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Aibu to think if the worst happened and your child died in mysterious circumstances you should have a right to know what happened.

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Turningpurple · 26/03/2022 19:11

Just as the title says.

Noah Donohoe disappeared coming home from school, his body was found in a storm drain without his clothes.

His mother can not get answers on why the police decided, immediately that there was no four play and us being blocked from seeing 4 files by the police.

She says On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved.I ask, if the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved, why are the police now trying to stop me, as Noah’s mummy, getting four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

Surely I am not unreasonable to think this isn't ok and that most of use would want to know what had happened to our child?

This is an overview of what has happened so far.

mobile.twitter.com/MarymoBelfast/status/1370453351616425985?s=20&t=yryUQok3nQ619uJUawvnjg

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Turningpurple · 01/04/2022 13:59

@Somatronic

I think for people unfamiliar with the north of Ireland and the PSNI, people's concerns about someone harming Noah may seem far fetched.

I watched a documentary about the murder of Arlene Arkinson the other night, a 15 year old girl who was killed in 1994. In that case a PII cert was used to withhold evidence, and the family believe that this is because the murderer Robert Howard was a police informant. Either way, the investigation was an absolute mess which allowed Howard to go to England and murder another young girl, Hannah Williams.

I think this is very true.

Its just awful that this happens.

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TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 14:05

Lovely, smiley Noah.

Aibu to think if the worst happened and your child died in mysterious circumstances you should have a right to know what happened.
EmeraldShamrock1 · 01/04/2022 14:10

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EmeraldShamrock1 · 01/04/2022 14:13

You couldn't make it up.
Beautiful wee Noah 💙

ZoeCM · 01/04/2022 15:35

@SweetPetrichor

I vote YABU simply because nothing can be gained. No matter how tragic a loss it may be, nothing will change. Honestly, everyone on this thread who is fretting over it is effectively using it for their Saturday night entertainment and that’s it. Hmm
Are you serious? You can't see what will be gained from Noah's family learning the truth about how he died instead of being left to wonder forever?
Ownedbymycats · 01/04/2022 16:43

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LifeInAHamsterWheel · 01/04/2022 16:45

Beyond torture. If this is what is in disclosure, makes you wonder what os in the four files they are trying to prevent seeing the light of day

If this is what is in disclosure, how can the PSNI possibly say there was no foul play???

I feel sick when I think of this, I just don't know how I'd function if I was hearing about one of my own children. It's just too much. Poor poor Fiona Sad She's right though, surely to God one of the people who heard those screams will say enough is enough and come forward with the truth. How could you live with yourself, when strangers who have absolutely no involvment are struggling with it?

EmeraldShamrock1 · 01/04/2022 16:54

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Ownedbymycats · 01/04/2022 16:59

"Message withdrawn"
Prior to an inquest can anyone be sure of this. It's perfectly reasonable to question why the police are withholding information but I think posters need to be careful.

DamnUserName21 · 01/04/2022 17:04

Nearly every mother's worst fear.

Yes, the police should be upfront but doesn't it go to inquest for cause?

DamnUserName21 · 01/04/2022 17:10

^^ignore my previous. Just read up. Petition signed.

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 01/04/2022 18:10

Would love to know why my post last night was deleted? I just said how sad and distressing those tweets were. Very strange Confused

Turningpurple · 01/04/2022 18:13

@HeyGirlHeyBoy

Would love to know why my post last night was deleted? I just said how sad and distressing those tweets were. Very strange Confused
Thata very strange. @mnhq might provide some light if you email.

There's definitely some posters working hard to have this deleted. Even admitting it on the thread.

I am not sure why though.

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HeyGirlHeyBoy · 01/04/2022 18:15

I have never had a post deleted, to my knowledge. It is definitely strange. As I remember I said it was heartbreaking and RIP Beautiful Noah. Devastating. Thank you turningpurple for tagging admin. Not a priority in the least but odd alongside the other things spotted.

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:18

I also wondered that @HeyGirlHeyBoy - if you email MNHQ they should be able to clarify things for you.

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:20

x post with @Turningpurple

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:23

I am not sure why though
For the same reason some people and organisations want Fiona to accept what she has been told and go away and grieve quietly @Turningpurple

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:24

@DamnUserName21

^^ignore my previous. Just read up. Petition signed.
Thank you @DamnUserName21
TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:34

Please can we keep away from any discussion about 'sides' @EmeraldShamrock1 and @Ownedbymycats - it would be a shame to see posts deleted and it is essential that the thread doesn't get derailed or deleted. Every decent person - and I include you both in that - on this thread or who knows about Noah is united in seeking justice for him and the truth for Fiona. Let's keep the focus on that. Thank you. Flowers

EmeraldShamrock1 · 01/04/2022 18:38

I have requested HQ to delete my post.

I apologise for bouncing in feet first.

Ownedbymycats · 01/04/2022 18:43

"Please can we keep away from any discussion about 'sides' @EmeraldShamrock1 and @Ownedbymycats"
And that's exactly what I was doing, highlighting that sides should not be taken and sectarian accusations not made. Does that really mean I'm taking a side.
I think everyone posting on this thread should proceed with caution but I will always call out references to other sides etc
This poor child died in tragic circumstances and a poster states there are sectarian reasons for that.No inquest has taken place so how would that be known.

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:44

I think we all can tell that your heart is in the right place @EmeraldShamrock1 in wanting to help Fiona. Flowers

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 18:47

I understood where you were coming from @Ownedbymycats and just wanted to tag in both posters who were discussing that issue so that we could hopefully draw a line under it quickly. Flowers.

TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 19:11

Nearly every mother's worst fear.

Beyond torture. If this is what is in disclosure, makes you wonder what is in the four files they are trying to prevent seeing the light of day

If this is what is in disclosure, how can the PSNI possibly say there was no foul play??? I feel sick when I think of this, I just don't know how I'd function if I was hearing about one of my own children. It's just too much. Poor poor Fiona. She's right though, surely to God one of the people who heard those screams will say enough is enough and come forward with the truth. How could you live with yourself, when strangers who have absolutely no involvement are struggling with it?

I agree with the pps above. I just couldn't even find the words to respond to Fiona's latest harrowing, heart-rending tweets and so I will post this photo of Noah so that we can all remember him as he was and how he should still be. Let's keep fighting for him and for his mummy.

Aibu to think if the worst happened and your child died in mysterious circumstances you should have a right to know what happened.
TheRealMrsMac · 01/04/2022 20:48

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