).

Dixiechickonhols · 28/03/2022 12:40

Hallucinating Yes definitely! His dad was a musician so obviously contacts too. Tone of interview was ‘where did it all go wrong’ and he was like err I’m sat looking at ocean in my studio in LA I’m very lucky.
Another similar interview that stuck with me was with a 80s pop star who’d had a big hit and again he was honest and said I’m in a beautiful place speaking to you looking at ocean (he was abroad on a 80s legends tour) gist was I can’t believe I’ve managed to milk it so long either.

JennySpanner · 28/03/2022 12:49

He will be incredibly wealthy as he will get royalties from songs he's written and performed in. People who had a bit part in soaps get royalty cheques for years afterwards etc so a member of a hugely successful boy and is of course going to be very rich!

ChristinePerfect · 28/03/2022 12:55

I read Sammy Hagar's (lead singer of Van Halen) autobiography. He'd made some very shrewd financial decisions, bought property but then also invested in a fire sprinkler business which became very successful. Then he'd seen there was money to be made in an up-and-coming holiday resort, I think it was Mexico, before it really took off as a holiday destination, so invested in that and made a packet.
The big one was setting up a tequila brand, sold it for something like $80 million.
He said a lot of his peers at the time were just drinking and snorting their money away.

Funkyslippers · 28/03/2022 13:07

Yellownightmare how was Matt Willis able to pay off his mortgage thanks to Jonas Brothers when he didn't even write the song?

Fizbosshoes · 28/03/2022 13:09

I'm pretty sure Craig from Bros is a successful music producer, despite not being in the public eye for a long time

Rubyupbeat · 28/03/2022 13:11

Do people like Katie price get paid by tv companies? I ask this, as she is supposedly bankrupt, but is renovating her old home, that surely would have been seized by the bank?
I really don't understand how all this works?

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